Castration can go wrong

[luvpain (imported)]

Article from Local Newspaper

Detroit Free Press (http://www.freep.com/)

Original Article (http://www.freep.com/news/l

atestnews/pm10702_20020823.htm)

Man charged in voluntary castration case

Friday, August 23, 2002

By MATT HELMS

FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

A Taiwanese national living in Oak Park faces charges related to voluntary castrating a Birmingham man who bled uncontrollably after the procedure was performed in June.

Shuo-Shan Wang, 29,

was to be arraigned today in Oak Park District Court on one coun

t

of practicing medicine without a license

and unlawfully dispensing a prescription drug. The medical charge is a felony carrying up to four years in prison, while the drug charge is a 90-day misdemeanor.

Oakland County prosecutors said the 48-year-old Birmingham man who underwent the operation on Wang's kitchen table had contacted the would-be surgeon on the Internet. Wang told police he had performed castrations on other men in Michigan and in a former home in Australia.

Both men said they were eating pie after the procedure when the castrated man began laughing - and then bleeding, which couldn't be stopped.

Prosecutors said a neighbor notified authorities, who found the man sitting in blood-soaked jeans on a curb on Northfield Street. Police later found two testicles in a container in Wang's refrigerator.

Psychiatry experts say that such incidents are are, but some men want to be castrated for erotic reasons, and there are Web sites devoted to the subject. Other reasons include gender-identity disorders and compulsive feelings that genitals are dirty.

Oakland County deputy prosecutor Jim Halushka said the Birmingham man might have bled to death had the neighbor not called police. The m

an later underwent emergency surgery at Pr

ovidence Hospital in Southfield.

``The whole purpose of the statut

e of practicing medicine without a license

is really illustrated in this case,'' Halushka said. Wang ``doesn't have a license. He's not equipped to handle a problem when it arises.''

Halushka said Wang has overstayed a student visa by more than year, and immigration authorities have been notified of his status.

It wasn't clear Friday whether Wang had an attorney. He couldn't be reached immediately for comment.

[Riverwind (imported)]

Well I see the "truth" is out in full force. I guess truth is in the eye of the beholder, your truth, my truth. <sigh> I just hope the cutter comes out OK, with the worst thing they do is deport him. It sucks to face prison for providing a service that the medical community is unwilling to.

[Andrew (imported)]

If the cutter had NOT over-stayed his visa, but still had a valid one...or if he was a USA citizen...thus allowed to stay in the USA...then what?

[Mac (imported)]

Why wasn't the cutter concerned enough to call EMS when the patient started to bleed uncontrollably? That should have been the main concern.

[luvpain (imported)]

Why wasn't the cutter concerned enough to call EMS when the patient started to bleed uncontrollably? That should have been the main concern.

Don't believe everything you read in the Newspaper.

The caller to 911 wasn't a local neighbor. I'll leave it at that for right now since the case is still open.

The cutter was the utmost concerned about Don, and the only reason Don ending up giving Police the location of the cutter was from the sucidal overtone that he was displaying. Of cource it probably wouldn't have been very difficult for the police to locate the cutter using a police dog to tack Don's trail, or by following the Blood trail.

[luvpain (imported)]

Taken from The Oakland Press (http://www.theoaklandpress

.com/)

Orginal Article (http://www.

zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=5147655&BRD=982&PAG=461&dept_id=467992&rfi=8)

Taiwanese student charged with castrating man in home

By CHARLES CRUMM, Of The Oakland Press

August 24, 2002

A man accused of castrating a Birmingham resident on the dining room tab

le of his Oak Park home was arraigned Friday on charge

s

of practicing medicine without a license

and unlawfully dispensing prescription drugs.

Shuo-Shan Wang, 29, pleaded not guilty and was released on $25,000 bond after agreeing to pledge his Oak Park home as surety.

Wearing a blue striped shirt and tan slacks, Wang said nothing during the arraignment.

Wang, from Taiwan, has been in the country on a student visa that expired a year ago.

The brief arraignment in Oak Park District Court focused more on whether Wang should be rele

ased on bail, in light of the expir

ed visa.

"He's here on an expired visa," said Detective Maureen Bergman of the Oak Park Police Department. "It's been expired for about a year."

Wang's attorney, Steve Reina, argued Wang was not a risk of flight because of the home he owns, because he turned himself in to face arraignment and because he has no criminal history.

"He's not interested in running," Reina said. "He's interested in facing the charges."

