My urology appointment

[Hash (imported)]

Went to my appointment today to see my new female urologist. She was of small build and pretty. She examined me and was a little bewildered by the ring in my glans and felt around what was left of my scrotum. She squeezed the chords and asked me if there was any pain. I told her there was especially the right side. Then she told me to bend over and she examined my prostate. When finished she said, it's small as I expected. Then she reviewed my request which I had written down, a perineal urethrostomy? can't ever spell it right. I want a new pee hole down below where my scrotum was. I told her it was because my split glans and ring makes a mess when I urinate. She then explained the procedure and initially said she could do it, then she walked out to talk with a co-urologist. When she returned she said she would do it if I got a psychologists letter saying I was sane enough to have the operation. I was not happy, but what could I do. I agreed to see a psychologist and have the results sent to her. I'm not sure what to think about this, any thoughts?

[janekane (imported)]

Having decided over 25 years ago that eunuch was as valid a gender identity as any other identity, I put psychologists and psychologists to work, along with surgeons, and other physicians, in getting my needs of cancer-risk-minimization decently met.

I politely decline to be ashamed of my gender identity, just as I politely decline to be ashamed of my life in any way whatsoever.

It is not possible for me to tell what can happen to anyone else with certainty; however, for me, carrying on in the manner of my being a valid person has worked adequately.

[kristoff]

Get the psychological review she wants. It is reassurance for her, and covers her butt legally. Besides, it might be reassuring to know just how much or how little craziness is at home...

[smoothie36 (imported)]

Hash, I had to take my PA out because it was gradually migrating out the bottom of my glans and I was afraid it would rip through as the thickness decreased. I am surprised she was even able to find any cords in your scrotum. Mine vanished about three months after I was castrated, I later had my scrotum cut off and I can not detect any sign of cords. I am interested in having my glans removed. This would be an opportunity for that also, but may not be of interest to you. For those of us who may want a glansectomy could you ask her if she would do that. I have no trouble getting a "letter" if necessary. Thanks and keep us posted.

smoothie

[KimiRhoze (imported)]

I don't honestly think a psych would care less if you have your urethra moved to prevent making a mess while urinating. Seems to me like more of a sanitary issue than a sanity issue

[Eunuken (imported)]

Hash,

I am surprised she was even able to find any cords in your scrotum. Mine vanished about three months after I was castrated, I later had my scrotum cut off and I can not detect any sign of cords.

smoothie

This is something I'm wondering about myself, it appears that my Urologist didn't remove too much of the cord at all and they have moved back down in to the scrotum, I'm wondering if they will atrophy? When I was at the Urologist I neglected to ask him if they would.

Ken

[Hash (imported)]

I should back up and say that she saw a lot of scarring, she saw my "eunuch" tattoo, saw my split glans with the ring in it. I think this must have jaded her decision, maybe that's why she talked with the co-worker too. She was reserved, she might have even been frightened by what she saw, she didn't really smile that I remember. She had a big diamond, it jumped out at you, so she's married. After just one meeting with her, I'm not sure that I really can give her a fair assessment. I don't think she felt very comfortable and I'm not scary. I was polite, courteous, nice, etc., but there I was standing before her, castrated with a shrunken penis asking for an unusual operation. Oh, by the way, she said, "We usually only do these when we do penectomies." I wonder if she's done a penectomy? I didn't think to ask, I was caught off guard. I will get my evaluation and will pursue the operation. One more thing, on the way out she said, "How did you find me? I'm one of only two or three female urologists in Jersey?" I said I was embarrassed to see a male urologist and she said, oh, ok.

P.S. She asked me to lie down, pressed on my stomach area, asked if there was any pain, then had me stand up. She said, "Take your pants down so I can examine you." I'm not sure why she couldn't examine me lying down. Maybe she wanted to see my penis hanging down.

I am wondering if either she or her male co-worker has read or been told about body modification? Hmm

[Hash (imported)]

smoothie,

I'm not sure she would just do a glansectomy without a valid reason. She seems pretty straight laced.

