The prostate and you
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Erotica698 (imported)
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The prostate and you
Hello! This is my first thread and it's a bit probing. I am very interested in castration and complete nullification for myself and for others. I apologize if this comes off as blunt but I am just gathering information and looking for answers.
I was discussing castration with some people and the question about the prostate came up. I have read previous that even with the complete removal of the testicles and the penis some pleasure can just be found from prostate massage. Either through anal sex or fingers or a vibrator of however else. Is that true? Does anyone have any experience? Obviously orgasm wouldn't happen but it would be a pleasant sensation?
If so what happens to the build up of fluids in the prostate?
"The function of the prostate is to store and secrete a slightly alkaline (pH 7.29) fluid, milky or white in appearance,[5] that usually constitutes 25-30% of the volume of the semen along with spermatozoa and seminal vesicle fluid. ... The prostatic fluid is expelled in the first ejaculate fractions together with most of the spermatozoa."
Thank you to anyone who answers my questions.
I was discussing castration with some people and the question about the prostate came up. I have read previous that even with the complete removal of the testicles and the penis some pleasure can just be found from prostate massage. Either through anal sex or fingers or a vibrator of however else. Is that true? Does anyone have any experience? Obviously orgasm wouldn't happen but it would be a pleasant sensation?
If so what happens to the build up of fluids in the prostate?
"The function of the prostate is to store and secrete a slightly alkaline (pH 7.29) fluid, milky or white in appearance,[5] that usually constitutes 25-30% of the volume of the semen along with spermatozoa and seminal vesicle fluid. ... The prostatic fluid is expelled in the first ejaculate fractions together with most of the spermatozoa."
Thank you to anyone who answers my questions.
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Riverwind (imported)
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Re: The prostate and you
I know that the prostate will usually shrink after castration because of the lack of Testosterone, but as for your question I am the wrong person to answer that.
We are here to answer your questions as someone will most likely have an answer for you.
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We are here to answer your questions as someone will most likely have an answer for you.
Welcome to the zoo,
River
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Johnmil (imported)
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Re: The prostate and you
Prostate stimulation is very satisfying and easy to learn.
Not as good as normal orgasm but it could be a "substitute".
I think the question would be how often would a eunuch
require or desire a prostate massage. We would need
them to comment.
Not as good as normal orgasm but it could be a "substitute".
I think the question would be how often would a eunuch
require or desire a prostate massage. We would need
them to comment.
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sailorboy (imported)
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Re: The prostate and you
Hello,
I am not a eunuch, but have an enlarged prostate, since I am a male over 50 years of age. Now, at 65 y/o, my prostate, still enlarged but not malignant, is small, according to the Urologist, and I seldom have any ejaculations. What may be happening is a retrograde ejaculation where the semen goes into my bladder rather than out my penis. But, I've tried to stimulate the prostate and still can't have an orgasm. My prostate seems to be "non-sexual" now since it doesn't feel good when touched.
I hope you can find the answers you are seeking.
I am not a eunuch, but have an enlarged prostate, since I am a male over 50 years of age. Now, at 65 y/o, my prostate, still enlarged but not malignant, is small, according to the Urologist, and I seldom have any ejaculations. What may be happening is a retrograde ejaculation where the semen goes into my bladder rather than out my penis. But, I've tried to stimulate the prostate and still can't have an orgasm. My prostate seems to be "non-sexual" now since it doesn't feel good when touched.
I hope you can find the answers you are seeking.
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saywhat (imported)
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I have never been able to achieve orgasm through prostate massage. I get almost there..... but no luck. So I wouldn't rely solely on that!
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Francis (imported)
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I think your best option is to have a close look at the anatomy of the area and the functions of the testicles.
In fact the prostate generates the bulk of the seminal fluid (the milky component) while testicles generate the spermatic fluid which is clear and much less in volume than the prostate contribution. These products are combined and stored in the seminal vesicles adjacent ot the prostate. This system is not damaged by castration per se except that the contibution of spermatic fluid is removed.
The seminal vesicles will still function and produce ejaculation of whatever fluid is in them. This may be affected by the bodily changes that occur with the removal of the testicles which may cause some atrophy of the prostate due to low testosterone levels but is more likely to be affected by lowered libido caused by the lack of T.
