Tucking....Permenantly?

[faux-suzi (imported)]

I am looking for advice, feedback and experiences involving tucking and a possible more permenant solution.

I have been able to pushed my balls back up inside with my fingers for a long time. It doesn't hurt at all and actually I enjoy the feeling of the empty scrotum and internal testies. Almost like pseudo ovaries. But I have to hold my balls inside with my fingers holding the opening blacked or the balls drop back out. My small size, both cock, balls, and scrotum, probably helps this beginning fetish.

Do you any of you do this? Is it pleasurable to you? Do you like the look of an empty scrotum?

A while ago while slipping on a tight cock ring my balls slipped inside and the ring held my balls there leaving an empty scrotum. I really liked this look and experimented with a couple other ideas for holding my balls and/or cock inside, hands free.

I've tried rubber bands, dowels and first aid tape. I poked my cock and balls as far inside as I could and while holding them with my fingers, pulled my scrotum up as far as i can, remove my fingers holding my bits inside and have a reletively smooth front being held by my hand pulling up on my scrotum. Now to hold it there. First aid tape? Liquid bandage (forms a removable flexible coating that also semi glues skin)? It would help to have a couple extra hands.

For those who do hold your balls inside, how do you keep them there? With out tight panties so you can be viewed by your betters or made to display, nude, your pseudo nullo state?

I've considered having a stitch or two internally closing the opening after my balls have been pushed all the way inside. Yes, a much more permanent solution and surgery too. It might be easier to find someone to do this for me than finding a "cutter". I think I would still produce testosterone keeping my libido up and still being able to cum. So it could be a half way to full castration with some of the benefits and with out some of the drawbacks.

Please advise me with your comments and any questions you may have? Thank you for reading my post.

[Leona Lee (imported)]

;)If you keep testi's inside it could cause cancer. Undesended testi's are a cause of great concern for young males. Blessings, Leona:)

[bobbie (imported)]

I am looking for advice, feedback and experiences involving tucking and a possible more permenant solution.

I have been able to pushed my balls back up inside with my fingers for a long time. It doesn't hurt at all and actually I enjoy the feeling of the empty scrotum and internal testies. Almost like pseudo ovaries. But I have to hold my balls inside with my fingers holding the opening blacked or the balls drop back out. My small size, both cock, balls, and scrotum, probably helps this beginning fetish.

Do you any of you do this? Is it pleasurable to you? Do you like the look of an empty scrotum?

A while ago while slipping on a tight cock ring my balls slipped inside and the ring held my balls there leaving an empty scrotum. I really liked this look and experimented with a couple other ideas for holding my balls and/or cock inside, hands free.

I've tried rubber bands, dowels and first aid tape. I poked my cock and balls as far inside as I could and while holding them with my fingers, pulled my scrotum up as far as i can, remove my fingers holding my bits inside and have a reletively smooth front being held by my hand pulling up on my scrotum. Now to hold it there. First aid tape? Liquid bandage (forms a removable flexible coating that also semi glues skin)? It would help to have a couple extra hands.

For those who do hold your balls inside, how do you keep them there? With out tight panties so you can be viewed by your betters or made to display, nude, your pseudo nullo state?

I've considered having a stitch or two internally closing the opening after my balls have been pushed all the way inside. Yes, a much more permanent solution and surgery too. It might be easier to find someone to do this for me than finding a "cutter". I think I would still produce testosterone keeping my libido up and still being able to cum. So it could be a half way to full castration with some of the benefits and with out some of the drawbacks.

Please advise me with your comments and any questions you may have? Thank you for reading my post.

There is a SRS surgeon that does anchor the testicles in the groin. He will did all the normal surgical removal partial penis. Reconstructed the remain penis scrotum and all the rest to make the person have all the appearance of a female while still having the testicles and male hormones.

In a normal boy his testicle's are in the groin till shortly before birth. Once the testicle's are in the sack the opening in the groin reduces. The opening is enough for the blood vessels, Vas Deferen, suspension ligament to the balls. The common type of hernia in males is the inguinal type. That is when the the guts enter through the hole for the cords in to the scrotum. To repair this hernia the doctor will reduce the hole for the cords such that it will be too small for the hernia to return. There is often other things done to prevent the recurrence.

Pushing the testicles back into the groin will enlarge the same hole the hernia came through. Larger the hole is the greater chance of getting this hernia. While it may be fun and look great there is a risk in doing so.

Sorry to be a downer on this.