[SplitDik (imported)]

I personally only like doctors who have "seen it all". I usually have good luck with any older doctor that works in a big city. A young doctor, or a rural doctor, usually either has discomfort or personal opinions that get in the way.

I like a doctor with an attitude like the one who wrote this article: http://www.familypracticenews.com/news/ ... ace66.html

[smoothie36 (imported)]

Maybe someone reading this can provide some descriptive information on what is involved in a basic (simplest way possible, no skin graft) glansectomy. Can this be done by a plastic surgeon who does not generally do this procedure? Looking to get this done and doing research. Thanks

[Hash (imported)]

smootie36,

I doubt you'll be able to find a qualified doctor/surgeon to do this surgery here in the U.S. In Thailand, Philippines, India, all you need to do is have the money and ask. Money talks in the Far East, in fact, they'll do almost anything if you've got the money. There's a guy on yahoo.groups who went to Malaysia or Maynamar? and paid to have his penis removed including the roots, his testicles and scrotum. He just has a hole. You might look up nuderthannude on this site, he has slowly removed his glans until it's only attached by a small amount of skin. http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread ... post177746

When I cut under my glans I did small cuts each morning over a period of roughly a week per side. ( I had a vertical shaft piercing dividing the glans) I did the cuts in the morning to give the bleeding a chance to stop before the end of the day. Because the rounded end of the shaft extends past the rim where I cut I cut through the erectile tissue of the shaft. At one point (on each side) I cut through an artery as blood sprayed out in a stream. Direct pressure for about 5 minutes stopped it but I had to be careful because if I disturbed the clot it bled a lot again for a bit. Eventually it healed closed.

I have read from a reliable medical source that death from blood loss when the penis is cut off is rare. I believe the arteries contract some when cut through. Yeah there will be a lot of blood loss but pressure or compression will stop it and allow for clotting. The trick is to keep it from restarting by not disturbing the clot until enough healing takes place. I know an individual who cut his penis off and waited till the next morning to go to the ER and get stitches.

[smoothie36 (imported)]

Hash,

You're a braver man than I. The process you described is beyond my comfort level for sure. I keep checking around and asking and hope something works out. I will ask my plastic surgeon in early Decemer when I am there next.

smoothie

[Hash (imported)]

smoothie36,

I'm not that brave, the process I described was completed by nuderthannude.

[Hash (imported)]

Had my appointment with my psychologist last night. She said she thinks I'm sane or at least my request for my perineal urethostomy (might be mis-spelled) isn't crazy. She's going to fax her findings to my urologist tomorrow. We talked about castration, being a eunuch, body modification, removal of testosterone and my being happy to be a eunuch, she was intrigued and asked lots of questions. She was interested in what it was like to be castrated and I told her that after I was castrated, my personality actually changed. That I became less angry, more calm, more emotional, etc. This is a psychologist who had published the following articles: Sex offender treatment in New Jersey's incarcerated settings and Assessment and treatment of adult sex offenders, New Jersey Psychologist. I told her that being castrated was one of the best things to happen to me. I wonder if she'll ever use this in any upcoming article? She also asked a lot of questions about body modification, seemed very interested. She asked for an example and so I told her about subincisions and that made her grimace. I told her about men who castate themselves or have others castrate them. I even mentioned this website and I wonder if she took a look or if she will. She didn't realize that there is a eunuch community of men who want to be castrated and have been castrated. It was compelling to her.

She also talked about arousal and wanted to know what might arouse me. I thought this a little strange but I told her that because I'm castrated nothing arouses me sexually. She sat back in her chair. I said, "Once you're castrated there's no motivation or stimulus for arousal" or something like that. I don't think she could fully understand that and if you're not castrated, maybe that is hard to comprehend. I wish I would have taped my session with her, but I didn't. It's hard to remember all that we discussed. It was kind of uplifting for me to talk to a woman about being castrated, being a eunuch and as I said, she was intrigued by my condition. We did talk about hormones a lot too. Well, if I think about anything else, I'll add it. I'm anticipating hearing from my urologist and getting my operation. I have about 1/3 of my scrotum remaining and would like it all removed, but I'm afraid to ask because I don't want to jeopardize her willingness to do my operation, but I probably will. I'd like to be completely smooth down below.