So my answer is that:
1. If you maintain your T levels through HRT after castration you are likely to maintain your ejaculation capacity and;
2. If you do not, the lack of libido will result in the prostate and vesicles not being exercised, in which case they may well atrophy and cease to function also.
This is not based on great experience apart from the fact that at my stage in life I have no prostate and essentially non functional atrophied balls. Interestingly enough, I have retained a somewhat embarrassing ejaculatory capacity called climacturia which means that a quantity of urine is ejected from the bladder in place of the semen from the removed seminal vesicles, sometimes violently and in some quantity.
As a consolation prize, in most cases, if you retain sufficient libido, a climax, albeit a dry one, is always possible, indicating that the climax function is all controlled by the brain at the end of the day.
In fact the prostate generates the bulk of the seminal fluid (the milky component) while testicles generate the spermatic fluid which is clear and much less in volume than the prostate contribution. These products are combined and stored in the seminal vesicles adjacent ot the prostate. This system is not damaged by castration per se except that the contibution of spermatic fluid is removed.
The seminal vesicles will still function and produce ejaculation of whatever fluid is in them. This may be affected by the bodily changes that occur with the removal of the testicles which may cause some atrophy of the prostate due to low testosterone levels but is more likely to be affected by lowered libido caused by the lack of T.
So my answer is that:
1. If you maintain your T levels through HRT after castration you are likely to maintain your ejaculation capacity and;
2. If you do not, the lack of libido will result in the prostate and vesicles not being exercised, in which case they may well atrophy and cease to function also.
This is not based on great experience apart from the fact that at my stage in life I have no prostate and essentially non functional atrophied balls. Interestingly enough, I have retained a somewhat embarrassing ejaculatory capacity called climacturia which means that a quantity of urine is ejected from the bladder in place of the semen from the removed seminal vesicles, sometimes violently and in some quantity.
As a consolation prize, in most cases, if you retain sufficient libido, a climax, albeit a dry one, is always possible, indicating that the climax function is all controlled by the brain at the end of the day.
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The prostate shrinks in size and so soes the seminal vessels when one is castrated. When castrated unless on Male Hormones, it will not produce the body bluids used with seaman in the ejaculate when cumming. You may feel stimulation from an anal probe since the prostate is connected to the bladder and urethra you may experience some fluid discharges after stinmulation, but not much. Prostate and Testicles make up the fluids for seaman,even after my vasectomy I can cum in big loads of I don't beat off for a few days, white milky loads. When I get cut, it will just be white kind of fluid cumming out.
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saywhat (imported)
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Francis (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:53 pm So my answer is that:
1. If you maintain your T levels through HRT after castration you are likely to maintain your ejaculation capacity and;
This is true.
2. If you do not, the lack of libido will result in the prostate and vesicles not being exercised, in which case they may well atrophy and cease to function also.
Lack of T is the most likely reason for atrophy, although lowered libido will have a small contribution.
Men who do not ejaculate for long periods of time (not due to low T) have been known to have prostates that are on the small side of normal, but not complete atrophy
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Erotica698 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:42 pm Hello! This is my first thread and it's a bit probing. I am very interested in castration and complete nullification for myself and for others. I apologize if this comes off as blunt but I am just gathering information and looking for answers.
I was discussing castration with some people and the question about the prostate came up. I have read previous that even with the complete removal of the testicles and the penis some pleasure can just be found from prostate massage. Either through anal sex or fingers or a vibrator of however else. Is that true? Does anyone have any experience? Obviously orgasm wouldn't happen but it would be a pleasant sensation?
If so what happens to the build up of fluids in the prostate?
"The function of the prostate is to store and secrete a slightly alkaline (pH 7.29) fluid, milky or white in appearance,[5] that usually constitutes 25-30% of the volume of the semen along with spermatozoa and seminal vesicle fluid. ... The prostatic fluid is expelled in the first ejaculate fractions together with most of the spermatozoa."
Thank you to anyone who answers my questions.
