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Hi to you all. I am a 47 year old male. I want to loose my ability to get errections. I have tried Chemical Castration.. Depo-provera 150mg. Estroderm 100 mgs. premarin 5mgs daily. I even injected directley into my balls 150 mgs each of depo-provera. OUCH it hurt for a week. I can not do that again. I do not have alot of money but these testicles must go!!! I am seeking coments, and any help I can get. I live in Cleve. Ohio Is there anyone out there who can comment on injections to the testicles? Does anyone know of a chemical called Chem-cast for castration by injection to calfs. I would like to do this quickly and very quietly. Please help me out here. prncalexe
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TimDrake (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2002 9:31 pm Hi to you all. I am a 47 year old male. I want to loose my ability to get errections. I have tried Chemical Castration.. Depo-provera 150mg. Estroderm 100 mgs. premarin 5mgs daily. I even injected directley into my balls 150 mgs each of depo-provera. OUCH it hurt for a week. I can not do that again. I do not have alot of money but these testicles must go!!! I am seeking coments, and any help I can get. I live in Cleve. Ohio Is there anyone out there who can comment on injections to the testicles? Does anyone know of a chemical called Chem-cast for castration by injection to calfs. I would like to do this quickly and very quietly. Please help me out here. prncalexe

How much money have you been spending on those chemicals? I ask because you might want to consider a large one-shot expense and visit Drs. Spector and Kimmel in Philadelphia for your castration. Failing that, we have several members of the Eunuch Archives who have used Androcur with excellent results, and I am sure they will be posting in this thread soon.

By the way, Depo-provera into the testicles doesn't work. It has to be injected into the buttocks. And Depo-lupron is what Dr. Kimmel has prescribed at times.

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Thankyou for your reply!!!!! i am taking androcur which i failed to mention. i take 150mgs in am and 150 at night. Now i have only been doing this for about a month and a week now. I also recently got Aldactone but haven't tried that. If Dr. Spector was around the corner I would have been done with it, but would have to pay him a third a third and a third. prncalexe
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TimDrake (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2002 9:31 pm Hi to you all. I am a 47 year old male. I want to loose my ability to get errections. I have tried Chemical Castration.. Depo-provera 150mg. Estroderm 100 mgs. premarin 5mgs daily. I even injected directley into my balls 150 mgs each of depo-provera. OUCH it hurt for a week. I can not do that again. I do not have alot of money but these testicles must go!!! I am seeking coments, and any help I can get. I live in Cleve. Ohio Is there anyone out there who can comment on injections to the testicles? Does anyone know of a chemical called Chem-cast for castration by injection to calfs. I would like to do this quickly and very quietly. Please help me out here. prncalexe

I have used a combination of Aldactone, Estroderm and oral estrodiol and it took me about 8 weeks to feel the effects you want to achive. I have read others posts here about Androcur, and it seems to work faster, but I can not give you advice on that. If you want to see immediate results I would suspect that physical castration is your only answer. Give it a little more time as what you are taking now should give you results very soon.

Androcur is much more expensive than Aldactone. I would consider switching to Aldactone to save some money for Drs. Spector and Kimmel also.

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Dear Chris: Thankyou for your help. I am investigating a nurse, cutter, or MD. I am glad for the encouragement. I will keep on going. I would really like to acheive chemical castration and have to be that way for a while before I get my testicles cut off for good. I really do not seek transition but I seek the total loss and ability to get erections. So thankyou, and I will keep on going. prncalexe
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Androcur The drug of choice

I have been taking Androcur for just short of a year. The most I ever took was 200 mg per day, 100 in the AM and again at night. You should see results in just over a week. You will notice loss of erections first, then sex drive over time. You will also experience night sweats, hot flashes, sore nipples in the first three months or so. All in all I really like the effect, I checked with my doctor and he did the blood tests for everything and you should also. He checked liver and Testosterone count. Mine is 35. = Eunuch.