[nonuts (imported)]

;)If you keep testi's inside it could cause cancer. Undesended testi's are a cause of great concern for young males. Blessings, Leona:)

Leona, your concern is commendable, and just so appreciated. The reality though is there is no evidence this would have any "causative" effective on developing cancer. Undescended Testis and cancer have a very well linked connection, however it is likely the relationship of the undescended testis is more likely the reason for the higher incidence of cancer in these young men. Since they don't descend properly hormones are affected, and the testis is never kept at the temperature it is supposed to be, most often these males are also sterile, since sperm production is compromised when the testis are kept at higher temps.

A genuine concern here would be that a man would not be able to detect a cancer that did develop if the testis are embedded internally. When they are in the scrotum, they can be felt, and all the surfaces easily examined by both the guy himself and his doctor. And since survivability of ANY cancer is much improved my early detection, this would be the main concern of tucking them away inside of the body cavity. Early detected testicular cancer is in fact one of the most survivable cancers...(yeah the nut is lost) but that seems a small price to pay for a healthy life.

[kristoff]

Given F-S's stated age, I would suspect testicular cancer would be a much less likely possibility, given that testicular cancer strikes mostly (not exclusively) younger men - generally teens and twenties (although I have a friend who lost both testes to cancer two years ago at age 35). I would still take heed of warnings about inability to examine them.

[nullorchis (imported)]

faux-suzi, basically to answer your questions: YES.

I would enjoy it immensely if my testes would remain up and inside and not hang down in the scrotum. But, it's the way nature made us. For some unknown reason, for sperm to develop in the testes they must be at a cooler temperature than body temperature. Were that not the case we men would possibly all have undescended testes. But, if the outside temperature gets too cold the scrotum will shrink tight and push the testes back up into a safe inside location so that they don't get too cold, which could also kill the sperm. What WE want and what NATURE wants is often not in alignment. Then again, perhaps "Mother" nature just wanted them to hang down and be sensitive to pain and vulnerable as a way for men to suffer now and then.

Bicycle inner tubes. I found that by cutting out approx 1 inch of bicycle inner tube I could place this around my penis and scrotum and it would hold the testes up and inside while not cutting off the blood supply to the penis or scrotum. There are different sizes of bicycle inner tubes and you have to experiment with different sizes until you find the one size that works for you; too big and things fall back down, too small and it hurts and the blood supply is cut off. Try different widths 3/4 inch, 1 1/4 inch, etc.

[hkeunuch (imported)]

I have been tucking both my testes and penis inside my body almost 24/7 for the past several years. I used very tight underwears, those without a pouch.

The only times I took them out are for peeing, cleaning, and the rare chance of a sexual encounter.

I actually started playing with tucking ever since the time I was going through puberty, rolling my BVD's into tight g-strings and keeping my penis tucked. But often, the hard-ons would be too painful to stay inside.

Ever since I have been chemically castrated, I don't have morning woods to bother with, so I could stay tucked and sleep soundly now.

I did not have much luck with surgical tapes as they tend to cause painful blisters along the edge of the tapes near the soft skins in between my legs.

Years ago, I had found a sexy, tiny little swimwear through mail order, which has fabric about the size of a quarter, just enough to keep my completely tucked genitals inside. I wore that to a gay beach a few times, freaking out more than a few gawkers.

[SplitDik (imported)]

I think it might be possible to make this semi-permanent with well-placed piercings. Of course scrotal piercings are tough to keep from infecting, but theoretically it is possible.

[Conscientious (imported)]

When I first transitioned as a transsexual, one day it was very cold and I wore a pair of thick stockings and tight underwear. I had tucked everything back and didn't know about the inguinal cavities at that stage. After many hours I noticed that my testicles had shrunk drastically. Having taken t blockers and tucking for many years they become very small permanently. But if you didn't have access to blockers wearing tights and tight underwear for a period everyday could decrease sperm and testosterone production. It would be much cheaper and would avoid the damage to your health that blockers can cause.

It wouldn't become permanent for years but there is an almost 100% chance you would soon become infertile. The area feels very soft, warm and moist from perspiration afterwards. Other than that some tg people do this for much of their lives so it is safe. Putting your testicles inside your body would not have the same effect as they act as a shield. Choose the right fabric though as chaffing can occur which is unpleasant. Something soft yet strong with a slight stretch to it would be perfect. Then wear tights over the top. You can even make your own as I do.

[Hash (imported)]

If you are a pre-op Transsexual, tucking might not be the best permanent option. Why not seek out an SRS surgeon and have your testicles removed? Then tucking would be extremely easy because your penis will shrink considerably and you won't need the chemical castration drugs. I have read that undescended testicles are more likely to become cancerous.