Judge Marvin Frankel released Wang after he agreed to pledge his house as security. A pretrial conference is scheduled for Sept. 3.

P

racticing medicine without a license

is a four-year felony. Unlawfully dispensing prescription medicine is a 90-day misdemeanor.

Prosecutors say emergency medical personnel were called to Wang's Oak Park address June 8 after neighbor reported seeing a 48-year-old man bleeding in the street. The man was taken to Providence Hospital where emergency surgery was performed following the removal of his testicles.

Prosecutors allege the man found Wang while searching the Internet for someone to perform a castration on him. Police say Wang performed the castration on his dining room table.

[happousai (imported)]

> P

racticing

medicine without a license

is a four-year

> fe

lony. Unlawfully dispensing prescription medicine is a

> 90-day misdemeanor.

That sucks. So, the cutter could go to jail for four years just for helping out one of our members.

The cutter is not like some common criminal who robs peoples' houses, etc.!

[Don (imported)]

For a brief update:

Today is the preliminary examination, in which a District Court judge (equivalent to a town or city judge in some other states) will decide whether the case should proceed to trial in the Circuit (county) Court. Of course I've been called as a witness for the prosecution. I suppose this may blow my cover in the local media, since now my name will be a matter of public record.

All I can do at this point is to tell the truth and hope for the best. Perjury is, after all (as is emphasized in the guidelines for witnesses that were mailed to me), a 15-year felony in Michigan.

[Neoscrow (imported)]

Our thoughts and prayers are with you, Don.

I'm sending my letter out today.

Be well.

Lysette

[sag111 (imported)]

i thank it was about a year ago a man in stoction cal did his own castration . his wife found him ded of a hart atack in the bathroom . this was reported on local tv stations

[Andrew (imported)]

Which brings me to my own situation: I'm definately doing my own orcheditomy (sp?) - starting with my right testicle. I think I have it figured out, including tying off the testicular artery and vein BEFORE cutting. I wonder about the pain that might result from cutting the nerve, and cutting thru the tunicia (inner sac).

Anyone have a suggestion on a close-up video or textbook?

My own suggestion would be to forget do-it-yourself castration. Just too dangerous.



I'd suggest saving up the money for a visit to Dr. Kimmel.

[someguy (imported)]

geez salami, thats pretty gross. you want no anesthetic and feel em get snipped? thats gonna be painful im sure! why do you want them removed?

[luvpain (imported)]

Someguy,

Please stop repeating yourself. You have already asked that question, and I and others have given you answers in the thread, where you asked about the pain.

This Thread has Gotten OFF TOPIC, if you wish to continue the discussion start another thread please.

[someguy (imported)]

i was asking why he personally wanted it done, geez

[someguy (imported)]

Content deleted, slandering other members.

Paolo

[Paolo]

That's it fella, you're outta here.

:realpisse

[talula]

I'm locking this thread.

I love you with the widow maker P. I just laugh and laugh.

[luvpain (imported)]

Taken from WDIV Channel 4 Detroit (http://www.wdiv.com

/)

Original Story

(http://www.clickondetroit.com/det/news/stories/news-1

84760920021219-151206.html)

Man Pleads Guilty To Kitchen Castration

Wang Could Face Four Years In Prison

Posted: 3:53 p.m. EST December 19, 2002

Updated: 4:12 p.m. EST December 19, 20

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castrating another man in his kitchen.

Shuo Shan Wang pleaded guilty to practicing medicine without a license and dispensing prescription drugs.

A Birmingham man went to Wang's home after he discovered the service in an advertisement on the Internet.

The man complained of pain following the procedure and had to be hospitalized, Local 4 reported.

Wang could face up to four years in prison. But officials believe he'll likely be placed on probation in his sentencing next month.

[luvpain (imported)]

Taken from

The Detroit Free Press (http://www.freep.com/)

Orginal

Story (http://www.freep.com/news/locoak/wcast19_20021219.htm)

Castration case ends with guilty plea

Operation was done in Oak Park kitchen

December 19, 2002

BY L.L. BRASIER

FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

An unemployed Oak Park engineer will likely avoid serving time in jail after pleading guilty Wednesday to conducting a voluntary castration using his kitchen as an operating room.

"I performed a procedure, as the victim required," Shuo-Shan Wang, 29, tol

d Oakland

County Circuit Judge F

red Mester, in pleadi

ng guilty to

practicing medicine without a license

and dispensing prescription medication.