Removeing you balls only stops the "baby makes" cum still tastes the same but "low Cal"
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During my last physical exam, but female doc, even though she knows I'm castrated decided to do a prostate exam. It's standard policy for a man of my age. She had a hard time finding it and stated that it's "little." Not small, little, I found that amusing. She said it's from being castrated, I said, "Yeah, I know." Then, out of curiosity I think, she asked about my ability to achieve (her word) an erection. I told her sometimes I wake up with a weak erection. That was the extent of the conversation. She was the doctor who said, "I tend to agree with you," when I told her that the world would be a lot safer if more men were castrated. I wish she would open up more and talk to me about what it's like being a eunuch. I know she's curious, but is afraid to talk with me about it.
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I have read this post with great interest and as such I have learned a great deal. Since I am newly castrated these posting have explained why there is no ejaculate when I masterbate. My last prostate exam before the Orchiectomy I was told that the prostate was small I wonder if this is due to having taken high dosages of Spiro for an extended period. post castration orgasms are Much more intense for me. I thank you for such interesting posts
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Had not thought about the prostate much, except for it getting enlarged and causing urinary problems, or getting cancer in it. But giving it a little thought it would be great to have the prostate removed as an elective procedure, kind of like getting the tonsils removed. As a castrate candidate I have no need for a prostate and the problems it can cause only elevates the reasons to have it removed. Having it removed is no longer as traumatic as it use to be. They use robotic equipment to microscopically remove it. Only minor incisions are made and healing is very quick. One of the purposes of microscopic surgery is to reduce the risk of cutting nerves that operate erectile function.
If one wanted to be castrated, but maintain erectile function, and be minus a prostate, a combination of TRT, prostate microsurgery, and castration would make it all maybe possible.
If one wanted to be castrated, but maintain erectile function, and be minus a prostate, a combination of TRT, prostate microsurgery, and castration would make it all maybe possible.
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saywhat (imported)
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Even with the use of robotic surgical equipment, the risks of severing the nerves that control erection is serious. Taking the prostate out needlessly is way too risky of a deal. With little to no T your chances of getting prostate cancer are minimal. One treatment for prostate cancer is castration. I think you are in the clear for now.
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ned123 (imported)
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I am have had a bit of experience in this area. I had prostate cancer, and had a radical prostitectomy (robotic) done a bit over a year ago. I will get into that in a min. Indeed the prostate can be "milked" I recall having this done years back by a urologist. It was a very strange sensation and all of a sudden a small amount of fluid came out and onto a slide that he wanted to study. Could this be done in a non-medicial way? I am sure it could.
Now back to my prostate removal. I had an aggressive form of PC so they where not able to do the nerve sparing method, for fear that the cancer cells may have invaded that tissue. What this means is I am now completely limp all the time. I have had some shrinkage and when mentally aroused there is absolutely not even a twitch down there. A very interesting experience. But the nerves that allow for orgasm are in a different area and intact. Thus I can stimulate to orgasm. But without a prostate and along with it the disconnection of the spermatic tubes I orgasm completely dry. Another interesting experience. All and all my orgasms are different, more like waves as opposed to a burst. But they do last longer and feel very good.
The idea of getting a prostatectomy on demand is way beyond the pale of possibility. It is a very serious procedure, and it is not going to be done just for the hell of it.
I am glad to be around, and the side effects of the surgery are fine with me. I have grown to actually enjoy the way I am now, but would not do it by choice.
Feel free to PM if you have any questions
Now back to my prostate removal. I had an aggressive form of PC so they where not able to do the nerve sparing method, for fear that the cancer cells may have invaded that tissue. What this means is I am now completely limp all the time. I have had some shrinkage and when mentally aroused there is absolutely not even a twitch down there. A very interesting experience. But the nerves that allow for orgasm are in a different area and intact. Thus I can stimulate to orgasm. But without a prostate and along with it the disconnection of the spermatic tubes I orgasm completely dry. Another interesting experience. All and all my orgasms are different, more like waves as opposed to a burst. But they do last longer and feel very good.
The idea of getting a prostatectomy on demand is way beyond the pale of possibility. It is a very serious procedure, and it is not going to be done just for the hell of it.