Be careful, make sure you have a doctor monitoring your activities. Dr Kimmel is a good choice for castration at $2000. He will be doing mine Sept 6th. :) :) :) :) :)
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Thankyou for your reply. Maybe it's just my damm high libido. I take 200mgs of androcur and i can get an erection if i play with myself. i mean it may not be good for much but it still responds. i dont get hot flashes chills or sweats. Dont know why i just dont. I read that it can take a while for the blood levels to get large enough to work for some of us. jeff
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TimDrake (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2002 1:03 am Thankyou for your reply. Maybe it's just my damm high libido. I take 200mgs of androcur and i can get an erection if i play with myself. i mean it may not be good for much but it still responds. i dont get hot flashes chills or sweats. Dont know why i just dont. I read that it can take a while for the blood levels to get large enough to work for some of us. jeff

Hello again,

I would like to add a few comments here. It seems you may have a bit of confusion as to what castration, be it physical or chemical, can do for you. Yes, a EUNUCH can have erections if physicaly stimulated. What does decrease is the labido and the spontaneous and nocturnal erections. I had a high labido also, and have been on HRT for over a year and the desire fell off to nothing, but the curiosity has gotten the better of me and I am still able to have an erection, although not as firm as before. The first time I knew the HRT was working, was when I would wake up without that "morning woody", from then on I have enjoyed the "eunuch calm" so many have talked about here. Have you read some of Andrew's postings, he has some links to Sherry Joane's website: The effects of Castration. It is very informative reading.

As far as hot flashes, chills and night sweats, you may or may not have them. I do not get them, and if I have, they go unoticed. This is another, and I quote from Andrew again, "Your Milage May Vary" thing. Some get them, some do not. I hope this has cleared up some of the confusion as to what castration will do for you.

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CT212 (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2002 11:45 am Have you read some of Andrew's postings, he has some links to Sherry Joane's website: The effects of Castration. It is very informative reading.

Sherry's web pages

Is Castration right for you?

http://www.geocities.com/sherrylanina/C ... ctors.html

The Effects Of Castration

http://www.geocities.com/sherrylanina/C ... fects.html

Surgeons who perform castrations

http://www.geocities.com/sherrylanina/C ... ndWho.html

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Thank's for helping out on this one.

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CT212 (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2002 11:45 am As far as hot flashes, chills and night sweats, you may or may not have them. I do not get them, and if I have, they go unoticed. This is another, and I quote from Andrew again, "Your Milage May Vary" thing. Some get them, some do not. I hope this has cleared up some of the confusion as to what castration will do for you.

Chris

During the first 13 months after my castration, I was bothered by frequent (every hour or so) and annoying hot flashes. Had to spend a few minutes fanning away. Then I started low-level estrogen HRT six weks ago. Now the hot flashes are less frequent, and not as intense.

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Thankyou for you knowledge. My breasts are enlarging a bit, dont really want that, but you are correct. Errections are not real stiff, just kinda there. As far as that Mellow feeling I hope to acheve that soon. I was also told that if i continue injections of Estridil into my testicles for about 4- 6 weeks my balls will turn into rasins. don't know about this one. The last time it hurt for a week. Again thanks for your input. I have read sherry's writtings many times. Jeffrey Miller
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TimDrake (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2002 9:01 pm I was also told that if i continue injections of Estridil into my testicles for about 4- 6 weeks my balls will turn into rasins. don't know about this one.

Really?

I am very curious to know if that will work -- my gut tells me it won't, but please keep us posted on your progress!

Since I have been taking glandulars, and now, estrogen, (estradiol) my penis has def. become the small part of my package and I'm still disappointed with the size of my balls and when they hang. I would just like them to go up into the body and stay there - or shrink --> maybe to raisin size would be ideal.

This morning I felt that I could measure just the slightest shrinkage of my balls by cupping the scrotum (and I woke up with it nice and tight). I believe that my balls come down during the late morning and afternoon because of the heat of the day; it will be interesting to see what happens in the winter.

Good luck!

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Hi Jim: Well i have done one injection of 150mgs of depo-provera into each testicle. The first thing that happens is that they get real hard becasue you are forcing liquid into an inclosed area. The next thing that happened is that i began to feel like i was kicked in the balls. This went on for a week. It' is now time to inject again. i am going to use a diabetic syringe this time with estradil injectable. i was told to take as much as i can in each testicle. I am working with a Hospital person from florida. Her son had his balls done this way too. She is instructing me. Now the othe think i notice is my balls are already smaller most likely from the first injections. i am told that eventually they will be come soft and mushey and then like raisins. Good Luck, prncalexe
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My Goodness! With all the pain and injections, etc., wouldn't it just be easier to have them removed? Or do you like the idea of having "mush" or "raisins".

This is not meant to be a challenge... I would really like to know, as I'm sure everyone else would. Also, elsewhere there is a great recipe for Rocky Mountain Oysters -- why not have them cut out whole and enjoy a one-time delicacy?

