Getting banded this Friday

[siobhansmith (imported)]

Well, I'm taking the plunge. I'm getting banded. I'm ONLY doing things this way as I cannot afford surgical castration or other means. I am aware of the dangers - and the pain - involved and believe me, I'm somewhat nervous. However, this is the way to go for me.

I'm therefore asking for advice - providing I'm not breaking forum rules here - on how to go about with the removal... I've been reading up on things, but think it's best I ask here for experienced views.

How soon after banding occurs is it safe to remove?

Should one simply use a sharp knife - sterilised, of course.

Any advice would be appreciated - however, be aware that I'm intent on doign this, so if your going to just say 'Don't!', well, thank you, I also appreciate that point, but Im set on this path.

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

why do you want to band them

there are so many better ways to do this

those little orange or green bands are worthless

so i would not try them except for play..then they are excellent

i have seen a tribander at work..it does a very good job..is easy to work with

like i said ..banding is a very messy way to do that

why the need to cut it off after banding...i thought that was the point to wait till they fall off on their own

i see you are ts in your profile???

[tugon (imported)]

Can you share your motivation to band and be castrated? When you are considering castration a trial with chemical castration is the best advice. Keep in mind that banding is for animals. I guess my best advice is to have transportation to a hospital or 911 on speed dial.

[Riverwind (imported)]

Truly of all the ways to be castrated I do believe this is the most dangerous. Also if by your profile you say your TS then you will need the sac for later, if you ban them you will loose the sac as well.

Stay close to the ER, have 911 or the UK equivalent on your speed dial.

Remember Gang green can kill you and by banding you are inviting that.

I think you should re-think this out, I know the need to be castrated, we all know that feeling but do it the right way, a safe way, banding is life threatening.

River

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

check these guys out maybe they can help you

they are in the uk

http://www.grsterry.com/results.htm

[Dave (imported)]

Well, I'm taking the plunge. I'm getting banded. I'm ONLY doing things this way as I cannot afford surgical castration or other means. I am aware of the dangers - and the pain - involved and believe me, I'm somewhat nervous. However, this is the way to go for me.

I'm therefore asking for advice - providing I'm not breaking forum rules here - on how to go about with the removal... I've been reading up on things, but think it's best I ask here for experienced views.

How soon after banding occurs is it safe to remove?

Should one simply use a sharp knife - sterilized, of course.

Any advice would be appreciated - however, be aware that I'm intent on doing this, so if your going to just say 'Don't!', well, thank you, I also appreciate that point, but I

'm set on this path.

Are you sure this is the way to go?

First, it's going to hurt like hell and possibly be unbearable for anywhere from 6 hours to a day. I mean excruciating pain like multiple kicks in the balls over and over.

Second: you won't be able to stop the pain with alcohol or drugs because you are involving deep nerves and not surface nerves. You might over-alcohol or overdose on drugs if you try.

Third: If you make it past that and the scrotum and testicles are finally dead. They are toxic -- think gangrene and rotting meat dead. You can't just cut the scrotum away because if the rings slip off, you'll bleed to death. Your dead balls are holding the rings on and keep you from bleeding. That's what they don't tell you about animal castrations -- horses and cattle walk around for days and weeks with rotting fleshing hanging... How to win friends and influence people - smell like rotting flesh.

Fourth: you go to the hospital with some contrived story to cover up your deed and lie about your dead testicles... And the doctors put you in a psychiatric ward for evaluation. That's three days to a week, possibly more.

Fifth: the emergency room bill shows up in your mailbox and the hospital will collect it. Oh yes, it will be a huge amount and they will take the money from you any way they can...

And that's the happy future (I hope you recognized the sarcasm in that past sentence)...

You might do better with alcohol injections. It will take a few months, maybe the better part of a year, but the results will be so much easier and less hazardous. Seriously consider the alcohol injections over banding.

I came back to add this a few minutes after I posted:

-- if you do find a doctor willing to treat you with hormones after you do this by banding, that doctor will always be wary of you because you (by your actions and deeds) showed that you will do things to hurt your body and not listen to his advice. So if he tells you that certain hormones (brands or types or combinations) are not good for you, he will have no trust that you will not do those hormones behind his back, after all, you destroyed your own testicles on your own and not under medical advice. How do you expect a doctor to trust you afterward?

This goes for all of us. Doctors treat us on trust that we follow their advice or at least listen to their advice. When you come to them with a history of actions harmful to your body and then say "trust me" ... it rings false. Find a sympathetic doctor and start addressing and documenting your desires to change your sex. Build some trust and good will there.

