Convincing Doctor to Castrate?

[Mac (imported)]

How can I possibly convince my doctor to castrate me? What condition could I have that would require castration? Has anybody had a personal experience with this? What Works?

[boyboy (imported)]

Versuch es mit dem Vorspielen von " Transsexualität".

Ist nötig eine Weile durchzuhalten, dann erfolgt die Umwandlung.

Lasse es bis zum gewünschten Punkt geschehen und dann brich ab.

Geniesse die Zeit bis zu dem Punkt.

...mail me.....

:tongueout

[Mac (imported)]

boyboy

Sorry, I can't read or understand German. Where do you get those animated graphics?

[boyboy (imported)]

Trying preludes you is a Girl in feeling .

Then transmutation to Women.

You let castration, if is castration ready, abort transmutation

[boyboy (imported)]

Where do you get those animated graphics?

This is written by boyboy

[CT212 (imported)]

How can I possibly convince my doctor to castrate me? What condition could I have that would require castration? Has anybody had a personal experience with this? What Works?

Although this may be more difficult for the non-transgendered, I am seeking a local urologist for castration. With the help of my GP and my therapist, I will present letters to the urologist stating that I desire castration before eventual GRS. You will have to convince a therapist of your strong conviction to be castrated. Be informed, tell the therapist what castration will do for you. If you have a therapist on your side, the doctor may be willing to listen to your therapist and agree to the surgery. I am in this prosses now and will let you know of the outcome.

Chris

[happousai (imported)]

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Sorry, I can't read or understand German. Where do

> you get those animated graphics?

This is what he said according to the translator software at http://world.altavista.com/ :

Attempt it with the playing of "Transsexualitaet". Is to be held out necessarily one while, then the transformation takes place. Let it up to the desired point happen and then break off. Enjoy the time up to the point.

So basically, he said to pretend to be a male-to-female transsexual until you get an orchiectomy, then you can stop pretending.

[Paolo]

A fairly accurate translation, happ.

Try convincing the Dr. that you are transexual, desiring SRS in the long run, and hold onto this idea until the actual point of transformation then back out.

I'm not sure about this approach, as to if someone who does not actually desire SRS could convince a psych. of such. I am also not sure what the policy is on castration / estrogen therapy.

Hello, girls, anyone got information on this one?

Do they prescribe estrogens first before castration, or before ANYTHING else to make sure that the fellow is actually in pursuit of SRS?

[Sherry (imported)]

A fairly accurate translation, happ.

Try convincing the Dr. that you are transexual, desiring SRS in the long run, and hold onto this idea until the actual point of transformation then back out.

I'm not sure about this approach, as to if someone who does not actually desire SRS could convince a psych. of such. I am also not sure what the policy is on castration / estrogen therapy.

Hello, girls, anyone got information on this one?

Do they prescribe estrogens first before castration, or before ANYTHING else to make sure that the fellow is actually in pursuit of SRS?

I think this would be possible, but very difficult for a non-transgendered person to do. We girls realized the difficulty of acting like boys during our childhood and often beyond, so I imagine that it would be equally as difficult for a real man to pretend to be a transsexual woman for many months.

Now one option for non-transgendered males who wish castration would be to go to Dr. Kimmel, as he does not require his patients to be transgendered. Bangkok might be a possibility, but I really don't know the prerequisites for castration over there.

Apparently the other castration surgeons (Barham and Brownstein) only do transsexuals, although those who take estrogen and make the full time social transition while declining the SRS may still be elgible.

Those doctors require 6 months of feminizing HRT and a therapist letter, so those of you who wish to attempt the pretense of being transsexual would have to endure estrogen medication for months, plus you would have to know what to tell the therapist. You will probably have to submit to multiple therapist sessions. Even if the doctors don't expect you to have made the social transition, you might need to present as a woman before the therapist and possibly the castration doctor.

The therapist will ask you many questions such as have you come out to your spouse, and how has she been reacting to your alleged transsexuality. Although the doctors don't specifically require you to be full time before castration, I can imagine a therapist pressing you to make the legal and social transition. This therapist would have to be convinced that you are able to blend in with the women around you. You might have to take tests such as the MMPI.

Dr. Kimmel charges more than the other surgeons, but the money you would spend on the therapist plus your estrogen medication would probably more than offset whatever you would save by going to one of the doctors who operate only on transsexuals. If you still wish to pretend to be transsexual, that is not impossible, but it would be difficult.

[Mac (imported)]

I need some straight-forward and honest reason for which my doctor will say that they have to be removed. No false games and no visits to shrinks.

Have to have a reason that my wife will accept as medically necessary.

[CT212 (imported)]

I need some straight-forward and honest reason for which my doctor will say that they have to be removed. No false games and no visits to shrinks.

I would have to agree with Sherry on this, someone like Dr. Kimmel may be your only option. Most, if not all, doctors will not remove healthy organs. Only if there is a health risk will they operate, even then, drug treatments are used before surgery is considered.

