Catholic Church and Castration

[cbeard (imported)]

Hello,

Does anyone know what the Catholic's church's official current stance is on Chemical Castration and Physical Castration? I am a Catholic, but this is really just a curiosity post. I could not find my answer by searching the web. Thanks so much.

[xxy--eun (imported)]

HI friend

As what i know about catholic church, ( I am a lutheran) but have a friend of a girl who is a real catholic.. As we did speak about castrion and all theis, she said "We catholic DONT talk about this matter".

She did knew that I was castrated, in 2003....

When we did last time see eachother in 2006 we did have very good sex, here by my appartment in Sweden.

WE where also in Rom (Italy) in yr 2000 to celibrate the 25 year jubileum in the Catholic church... Everything then was very goood... Even then we had sex, and the day after she hade to find a priest to becomming forgivness for the sin she had done.

[tugon (imported)]

As a recovering catholic my first thought is do what makes you happy and aligns your body with your mind. Since no one will notice when you go to church. As a gay man who used to receive the sacrements I was told I should not take communion since I was not in a state of grace. I said something about if Jesus did not want me to receive I am sure he would send a strong wind to remove it.

Back to your question. Since the church condems birth control and anything that would keep you from being fruitful and multiply I would think they are against it. Unless of course for medical reasons. I think in the case of testicular cancer it would be okay.

This is the same church that will not suuport the use of condoms in Africa to stop the spread of AIDS.

[Gibbonator (imported)]

From the Catechism, 2297 on respect for bodily integrity: 'Except when performed for stricty therapeutic medical reasons, directly intended amputations, mutilations and sterilizations performed on innocent persons are against the moral law.'

I should think that respect for one's body and human dignity means that castration (physical or otherwise) would be out of the question unless it were to serve a higher good (eg. strict medical necessity).

[saywhat (imported)]

As Gibbonator pointed out. It is allowed for Therapeutic medical reasons. I feel that since they caused me to be overly sexual, and depressed, then removing them was a therapeutic medical reason.

[gareth19 (imported)]

As Gibbonator pointed out. It is allowed for Therapeutic medical reasons. I feel that since they caused me to be overly sexual, and depressed, then removing them was a therapeutic medical reason.

By therapeutic medical reasons, they mean to prevent or inhibit testicular or prostate cancer.

[chemcast scot (imported)]

As was said in another message,a church thta will not allow the use of condoms in africa to help fight aids,do we realy worry about what they think about castration.

As long as you are happy with your life and how your body looks,castrated or not it is your life and your body,so never mind what anyone thinks.

[Eromel-1 (imported)]

It all depends on how devoted you are willing to be in so far as research into original sources is concerned. I am by no means erudite on this topic, but my impression is that the key historical influx into history regarding this issue is the First Cannon of the first Ecumenical council (itself a remarkable landmark!). As you can readily verify from any patrological source, the idea is that any man who has, as an act of free will, rid himself of his genetilia, is heneceforth disqualified from the presbyteriate (priesthood). This does not apply to involuntary castrates. A highly significant distinction (in my humble opinion) in so far as the salient issue here seems to be voluntarism vs. determinism, in contrast to issues of sexualism vs. asexualism...but I must defer to those who study patrology in a professional capacity.

[Riverwind (imported)]

As was said in another message,a church that will not allow the use of condoms in

Africa to help fight aids,do we real

ly worry about what they think about castration.

As long as you are happy with your life and how your body looks,castrated or not it is your life and your body,so never mind what anyone thinks.

You are absolutely correct, the Catholic Church over the last 2000 years has violated human rights so many times and ways that to take any high ground at this point makes them look hypocritical.

River

[Paolo]

As Sherry Vine said, "You say I'm sick, I'm a sinner - but I am NOT the one molesting boys!"

AMEN.

And by the way we mention that topic here, but debate it in the forum where it belongs!

[seriously curious (imported)]

The Catholic Church no longer Recognizes castration as an option unless done for medical reasons . The only reason that the church ever condoned castration was for it's angelic male chior singers "Castrati". I believe the last castrati died in the early part of the last century. I may be wrong as to the time frame. The family that offered thier child to be castrated was paid a handsome sum by the Church, for the loss of Offspring. As a Catholic that carries the guilt of the world on her shoulders, and often struggled with the dicision to transition and ultimately had the Orchiectomy. My take on this is God needs me to learn a lesson and he made me the way I am to achieve that goal. So throw the yoke of guilt that the Church lays on your shoulders away and live your life on your own terms.

Also before a Pope can be fully Vested he must prove that he is a fully functioning male with all the acrutrement attached. This is done so that another female Pope wont ever get ellected to the Papacy again. The church doesn't talk about that. I can't remember this Popes name. However, the Cardinals were none to happy to find out.

[Pervyguy (imported)]

Why should anybody really care about what the Catholic Church says & thinks, its out-dated dinosaur and its serves no-useful purpose, its should be allowed to die off. We all have brains and can & decide for ourselfs without the Catholic Church brain-washing.

You are absolutely correct, the Catholic Church over the last 2000 years has violated human rights so many times and ways that to take any high ground at this point makes them look hypocritical.

River

[Riverwind (imported)]

That would hold true for all Churches, or any other religion for that matter.

River

[Silenzio (imported)]

Also before a Pope can be fully Vested he must prove that he is a fully functioning male with all the acrutrement attached. This is done so that another female Pope wont ever get ellected to the Papacy again. The church doesn't talk about that. I can't remember this Popes name. However, the Cardinals were none to happy to find out.

This is a well known medieval myth widely studied by historicians.

[saywhat (imported)]

Why should anybody really care about what the Catholic Church says & thinks, its out-dated dinosaur and its serves no-useful purpose, its should be allowed to die off. We all have brains and can & decide for ourself

s without the Catholic Church brain-washing.

That would hold true for all

Churches, or any other religion for that matter.

River

Hey All, I am not an administrator of this site, but... This site is supposed to be open and accepting. Please do not put down anyone's beliefs, whether or not you agree with them. I grew up Catholic and am now Protestant. I don't agree with the Catholic church, but do not believe I have the right to put down the church or its believers, as I also don't believe I should condemn those of other faiths or no faith at all. Thank you.

[SexlessC23 (imported)]

Hey All, I am not an administrator of this site, but... This site is supposed to be open and accepting. Please do not put down anyone's beliefs, whether or not you agree with them. I grew up Catholic and am now Protestant. I don't agree with the Catholic church, but do not believe I have the right to put down the church or its believers, as I also don't believe I should condemn those of other faiths or no faith at all. Thank you.

I agree. I was brought up Catholic, and am still Catholic and have no plans to cease being Catholic. I am greatly offended by what I read here. The Church is made up of 1 billion people and a very large number of clergy, each and every one of which is as imperfect as the next. Though most of us strive to be better, there are bad apples in any large population group and we're no exception. To tar and feather all Catholics and clergy for adhering to "myths" or being "pedophiles" does a great disservice to the many decent Catholics, and the many priests and religious who are involved in charitable causes around the world.

Religious put-downs have no more place here than put-downs over one's sexuality.

I'd like to ask an administrator to cancel my membership on this forum, but am unsure of how to go about it. I have to read enough factually-incorrect garbage about my faith in the media. No need to read more of it here.

[tugon (imported)]

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[Paolo]

Ask and ye shall receive.

Gone.

And we're also done here.