[Eunuchus (imported)]

Had my appointment with my psychologist last night. She said she thinks I'm sane or at least my request for my perineal urethostomy (might be mis-spelled) isn't crazy. She's going to fax her findings to my urologist tomorrow. We talked about castration, being a eunuch, body modification, removal of testosterone and my being happy to be a eunuch, she was intrigued and asked lots of questions. She was interested in what it was like to be castrated and I told her that after I was castrated, my personality actually changed. That I became less angry, more calm, more emotional, etc. This is a psychologist who had published the following articles: Sex offender treatment in New Jersey's incarcerated settings and Assessment and treatment of adult sex offenders, New Jersey Psychologist. I told her that being castrated was one of the best things to happen to me. I wonder if she'll ever use this in any upcoming article? She also asked a lot of questions about body modification, seemed very interested. She asked for an example and so I told her about subincisions and that made her grimace. I told her about men who castate themselves or have others castrate them. I even mentioned this website and I wonder if she took a look or if she will. She didn't realize that there is a eunuch community of men who want to be castrated and have been castrated. It was compelling to her.

She also talked about arousal and wanted to know what might arouse me. I thought this a little strange but I told her that because I'm castrated nothing arouses me sexually. She sat back in her chair. I said, "Once you're castrated there's no motivation or stimulus for arousal" or something like that. I don't think she could fully understand that and if you're not castrated, maybe that is hard to comprehend. I wish I would have taped my session with her, but I didn't. It's hard to remember all that we discussed. It was kind of uplifting for me to talk to a woman about being castrated, being a eunuch and as I said, she was intrigued by my condition. We did talk about hormones a lot too. Well, if I think about anything else, I'll add it. I'm anticipating hearing from my urologist and getting my operation.

Congratulations on finding a psychologist that is open minded. I will have to look up her published articles.

Good luck, I hope this satisfies your urologist.

[Losethem (imported)]

This is something I'm wondering about myself, it appears that my Urologist didn't remove too much of the cord at all and they have moved back down in to the scrotum, I'm wondering if they will atrophy? When I was at the Urologist I neglected to ask him if they would.

Ken

Ken, when my testicles were removed they were taken off close the point where the cord attached. You will be able to feel your spermatic cords up inside your scrotum, but they will likely not hang down in your scrotum but sit up closer to the base of your penis. you should be able to feel for them if you wish, but I've not had much in the way of problems with this. I think the past 6 years since my castration I've only had very minor issues once or twice, and those were feeling a slight jab when I was erect at "half mast" I think the cord or cords in those cases simply got a bit pinched against other tissues inside next the firmer tissues of my penis due to the partial erection.

So far, it's not been a problem I've felt needs to be addressed and I simply readjust myself and the pain ends instantly.

That's my experience, yours may be different.

--LT

[unencumbered (imported)]

She also talked about arousal and wanted to know what might arouse me. I thought this a little strange but I told her that because I'm castrated nothing arouses me sexually. She sat back in her chair. I said, "Once you're castrated there's no motivation or stimulus for arousal" or something like that. I don't think she could fully understand... It was kind of uplifting for me to talk to a woman about being castrated, being a eunuch and as I said, she was intrigued by my condition.

A phenomenon that I quickly noticed was the inability to have involuntary or voluntary sexual dreams at night, which normally would stimulate me. On the rare occasions that my wife and I decide to have sex, there is no anticipation of it. Today is more of a matter of fact thing to do and to enjoy for the moment and then to forget about. There's no more thinking of when I had sex last and planning when will I have it again. Like Hash, I do enjoy speaking about my lack of being able to become sexually aroused, without manual stimulation, with a female (my wife), who is appreciative of the change. Being a female, my wife doesn't fully understand the driving force that sex normally is to a male so my significantly reduced libido is more normal for her.