[siobhansmith (imported)]

Thank you for the replies. The reason that I am doing it this way is that I simpley do not have the money to do it any other way. Believe me, I wish I did so that I could get this done surgically.

I believe ganrene only sets in if you keep the bands on too long. Im looking at a period of 12 hours to do this.

[Dave (imported)]

Thank you for the replies. The reason that I am doing it this way is that I simpley do not have the money to do it any other way. Believe me, I wish I did so that I could get this done surgically.

I believe ganrene only sets in if you keep the bands on too long. Im looking at a period of 12 hours to do this.

Not only will the testicles be dead, the sack will be dead also. Think about that. You and I are not doctors or surgeons and aren't capable of cutting the dead sack off.

[Hash (imported)]

Well, castr8edmale did it. I think he iced himself good after banding. Pictures are not pretty. Are you sure you want this? It's dangerous.

http://people.tribe.net/d87d3d8a-2214-4 ... d41bd751b6

http://people.tribe.net/d87d3d8a-2214-4 ... 1d28580457

http://people.tribe.net/d87d3d8a-2214-4 ... d016bb4c83

http://people.tribe.net/d87d3d8a-2214-4 ... 9685302c0c

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

I don't know what to say. The very idea of you doing this worries me. I realize that it has been done successfully on ocasion but most often it turns into a disaster for the poor soul who makes the attempt. I agree that cost is an almost insurmountable barrier for most of us who are despairing of ever being testicle free. There are other ways I feel more confident of, although none are hazzard free. If you do such a thing by all means do not do it alone, have a most trusted friend who will get you medical help when you need it, even when you do not ask for help (even when you say not to call for help). Be very sure of your path before you start this or any other do-it-yourself genital alteration. The biggest mistakes are made when we get to feeling hopeless and desperate to change our situation. Whatever happens I wish you good luck. --FLO--

[siobhansmith (imported)]

Ok... reading this HAS made me pause.

So... can someone give me details on how to go about killing my testicles with alchohol please? How it's done, what to use etc, what to do, how much pain...

If I can see that I can do it that way, then I will - seems to be the concensous and I would be foolish otherwise, it seems

[Caith721 (imported)]

Here's the thread (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=16839) Start from page 25 or 30 and read through to the end. If you have the time and the desire, start from the very first page. Lots of helpful information and links to drawings.

[Losethem (imported)]

Thank you for the replies. The reason that I am doing it this way is that I simpley do not have the money to do it any other way. Believe me, I wish I did so that I could get this done surgically.

I believe ganrene only sets in if you keep the bands on too long. Im looking at a period of 12 hours to do this.

I'm going to give you the one piece of advice you said you would ignore - DON'T DO THIS, especially using the method quoted above. If you leave those bands on for 12-hours things inside your scrotum will become toxic to your body. The second you take that band off (12-hours later) you are going to be exposing the rest of your body to all those toxins that have built up in your sac. You are going to be asking for a huge health issue.

If you think you can simply kill your balls then take the band off and live a happy and carefree life, you're mistaken. If you have banded tight enough to kill your testicles, you've also banded tight enough to kill your scrotum and you'll likely end up being incredibly ill, or worse, dead.

The best thing you can do at this point is not to do this, but if you decide to take leave of your senses, then at least be smart enough to leave the band on and go to your local emergency clinic after it is done.

--LT

[clysmaniac (imported)]

Alcohol injections work very effectively to kill off the testes. Total costs of materials needed should be about $40 for a box of 100 syringes and a bottle of Everclear or 100 proof vodka. I know it worked for me when I didn't see any way to get castrated safely within some other criteria we had. My testes became very small and hard, were totally numb and produced no testosterone. Best part of all was when my doctor discovered their condition, he referred me to a urologist and they were eventually removed.

You will regret doing a banding to completion, especially if you need the scrotum for parts later.

[siobhansmith (imported)]

Ok. I'm convinced. I'll still, possibly, have a couple of questions, but I would be very foolish to go against the large amount of advice and experience on this site. I have, therefore, contacted the guy and, with thanks, cancelled our meet.

So, expect me to ask lots soon...

thank you to all who replied.

sio

[feedback (imported)]

That is a very wise decision. I used the alcohol method and it worked well for me. All I have left are 2 small hard testicles that ride very high in the scrotum.

[James_vanguard (imported)]

I found http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Klamp9436/

gave me all the contacts I need.

[SplitDik (imported)]

Since voluntary castration is not really supported in the medical community especially for non-transsexuals, I understand why you would choose to attempt this.

However, I strongly suggest you still want a doctor to do the actual removal and "clean up".

