Hijra Where are they?

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Hijra Where are they?

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Well I know they are in India and there are a lot of them.

Why does it seem impossible to get any pictures of them naked.

As they would not be exposing their genitals then it would not be inappropriate or offensive. But I just cant find any photos of them.

I would love to see this and I hope that others here can help.

It is said that they frequently flash their groin area to passers by, have none of these passers by have cameras? LOL

How can we even really beleive that they exist with no genitals if there is so little photographic proof? I wonder if most jsut aren't crossdressers using it as an excuse, hehe. Sorry I don't mean that. It was just a joke.😄

So come on folk, lets see what we can come up with. A Hijra blog site where they could all post naked pics of themselves would be a dream.

The nearest is this site http://www.blogcatalog.com/blog/hijda-eunuch-blog but it's pretty lame considering.

Yes I have tried googling with some Hindi translated words but that was futile, just doesn't seem to work well. What it probably need is an Indian with the language skills and internet to delve in to the subject.
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I saw a documentary on them years ago on television and the person showed what had been done and it was completely smooth with only a small hole for urinating. The person being interviewed did not seem shy about showing what had been done.
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You are right though. I have seen many pictures of them clothed, but none of them naked or exposed.

😄 Maybe they are all shy?
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I hear if you go to India, they'll get naked for enough money. Read this in a few sites.
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I have seen quiet a few pictures of exposed Hijra on line but the links disappear quickly. --FLO--
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Rather harsh if accurate criticism removed. Nail the issue not the person, please.

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Why not just make out a check list in order to view ALL kinds of crotches of the various types of men, women, and hijdas? And then you can say that you have seen them all!

Xx,xx

Xx,x

XxNorm

XOnly

XxPIV

XxFrm

Xx,xyF

Xx,xyM

Xx,yF

Xx,yM

Xx,yy

XxEtc.

XyEtc.

XxMosaic

XyMosaic

XxGID

XyGID

XxTrans

XyTrans

XxCrD

XyCrD

XxKall

XyKall

XxCAH

XyCAH

XxPGD

XyPGD

XyCAIS

XyPAIS

XyMais

Xy5ARD

XyPMD

XyNorm

Xy,y

Xy,yy

And if you have viewed the crotches of these people I could think of a few others to include in this list too, believe it or not.
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According to the goverment of India there are 1,000,000 eunuchs in India

( there are some more in Pakistan). Some have been made eunuch against their will some others by choice, many are prostitutes or beggars, I guess it'd be easy to find them. I've seen a few on You Tube.
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I have also seen the youtube videos and a lot of still pictures of Hijra dancing, but I've only ever seen one nude, and that was very covered up.

I just wonder if it is cultural thing to not be photographed nude?
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I would imagine we'd see more hijra photos if more of the hijras themselves had access to cameras and to the internet. Unfortunately the vast majority of them are among the most underprivileged people in India and Pakistan -- which is saying something, as both countries have substantial populations living in what for Westerners is frankly unimaginable poverty.

Another issue is that not all hijras (or other members of the third-caste gender in South Asia, see below) are eunuchs. Some were born with some degree of genital ambiguity, and might or might not be considered by Western medicine to have an intersex condition. Some have been castrated using traditional methods (i.e. not in a hospital or by a surgeon) which vary from region to region. Some are (as-yet) unmodified males living the hijra lifestyle -- and that's not a dig at the so-called 'homosexual lifestyle', in India hijras really do have a whole separate culture where they separate from their birth families and all other original social ties and live and work with other hijras in a subculture within but not quite of the surrounding community -- because they are what Westerners would consider transvestites or homosexuals and living as hijra is the outlet their culture offers. Still other hijras who were born male have become aware that more sophisticated surgical options are available and are trying to save up for SRS via a trip to Thailand. So even if you found a dozen photos, none of them would really be representative, since what hijras look like under their saris varies so much.