[Hash (imported)]

When and if my urologist now agrees to do my perineal urethrostomy, I'd like to seal off the forward part of my urethra since no fluid will be coming out of it. I'm wondering if the urethra above the perineal urethrostomy will close up or if I can fill it up with medical grade silicone and then stitch the tip close? My glans was split in half and apparently from what I was told, it would be a very difficult operation to reverse what I had done. Irregardless, I'd still like to have the glans sewn shut, but I guess it wouldn't ever heal. Then I'm wondering since there won't be any fluid coming out of the tip ever again, why it wouldn't dry out the unused urethra and then collapse?

[nuderthannude (imported)]

The urethra will not close up on it's own after a urethral reroute. I had hoped for the same but realized it wasn't happening after I did my reroute. I closed off my unused part by putting hair remover on a Q-tip and inserted it into my urethra to remove the inner layer of skin. I then used a brass 22 caliber rifle cleaning brush to scrape the inside. Surprisingly it wasn't very painful. I had to repeat that 3 times as each time it healed the opening was smaller until the last time it healed closed completely. You can see some photos here http://people.tribe.net/41447771-c140-4 ... tos?page=4 and on the next page

[Hash (imported)]

I'd still like to fill it up with silicone and stitch the tip close.

[YodaNell (imported)]

Ken, when my testicles were removed they were taken off close the point where the cord attached. You will be able to feel your spermatic cords up inside your scrotum, but they will likely not hang down in your scrotum but sit up closer to the base of your penis. you should be able to feel for them if you wish, but I've not had much in the way of problems with this. I think the past 6 years since my castration I've only had very minor issues once or twice, and those were feeling a slight jab when I was erect at "half mast" I think the cord or cords in those cases simply got a bit pinched against other tissues inside next the firmer tissues of my penis due to the partial erection.So far, it's not been a problem I've felt needs to be addressed and I simply readjust myself and the pain ends instantly.That's my experience, yours may be different.

--LTWhen I was castrated in the hospital, the uro fixed my spermatic cord to the inside wall of my scrotum.

Now, after my penectomy, the uro must have removed the cords very close to the bladder, because i've explored my whole pubic area right down to the anus and cannot find anything. I like that!

[Hash (imported)]

Hi Yoda,

It's been awhile since I've heard from you. How are you doing and what's been happening to you?

[YodaNell (imported)]

Hi Yoda,

It's been awhile since I've heard from you. How are you doing and what's been happening to you?

Hey Hash, very good I must say. Just very busy. It's Advent time and the show must carry on.

I'm still in ecstacy being a nullo. I can't believe how easily I've adapted without a penis. It's really not bad at all. I like touching down there and feel the smooth area. There are times (few) that the reality strikes be where I realize the I can never have sex with a woman again. But, hey, then I remind myself that THAT was/is my goal. I have, however, NO sexual frustration. I cannot remember the feel of my penis, which is a great advantage.

I am planning to remove the stump and roots as well, maybe in January. Orgasm is still far to easy and sexual stimulation is also far to much . I want ZERO sexual ability a nd feelings.

Good to hear from you.

[Mac (imported)]

Hey Hash, very good I must say. Just very busy. It's Advent time and the show must carry on.

I'm still in ecstacy being a nullo. I can't believe how easily I've adapted without a penis. It's really not bad at all. I like touching down there and feel the smooth area. There are times (few) that the reality strikes be where I realize the I can never have sex with a woman again. But, hey, then I remind myself that THAT was/is my goal. I have, however, NO sexual frustration. I cannot remember the feel of my penis, which is a great advantage.

I am planning to remove the stump and roots as well, maybe in January. Orgasm is still far to easy and sexual stimulation is also far to much . I want ZERO sexual ability a nd feelings.

Good to hear from you.

It is good to hear from you and glad that you are doing well. Please keep us updated.