Have to have a reason that my wife will accept as medically necessary

Be honest with your wife. This must be your decision, and your decision alone. You must convey these feelings to your wife. She must be comfortable with your desicion. If you have been chemicaly castrated for some time, your inner feelings should guide you to the correct explination, if not, I fear your relationship may suffer. The psycological aspects of castration far outweigh the physical aspects. Not long after I started chemical castration, deep down inside I knew this was, in part, what I had been seeking all of my life. I hope this will help you find the answers you need.

P.S.: hope I was't too harsh, just trying to help and give my $0.02 worth

Chris

[SplitDik (imported)]

There are many medical conditions that require castration, including surgical castration.

Most types of cancer, especially prostate and testicular require castration to slow the spread of the cancer. Of course it would be difficult to fake cancer. If you wanted to fake cancer, I would suggest that you inject something into your testicle to make it lumpy. Doctor's very quickly will remove a testicle that seems to have certain types of masses in them.

Testicular torsion is perhaps the most common non-cancerous reason to remove testicles. If the blood supply has been reduced for 12 hours or more the testicle is considered unsalvagable. It is hard to fake testicular torsion though, because the actual condition requires a failure of some tendons that keep the testicles from twisting. Furthermore, they will do a doppler ultrasound to assess the blood supply.

Testicular atrophy is another reason to remove testicles.

My suggestion for getting a doctor to remove your testicles is to kill them first by cutting off the blood supply. You only need to cut off the supply for 12 hours, but that is easier said than done (painful). Burdizzo clamping might work as well. Or injections of a weak acid into the testicle.

To repeat, you need to damage them in a way that they atrophy. Doctor's will not hesitate to remove testicles that are necrotic.

[happousai (imported)]

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To repeat, you need to damage them in a way that they

> atrophy. Doctor's will not hesitate to remove testicles

> that are necrotic.

If he e.g. Burdizzo-clamps his testicles, how do you suggest that he explain it to the doctor without being labelled mentally insane?

[luvpain (imported)]

Warning!!!

Be careful with what you do. Injecting things into your testicles may have some serious health consequences. Plus most liquids will not cause a lump. I have injected sterile saline before, and testicle became rock hard, however it didn't take long for it to wear off, and there were no noticeable lumps.

You will probably not be able to withstand the pain from some of the method SplitDik mentioned. I also imagine you will be given low priority in the ER over more life threatening cases. Make sure you research things very well before attempting them, as nobody wants to see you in the ER or even worse dead.

[SplitDik (imported)]

I agree that most liquids injected in the testicles will not cause permanent lumps.

I have injected all of the following into my testicles at one time or another:

- cooking oil

- male hormones (test cypionate, test ethanate, test decathanate, etc.)

- female hormones

- vinegar

- rubbing alcohol

- saline

I have a large number of small "cysts" that doctors always comment on when they ultrasound my testes -- these are the injection sites. But nothing that can be really called a lump.

Yes, it is definitely painful, and only recommended to someone who can withstand or enjoys such pain. Furthermore, all of the above (except possibly saline) will cause adverse health effects to your body in general.

To create a lump, you'd probably have to use something like silicon gel or something. It would be difficult to inject, and you'd need to choose something non-toxic.

I too want everyone to play safe. But unfortunately, castration is next to impossible to get safely, and I think that tricking a doctor may be one's only recourse. So the balance is to hurt your testicles in a way that does not hurt the rest of your body.

Regarding explaining to the doctor, all you need to do is to feign ignorance. Go into the doctor because your testicles don't feel right (hard, lumpy, whatever). Then when he/she asks about your history, tell them that "yes in fact I did have some severe pain down there a couple months ago". If an ultrasound shows that blood flow is restricted, that the testicles have atrophied, or there are significant lumps, then the doctor might figure that you either had a torsion incident that spontaneously untorsioned or that you have to have testicular biospy.

[happousai (imported)]

Regarding explaining to the doctor, all you need to do is to feign ignorance. Go into the doctor because your testicles don't feel right (hard, lumpy, whatever). Then when he/she asks about your history, tell them that "yes in fact I did have some severe pain down there a couple months ago". If an ultrasound shows that blood flow is restricted, that the testicles have atrophied, or there are significant lumps, then the doctor might figure that you either had a torsion incident that spontaneously untorsioned or that you have to have testicular biospy.

Doesn't the Burdizzo clamp leave an obvious mark on the scrotum where it was clamped down?

[Sherry (imported)]

I need some straight-forward and honest reason for which my doctor will say that they have to be removed. No false games and no visits to shrinks.

Have to have a reason that my wife will accept as medically necessary.

Hi Mac,

From reading your posts, I do appreciate that you do love your wife. If you wish to work this out with her so that you may sustain your relationship, then do attempt to do that.

But in the end, the decision to be castrated or not be castrated has to be yours, because it is your body. Here in the USA, a woman can have an abortion without the consent of her husband. So should a man be able to have castration or a penectomy even if his wife objects? When your wife does not wish to have sex, you respect that. Should she respect the husband who wishes to overthrow an oppressive libido?