The judge, in prompting more details, asked, "You put a knife against the skin?"

"Yes, a castration," Wang replied.

Wang is expected to receive probation whe

n he is sentenced Jan. 29. He faces a maximum four years in prison for

practicing medicine without a license.

The other charge is a 90-day misdemeanor.

Wang, who has a master's degree in engineering, has no prior criminal record.

"It's a weird case," Wang's attorney, Steve Reina said outside the courtroom. "But let's not forget, he's a first-time offender and there is no reason to smack him hard."

Assistant prosecutor Ken Frazee said the crime was less severe than if the victim had been unwilling.

The man was seeking the castration because he had a sexually transmitted disease and no longer wanted a sex drive, Frazee said.

"Certainly, if the victim had not sought out the defendant and made this request, we would have taken a different approach here," Frazee said. "He's not so much a victim as a complainant."

Wang, a Taiwanese national in the United States on a long-term student visa, was arrested in June after the man he castrated began to bleed and required emergency medical treatment.

Wang told police the man, a 48-year-old Birmingham resident who has not been identified and was not in court Wednesday, contacted him through the Internet, where Wang was advertising his services.

According to investigators, Wang said that he had castrated about 50 men before he ran into trouble with the Birmingham man.

Wang performed the 40-minute procedure, using prescription pain medication he had purchased from a firm in Canada, where it is sold over the counter.

Afterward, a blood clot apparently broke as the the man was laughing.

When he began to hemorrhage, he wandered out to the yard and sat on the curb, where a passing motorist, alarmed by his bloody clothing, called police. He was transferred to a local hospital, where doctors stopped the bleeding.

Police, in searching Wang's small ranch-style home, found a pair of human testicles in the refrigerator.

Contact L.L. BRASIER at 248-858-2262 or at [email protected].

[luvpain (imported)]

Taken from Lansing State Journal (http://www.lsj

.com/)

Orginal Article (http://www.

lsj.com/news/local/021220_copbeat_3b.html)

Man pleads guilty in kitchen castration case

PONTIAC - A man with

no medical license who says he has castrated 50 men has

pleaded guilty to

practicing medicine without a license.

Shuo-Shan Wang, a 29-year-old engineer, was arrested after one man who sought his services began hemorrhaging outside Wang's home in the Detroit suburb of Oak Park.

Authorities say Wang operated on his kitchen table.

Afterward, he and the 48-year-old man shared some pie at the same table.

Wang did not charge for the surgery.

"I performed a procedure, as the

victim required," Wang told Oakland County Circuit Judge Fred Mester, in pleading guilty on Wednesday. He also pleaded guilty to dispensing prescription

medication.

Wang, who has no previou

s convictions, is expected to recei

ve probation wh

en sentenced Jan. 29. P

racticing medicine without a license

carries a penalty of up to four years in prison.

The drug charge is a 90-day misdemeanor.

"It's a weird case," said Wang's attorney, Steve Reina. "But let's not forget, he's a first-time offender and there is no reason to smack him hard."

The Birmingham man was seeking the castration because he had a sexually transmitted disease and no longer wanted a sex drive, Frazee said.

[Blaise (imported)]

consequences follow our behaviors.

Think what everyone would say, if I had my cock chopped off.

[happousai (imported)]

"Certainly, if the victim had not sought out the defendant and made this request, we would have taken a different approach here," Frazee said. "He's not so much a victim as a complainant."

How can he even be a "complainant"? He never complained, AFAIK.

[Don (imported)]

Hi, all -

Your friendly victim/complainant here. Of course, though, I'm not a victim, and as Happousai pointed out, I never really complained. If the justice system in Michigan really needed someone to complain, this case never would have been brought. As it stands, though, I suppose the ending to this saga will be about as good as can be expected under the circumstances. I'm just glad the cutter might be spared jail time, and I won't have to testify again. We'll just have to wait for the end of the month.

BTW, anyone interested in my whereabouts the last few months can see my new post under Gay Cafe.

[Don (imported)]

Strike that... I'll post it to Personal Histories and Fantasies.

[Andrew (imported)]

Strike that... I'll post it to Personal Histories and Fantasies.

Checked that forum at 4:20 PM PST, nothing there. Looking forward to it when you have the time.

I for one would like to know how you are doing, have you healed well, are you having problems with hot flashes, what has happened to your libido, and what other physical and mental changes you have noted.

Nosey, aint I?



But I am concerned about eunuch health issues, especially the health of my friends in the EA.