QUOTE: "Undescended testicles are at increased risk for cancer. Testicular cancer may not occur until after age 40 years. Testicular carcinoma is highly curable, when detected early, and the best way to do this is monthly self-examination, which can only be done if the testicles are within the scrotum."

http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa067588

[kellyslarkin (imported)]

If you are a pre-op Transsexual, tucking might not be the best permanent option. Why not seek out an SRS surgeon and have your testicles removed? Then tucking would be extremely easy because your penis will shrink considerably and you won't need the chemical castration drugs. I have read that undescended testicles are more likely to become cancerous.

Hash, seriously, why do you give everyone this advice. Got a problem with your sexuality or genitals the way they are? Cut off your balls, it will make it all better.

The original poster did NOT mention anything about transsexuality, did NOT mention anything about castration, still wants to be able to produce testosterone and still wants to be able to cum.

None of these things indicate castration is a good idea.

There is, of course, the associated risk of cancer, but there is no information on causality... i.e. nobody knows if pushing your testicles inside is safe, because there have never been any studies done on this obscure behavior. The one thing that is apparent is that tucking them inside permanently makes them impossible to inspect for signs of cancer. Recent studies indicate that cancer risk is mostly influenced by age at which testicles are descended in relation to puberty. While there is no way to predict any particular outcome from that, it is useful to know.

^ Pettersson, Andreas; Lorenzo Richiardi, Agneta Nordenskjold, Magnus Kaijser, and Olof Akre (May 3, 2007). "Age at Surgery for Undescended Testis and Risk of Testicular Cancer". NEJM 356 (18): 1835-41. doi:10.1056/NEJMoa067588. PMID 17476009.

My advice to FauxSuzi is to keep doing whatever you want, but don't do anything permanently. Tape is fine, but use sports tape that will stick to skin, and change it every day. Glue and superglue are not good options, the glue will break and peel off sensitive skin. Liquid bandage will perform slightly better than glue, but still lacks sufficient tensile strength to hold together over multiple hours, especially with parts that are moving because of walking.

If you are indeed trans-sexual and this is why you wish to hide your testicles, look into a gaff.

The disadvantage of being unable to check your testicles for cancer is rather huge, and I would not recommend tucking permanently to anyone. I've considered it, and also abandoned it as a risky idea.

[Conscientious (imported)]

I think Hash might have been refering to me. And my post was generally about tucking for anyone interested not really directed at the OP.

I think that a simple hair tie at the base of the scrotum would be about the easiest way to hold them up there while hanging free and nude.

[Hash (imported)]

Sorry kelly, I was referring to Conscientious, I should have made that clear.

[hkeunuch (imported)]

Since I have been tucking my balls and penis in 24/7 for several years now (except to pee and wash), I now found that by balls (or rather the spermatic chords) become painful if I don't tuck the balls in for any extended period of time (like a couple of hours). Similarly, the skin on my glans and even the shaft skin feels painfully stretched if by chance I got a rare erection - no matter how weak.

Does other people have the same experience?

[loveableleopardy (imported)]

"That's one tuck....and one no tuck."

[hkeunuch (imported)]

Sorry. You lost me there. But my conclusion from my own experience is that it is better to stay permanently tucked.

[loveableleopardy (imported)]

Sorry hkeunuch, I was referring to a quote from the tv show Seinfeld.

I'm not sure that I understand the subject of this thread myself. You mean to hold your balls up (tuck?) instead of naturally hanging down/low? I always just have mine hanging, though I've never been a boxers man, so might have a lower than normal sperm count.

[hkeunuch (imported)]

Thanks, Greg for the clarifications. Sitting out here in Thailand, we are quite behind on nice TV series like Seinfeld.

Well, by tucking, I mean pushing the balls back into the body, up the inguinal canals where they originally come from. For penis, I mean pushing the cock completely back into the body.

[loveableleopardy (imported)]

Thanks for some explanation.

So for tucking of the balls, do you still retain your same testosterone levels? I'm guessing that this is solely a decision or desire based on body image rather than actual lifestyle.

[hkeunuch (imported)]

Yes, tucking of the testicles do nothing noticeable to testosterone levels.

I reduced my testosterone via Androcur.

I started with tucking of penis since I was about 12. Just found it fun and loved the pressure on the penis. At first, I couldn't stand the pain when it got hard. Over the years, I began to like that too. But at night, they could still wake me up.

Now that I had been chemically castrated, it very rarely gets hard, certainly never being woken up by them ever again.

I learned about tucking the testicles much later after learning about it on the Internet. I also just love the feeling of pressure on them.