Do make your best effort to continue your relationship, but whether you get castrated or don't get castrated has to be determined by you.

I wish you a long and happy relationship and a body you are comfortable with.

[Mac (imported)]

Hi Mac,

...

the decision to be castrated or not be castrated has to be yours, because it is your body. Here in the USA, a woman can have an abortion without the consent of her husband. So should a man be able to have castration or a penectomy even if his wife objects? ... I wish you a long and happy relationship and a body you are comfortable with.

Sherry JoanneThank you Sherry,

I love my wife and we have a great relationship that I will not sacrifice. That is why I must find a way where she will willingly accept any changes.

You are right that a woman can get an abortion without her husband's approval. However, I would be willing to bet that a wife's approval would have to be obtained for her husband to be castrated. My wife had to sign a consent form when I had a vasectomy.

[SplitDik (imported)]

Doesn't the Burdizzo clamp leave an obvious mark on the scrotum where it was clamped down?

I am suggesting that you wait until after the testicles atrophy -- perhaps several weeks after using the burdizzo. The burdizzo will definitely cause a significant bruize/scab, but if you do it properly you only clamp a portion of the scrotum, allowing bloodflow to still make it to the remainder of the scrotum -- that will allow healing. The scrotum is such a wrinkly piece of skin that a scar may well be unoticable once the scab peels away.

I've seen a lot of urologists, and surprisingly they are almost as squeamish as other people regarding close inspection of your genitals. They certainly will inspect whatever you complain about, but they don't really do that thorough of a job. I am fairly sure that if you complained about atrophy, they will simply roll the testicle in their fingers then prescribe an ultrasound.

[Mac (imported)]

Is there a small clamp that will clamp the cords to the testicle for long enough to affect it without doing any permanent damage to the scrotum?

[luvpain (imported)]

Is there a small clamp that will clamp the cords to the testicle for long enough to affect it without doing any permanent damage to the scrotum?

The burdizzo would do the least amount of damage to the scrotum.

I'm Attaching an image of me using a forceps to clamp the scrotum, and the results of it the next day.

This was an attempt of mine to try and cause the sac to be split in half.

BTW it is very uncomfortable to sleep with a forceps clamped to your sac or penis. :tongueout

[luvpain (imported)]

Here is what it looked like the next day. I have a nice scar now

[smoothie36 (imported)]

What would I tell my regular urologist on my annual visit if I go to Dr. K and get relieved of my testicles ellectively.

I would rather have a good "story" ready.

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

Searching for cutters even if you are experienced and knowlegable is a path littered with peculiar dangers and consequences. Do you trust your cutter with your life and reputation? Is your cutter in this for reasons he wouldn't want you to know about? Is he really a cutter or just a fool with a knife? And how can you be sure if you haven't done years of research and observation? As to what to say to your doctor: Not much. There is probably nothing that will convince him to do it the way you want. If you use the services of "Dr. K" you may not need a good story. If you have a good relationship with your doctor he may just treat you in accordance with your needs. --FLO--

[ramses (imported)]

One thing you need to keep in mind though, is that ANYTIME they take something out of your body, they biopsy it! Tehy will likely be able to see the bruising that injections make and if you put anything "wierd" like silicone, they will see it and start asking some strange questions. It would probably make it into your medical records and you could become "uninsurable".

And using the wrong silicone can be dangerous. Some despanrate transexuals have died from "Pumping" parties where they inject silicone directly into tbe breast. It can be fatal if ingected into a vein or artery.

I agree that most liquids injected in the testicles will not cause permanent lumps.

I have injected all of the following into my testicles at one time or another:

- cooking oil

- male hormones (test cypionate, test ethanate, test decathanate, etc.)

- female hormones

- vinegar

- rubbing alcohol

- saline

I have a large number of small "cysts" that doctors always comment on when they ultrasound my testes -- these are the injection sites. But nothing that can be really called a lump.

Yes, it is definitely painful, and only recommended to someone who can withstand or enjoys such pain. Furthermore, all of the above (except possibly saline) will cause adverse health effects to your body in general.

To create a lump, you'd probably have to use something like silicon gel or something. It would be difficult to inject, and you'd need to choose something non-toxic.

I too want everyone to play safe. But unfortunately, castration is next to impossible to get safely, and I think that tricking a doctor may be one's only recourse. So the balance is to hurt your testicles in a way that does not hurt the rest of your body.

Regarding explaining to the doctor, all you need to do is to feign ignorance. Go into the doctor because your testicles don't feel right (hard, lumpy, whatever). Then when he/she asks about your history, tell them that "yes in fact I did have some severe pain down there a couple months ago". If an ultrasound shows that blood flow is restricted, that the testicles have atrophied, or there are significant lumps, then the doctor might figure that you either had a torsion incident that spontaneously untorsioned or that you have to have testicular biospy.