When searching, have you tried using different terms used in other parts of India? There are dozens of languages spoken in India besides Hindi, and among the ones spoken as majority languages in different regions are Gujarati, Punjabi, Tamil and Urdu; each one typically has at least one term equivalent to hijra. (Pradesh is one term meaning roughly 'state' or 'province' but if you look at a map of India you'll notice that only some of the political divisions are labeled 'pradesh' due to regional language differences.)

Wikipedia's hijra article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)) lists some of the alternate transliterations for "hijra" along with some of the other regional terms, and includes the appropriate native South-Asian script spellings of some of the terms as well, which you can C&P into Google if you have South Asian font support on your computer. (I know there are free fonts available that will display all of the major SA languages for Windows XP and later; the same is probably true of Linux and Mac but don't hold me to that.) Another issue, however, is that even if someone in India or Pakistan has access to a camera and an internet connection, they may face serious legal consequences if they go puting photos of their own or others' genitals (or lack thereof) online.

I hope this helps, and please don't take my comment as discouraging... I'd be curious to see photos of some of India's "third gender" people that show more than I've seen thus far, myself. I do hope the individuals being photographed would be appropriately compensated, though. Really, it's a shame that no one has thought of making it a business venture: there are plenty of hijras/pavaiyaa/aravani/etc. who can certainly use the money, and plenty of people like us elsewhere who can afford to pay a modest fee to view photos of what they look like 'down there' to the ones who are willing to show themselves other than in face-to-face encounters.
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castr8fun (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:12 am Well I know they are in India and there are a lot of them.

Why does it seem impossible to get any pictures of them naked.

As they would not be exposing their genitals then it would not be inappropriate or offensive. But I just cant find any photos of them.

I would love to see this and I hope that others here can help.

I have a photo of a naked boy in a book from the eighties that facinates me.

Milton Diamond, Sex Watching - Looking into the world of sexual behaviour, Guild Publishing London - Multimedia Publications (UK) Ltd, 1986, p.42:

A 15-year old Indian boy after castration and penis removal (right (p. 43)) wearing women's clothes. He is alleged to have been kidnapped and castrated by members of the eunuch community pictured below.

The photo of the naked smooth boy is in chapter 2: Whatever turns you on - Hormones as arousers.

I 'allways' wondered how it would be to have my balls and penis removed before my puberty. The photo of this handsome boy shows my secret wish, how I have wished to be, but I don't like the idea the boy was castrated against his will.
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Are any of the pictures available online?
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Of coarse Charrett! Just enter "eunuch" or hijra" in a search engine and you'll find thousands of pics and videos, I've seen few naked too.
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Peter47-NL (imported) wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:27 am I have a photo of a naked boy in a book from the eighties that facinates me.

Milton Diamond, Sex Watching - Looking into the world of sexual behaviour, Guild Publishing London - Multimedia Publications (UK) Ltd, 1986, p.42:

A 15-year old Indian boy after castration and penis removal (right (p. 43)) wearing women's clothes. He is alleged to have been kidnapped and castrated by members of the eunuch community pictured below.

I posted, last month, a brief note giving some of the back story to the two photos of the 15 year-old eunuch in Mickey Diamond's book. They are at

http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=17134

See post #7
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I saw the picture. Wow, they really did a thurough job for such crude methods. Still looking online, but there is almost nothing that is not fully clothed.

I'll keep at it.
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Charrett wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:09 pm I saw the picture. Wow, they really did a thurough job for such crude methods. Still looking online, but there is almost nothing that is not fully clothed.

I'll keep at it.

Most of the good photos are now hosted on pay sites:(
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_g (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:12 am Most of the good photos are now hosted on pay sites:(

Can you point me to a good pay site?
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Charrett wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:25 am Can you point me to a good pay site?

Unluckily not, as I can't search for those kind of sites, with out risk of being fired (at work) or at home having wife find out which would be much worst than being canned!
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