I am glad to be around, and the side effects of the surgery are fine with me. I have grown to actually enjoy the way I am now, but would not do it by choice.
Feel free to PM if you have any questions
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With having the prostate removed I would be more concerned with being incontinent (I hope I spelled it correctly) rather than no erection or ejaculate.
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Francis (imported)
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I have had my prostate removed (cancer) by the robotic method and have only limited erectile function after 15 months. Not sure of the causes. Had better function immediately after recovery from the surgery than I have now. VIagra, Cialis and Levrita have little effect. Am about to try Caverject.
There may be other reasons for my particular problem. After the Prostate surgery my testicles started to shrink but I dont think this was related to the surgery. It was other factors. They are now non- functional and I am on HRT therapy with Reandol 1000 (two months into it) which has restored my libido a bit and I am hopeful will solve the erectile problem when T levels get up to full strength
I have had very limited incontinence experience and recomend therapy to any one who has this condition. kust after the surgery I was almost totally incontinent and was wearing full padded underwear for about two weeks. I went to a specialist physiotherapist in this area and she explained that the surgery removes two out of the three bladder control valves and you are left with only one which needs to be trained to function effectively. She put me through a 6 week set of exercises to strengthen control which resolved the problem. What you end up with after prostate surgery, is essentially the same as women who have only the one bladder control valve with all the problems that come with that for them (they don't talk about this very much with men). They have the same problems with leakage when coughing, laughing, etc and have developed a well structured set of exercises to strengthen this valve
The exercises worked well with me and I essentially have no problems with incontinence. I expect that this is the norm.
However if the cancer has escaped the prostate capsule and they need to takeout the lymph nodes and other structures in the area you may lose all control. Incidentally radiation therapy (both external beam therapy and radiactive seed inserts) may do more collaterall damage and can induce incontinence.
A word of advice to everybody here is to regularly check your PSA levels in all your blood tests. This will always start moving upward with cancer (also with prostate disease)a nd give early warning time for effective diagnosis and then surgery before it spreads. PC is incurable once it spreads into the bones and is a very very painful way to die. About the only treatment is to reduce testosterone levels to zero either chemicallly or surgically and this only slows down the progress so you can die from something else before it gets to that stage.
Ther are however reports of antibody therapy research that they are hopful can cure this cancer. Don't hold you breath for these. I think they are still a long way off.
There may be other reasons for my particular problem. After the Prostate surgery my testicles started to shrink but I dont think this was related to the surgery. It was other factors. They are now non- functional and I am on HRT therapy with Reandol 1000 (two months into it) which has restored my libido a bit and I am hopeful will solve the erectile problem when T levels get up to full strength
I have had very limited incontinence experience and recomend therapy to any one who has this condition. kust after the surgery I was almost totally incontinent and was wearing full padded underwear for about two weeks. I went to a specialist physiotherapist in this area and she explained that the surgery removes two out of the three bladder control valves and you are left with only one which needs to be trained to function effectively. She put me through a 6 week set of exercises to strengthen control which resolved the problem. What you end up with after prostate surgery, is essentially the same as women who have only the one bladder control valve with all the problems that come with that for them (they don't talk about this very much with men). They have the same problems with leakage when coughing, laughing, etc and have developed a well structured set of exercises to strengthen this valve
The exercises worked well with me and I essentially have no problems with incontinence. I expect that this is the norm.
However if the cancer has escaped the prostate capsule and they need to takeout the lymph nodes and other structures in the area you may lose all control. Incidentally radiation therapy (both external beam therapy and radiactive seed inserts) may do more collaterall damage and can induce incontinence.
A word of advice to everybody here is to regularly check your PSA levels in all your blood tests. This will always start moving upward with cancer (also with prostate disease)a nd give early warning time for effective diagnosis and then surgery before it spreads. PC is incurable once it spreads into the bones and is a very very painful way to die. About the only treatment is to reduce testosterone levels to zero either chemicallly or surgically and this only slows down the progress so you can die from something else before it gets to that stage.
Ther are however reports of antibody therapy research that they are hopful can cure this cancer. Don't hold you breath for these. I think they are still a long way off.