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Hi Jim! No im not trying to do this painfully. But the key word is descrete, becasue it happens over a period of time. I also understand that eachinjection is a bit less painful and eventually you feel nothing at all as the testicle starts to die. So to be discrete and to be covert, im going to continue it this way. prncalexe
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Well, I understand and support your decisions and choices.

But again: what's it going to be like walking around with "dead testicles?" Is that healthy?

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TimDrake (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2002 10:14 pm Hi Jim: Well i have done one injection of 150mgs of depo-provera into each testicle. The first thing that happens is that they get real hard becasue you are forcing liquid into an inclosed area. The next thing that happened is that i began to feel like i was kicked in the balls. This went on for a week. It' is now time to inject again. i am going to use a diabetic syringe this time with estradil injectable. i was told to take as much as i can in each testicle. I am working with a Hospital person from florida. Her son had his balls done this way too. She is instructing me. Now the othe think i notice is my balls are already smaller most likely from the first injections. i am told that eventually they will be come soft and mushey and then like raisins. Good Luck, prncalexe

Hi, just want to give you a few pointers here. You say that you have been injecting the testacles with depo-provera? From what I understand the proper injection site is the gludious-maximus[your butt]. You may get results, but I am unsure if this method could give you the results you want. One sign of chemical castration is atrophy of the testacles. They will not "die" just atrophy from the lack of testosterone that chemical castration causes. In order for the testacles to die, you must stop the blood supply to them, such as using a Burdizzo clamp to destroy the veins in the spermatic cords. Once the blood supply is detroyed, they will shrink to raisin size because they are dead. After that the body should absorb the dead tissue. This method, although painful, is not recomended because it may not work on humans. It was intended for farm animals, and if done wrong you could end up with permanent testical pain. There have been a couple of posts here on the message board about the use of the burdizzo clamp. Search some of the older posts and you may find them, or maybe someone here can tell you where they can be found.

Chris
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There are several ways to cook such items, but your taste for such needs to be developed, as the different methods produce different tastes.

Personally, I like BBQing them, in a sauce I find has a sweet, tart flavor - but then I am also into making my own BBQ sauces.

If you are really interested in eating such, you should find your self some sauce reciepies, and go from there.
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On the subject of castration, I am approaching my 53rd birthday, and I find that my sex drive has gone from exceptionally low, to almost nil.

I have always been interested in losing my nuts, even as far back as age 10; but back then, it was to stay young and pretty, and not have to go through puberty.

Over the years, I have considered the subject, mainly as I have gotten into trouble for letting my gonads do my thinking for me - although I have never been charged with nor convicted of performing a sex crime.

Now days, finding a reduction in my libido (?) I realize that I either need to find a doctor who can remove my nuts, or a way which i can divest myself of those two miserable marbels.
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Erik Hansen (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2002 5:19 pm Now days, finding a reduction in my libido (?) I realize that I either need to find a doctor who can remove my nuts, or a way which i can divest myself of those two miserable marbels.

As far as I know, the only doctors who will do a castration for you are Spector and Kimmel, to be found at...

http://www.felixspector.com/

There might be other doctors willing to do it, but you would have to hunt around and be persistent.

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Dear Jim: You know it's to bad that we don't have any doctors here to help us out. You would think that there are a few that might be interested and maybe even castrated themselves. As i understand this. If you where taking hormone therapy after about 6 monts or so your testicles shrink also. I liken this to that. I have been told it would be wise to have them removed in total. Prncalexe
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Thanks for the link - Andrew - you are most helpful. BTW, I recently posted a story in two parts to the Eunuch Archives.

It is fiction, and I invite you to let me know if you like it.

It is my first attempt to publish any thing in this realm online; although I have published similar stories through a company called "Star Distribution", who handles much in the world of hard copy XXX books and magazines.
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Not to interrupt your discussion, but it is my understanding, that as long as there are no breaks in the skin covering the "dead testicles", one's body will reasorbe the tissue, which should not pose much problems, like it would if the covering is allowed to develope an opening to allow outside air-borne particles to enter and infect the non-living tissue.

However, one should write Dr. Spector, to find out if this is really the case, since most of my knowledge has come from watching young male animals get denutted, without losing their nut sack. :D

Personally, there is no way I could ever use a needle to inject anything into my body, since I seem to have an unhealthy fear of such implements of Torture. I wish I could understand this problem, since it often puts me in the position where my health really suffers.; but there seems to be no doctors with whom I can discuss this.
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