Therefore, if anyone is going to do anything to themselves they shouldn't aim for self-removal. Instead, you just want to damage them sufficiently that removal becomes a medical necessity and then a doctor will remove them.

So, if you're going to go the banding route, then what you want to do is just band them long enough such that they are sure to be dead, and then go to the ER and they will get removed properly.

With banding, testicles are surprisingly resilient. If you read up on testicular torsion (medical condition where blood supply to the testicles gets cut off), the testicles can go for up to 24 hours without bloodflow before they are 100% non-viable. Even 12 hours is not enough -- there is 50% they will still be alive. Also note that this requires full restriction of bloodflow (partial restriction may not be enough).

So, I would suggest the following. Band yourself for minimum of 24 hours with a proper castration bander (calcitrate, or good elastrator), then go to the ER.

I would in no way consider cutting them off yourself -- you will end up with all sorts of problems and dangers. For example, how will the nerve and spermatic cord ends be properly tied off? You don't want those causing pain forever. What if the band slips off after you've done the cut and you start bleeding to death? How are you going to close up the scrotum such that it heals properly and doesn't get infected? These are things that only a doctor knows how to do.

The other advice to consider:

Have you tried SSRI medication? I tried to castrate myself for years, and then was prescribed SSRIs and the desire basically went away. Castration fetish can be indication of brain or hormonal imbalance. Try to fix that first.

Banding actually hurts a lot. I'm a pain slut and the maximum I could go was 3 hours. At first you don't even feel it, but then an intense ache arises in your abdomen. If you're going to go through with this, you probably need to be restrained in some sort of BDSM type setting because I doubt even dedicated eunuch-wannabes can withstand this type of pain for the needed 24 hours.

If you go into ER with any self-harm you will have to see a psychiatrist. In a city hospital you'll be treated well (they've seen it all), but in small or rural hospitals you might get an over-reaction from them. To avoid being labeled a risk to yourself (they can put you in mental hospital forcibly) you may want to lie and say you did it by accident while trying to maintain an erection and then got to embarrassed to see a doctor until it was too late.

[Hash (imported)]

siobhansmith - I do not know your economic situation, however, I would not go the alcohol injection route either. I suggest, since your info blog states that you identify as a female, that you see a female counselor or psychologist to see if they can set you up for an orchietomy. I am also not sure what the medical requirement is in the UK to obtain an orchi, but safety should be your first concern. As a eunuch, I'm really lucky to be alive, I did some things that could have killed me. So if you're transgendered you might be able to get castrated medically by a professional in the UK. If not, you might try taking a flight to Thailand and seeking out a professional there for your castration.

http://www.health-tourism.com/orchiectomy/thailand/

[_g (imported)]

Thank you for the replies. The reason that I am doing it this way is that I simpley do not have the money to do it any other way. Believe me, I wish I did so that I could get this done surgically.

I believe ganrene only sets in if you keep the bands on too long. Im looking at a period of 12 hours to do this.

You have done your research!! 12 hours does not guaranty castration! Look up testicular torsion. You are asking for problems! other than being castrated!

_g

[siobhansmith (imported)]

Um, already said Im not going through with it....

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

was the group helpful in getting castrated

what method did you finally use

I found http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Klamp9436/

gave me all the contacts I need.

[James_vanguard (imported)]

Oh no! my dad wlked n on m3 on ths site!!!!!!!!!!!

Im n so mch sht!!!!!!!

Shoutinnnng. arguments... almost hd 2 stnd n th crner. shrink in the mrnng.

Boot cmp 4 m3 !!!!!!!!!!!

[Losethem (imported)]

Umm... you're an adult. I doubt in the UK that he can force you to do anything you don't want to do. Although he does have some leverage in that it seems that you're living in his home.

Think of it this way, lots of shouting and screaming, but the secret is out. Perhaps it will be a good thing in the end.

I know that parents are usually concerned about having grandchildren, and at your age that might be their huge concern. If you wait to get anything done until you have a kid, then it won't matter ultimately as it would be your life choice. Heck, even if you didn't want to have a kid, it's still YOUR life choice.

Don't let it get to you, and if you don't want to go to a shrink, DON'T!

--LT

[Riverwind (imported)]

Oh no! my dad wlked n on m3 on ths site!!!!!!!!!!!

Im n so mch sht!!!!!!!

Shoutinnnng. arguments... almost hd 2 stnd n th crner. shrink in the mrnng.

Boot cmp 4 m3 !!!!!!!!!!!

This may be good if your texting but here it would be nice for those of us who don't text, to spell everything out. Its not hard, you need to use vowels there are only 5 of them.

River