Penis shrinkage due to zero testosterone

[johnegare (imported)]

There is no such thing as "Zero Testosterone," since the Adrenal Glands produce a very low level. Even males with bilateral anorchia usually have female levels of Testosterone (15 to 70 ng/dl).

I'm a eunuch. Born with bilateral anorchia. I am usually on HRT and have Testosterone levels ~750, depending on my dosage. However, once in my adult life, for a variety of reasons, I went without Testosterone for over six months. My levels fell to ~40.

I think everybody's physiology is different, so i can only speak for what happened to me. My penis became a small nub (when I returned to HRT, it eventually regained its "normal" size). Male Secondary Sex Characteristics began to go away. I only had to shave once a week (and sometimes I did that just because I thought I "should"). I stopped growing other body hair so my legs and chest started to become bare as no new hair grew to replace hair that fell out or was rubbed away by clothing, etc. Interestingly enough, my Male Pattern Baldness began to reverse and the person who cuts my hair asked what was going on.

So, I'll just stop there. Happy to answer any other questions.

[madnomadtoo (imported)]

For some time now I have been going to the Southwest Milwaukee YMCA, 3 times a week for exercise. I go in the morning when the place is flooded with Senior Citizens. Trust me, these men all walk around the lock room, shower area, heated whirlpool and Sauna stark naked. And I have determined after two years of watching, Ain't none of them hung. These Senior Citizens with low amounts of T all have Tiny penis. And 90% of the are circumcized and 100% of them all have tiny penis.

I love this post. Meant to chime in at the time but got distracted. My take:

In high school, back when high-tech meant a mechanical pencil, all the guys in the locker room shower were circumcised, with six-inch hard-ons. A boy dared to be nude only with an acceptable penis. I never showered.

Five years later -- Drafted! A year in 'Nam. Now no one had a hard-on, and dicks came in all sizes. Ah HA! Large penises were extremely rare, practically non-existent, while short ones were beginning to assert themselves. 20% had foreskins, a club where I could finally belong.

Zip ahead ten years. College night courses, packed with middle-aged men majoring in the GI Bill. Swim class. A few "average" members hung around in the dressing room, but most of the graying dudes looked like a wee drawer knob had been screwed into the groin just above the scrotum. Having lost my prepuce to an infection in the interim, I finally fit right in.

BANG! Ten more years. Married. The wife and I visited clothing-optional beaches, where most of the males dangled ax handles from their pubes. I did not fit in again, and my wife for some reason didn't care. The point was plain: "clothing-optional" is commonly practiced only by the uncommon.

Years of happiness, then that day of heartbreak, and I am that widower with no balls, withered by random periods of T deprivation. Now in the recliner, binoculars ready, I enjoy my dick watching hobby. Ssssshhhhhhh... *No sudden moves* Look!! The American Bald-Headed Pecker is trying to poke its head out...

Morning. Dang. Dozed off and missed it.

[Freddyjack (imported)]

since naturally occurring estrogen increases with stopping testosterone, is it the loss of testosterone or the increase in estrogen that causes the penis to shrink?

[nutless1 (imported)]

I was told by my doctor that low testosterone will lead to shrinkage of the penis over time because erections are necessary to prevent shrinkage of the penis, and without night time erections during sleep or causing manual erections is the fuel lacking to prevent penis shrinkage.

since naturally occurring estrogen increases with stopping testosterone, is it the loss of testosterone or the increase in estrogen that causes the penis to shrink?

[paring (imported)]

since naturally occurring estrogen increases with stopping testosterone, is it the loss of testosterone or the increase in estrogen that causes the penis to shrink?

Both, lack of testosterone and estrogen will lead to shrinkage. Estrogens, especially the synthetic ones aren't that good for health. Estrogens are linked to obesity and cancer.

[paring (imported)]

JaneKane?....Is there a corelation with apoptosis and the degeneration of cells due to the natural loss of telomere's or as I call it random allele data on the ends of the chromatids?

Cell division isn'ta perfect process. Each time the enzyme telomerase acts during the final stages of mitosis the process strips the ends of the chromatid each and every time. sorta live shaving it off. The danger being if we expend these protective caps from our DNA sequence.

How is Testosterone related to this process?

Further more Isn't estrogen related to this aswell?

Because my understanding is that both hormones will cause cancer

Also worth noting that different people have longer telomere sequences than others.

I read a paper a while back that centenarians who have a long history of no cancer tend to have longer telomere protective cap sequences in there dna?

It would be nice to hear feed back from you. I quit university by the time I finished organic chemistry, instead devouting my pursuit with engineering. But I always had my hunches about this dillema.

NB = In a perfect world, we live to chase our wildest dreams. However in an imperfect world the best we can do is to strive to reach whats possible

Im no expert in the field of biology, heck I got a C when I finished organic chemistry.

Truth is it was getting me no where. I had to change my career plans

You're really foxy! I lost all faith in medicine. As far as I'm concerned, medicine is the most gigantic scam of history and that include also the pharmaceuticals companies and physicians are just pushers for the latest. I say this based on my own experience. My GP has treated me during 10 years and my health issues kept worsening during tha period of time. At the end, I was on my way to kidney faillure due to medications. That is when, I decided to take my health into my own hands. Guess what, all my health problems were solved within months without any medication. All I had to do was to follow naturopaths advices on Google and YouTube. I've learned a lot about natural health during the last 5 years. If you guys want to know more about the medical scam I fore mentioned, there is a series of 9 videos explaining this scam about cancer and that also apply to all other diseases. Here is the link : "thetruthaboutcancer.tv"

[MikeGrant (imported)]

I am always a little skeptical of things that need my name and email to provide free access. Are the videos already posted on YouTube?

[Paolo]

That's from a very old post. We're pretty certain that JaneKane has passed away.

[paring (imported)]

No, it's about guy who went around the world to investigate the health system after he lost many members of his family to cancer. This video isn't on You Tube and I'm not sure how long it will remain available. Many of the people interviewed in this documentary, already have videos of their own on YouTube and they are well known figure, some are physicians, naturopaths, chemists, pharmacists, oncologist and so on. All denounce the medical fraud. As far as I'm concerned it's the biggest scam of our history. Watch one of the video and you'll never look at physicians the same way as you used to. These videos accuse directly the Carnegie and Rockefeller families who put up the medical universities to advantage their own business. We can call this the medical mafia. If these videos were on YouTube they wouldn't last long because they attack the Illuminati.

Watch it, you won't regret it. Every time a new video will be edited they will let you know, that's why they need your email.

[Paolo]

paring, I am sure that a lot of people think you're crazy for believing in the Illuminati.

I am NOT one of them.

[OneBallBoi (imported)]

Shrunk.. That is an understatement. I even told my urologist that I thought I had the smallest penis in the world. His response to me. Don't feel badly mine is just as small. And yes it is rare when I have a woody.. Very rare.

[seanthomas (imported)]

I don't know that I can contribute more to this, other than my own experience. For six months after my surgical castration I was not on testosterone. I recall in that time I only had maybe one spontaneous morning erection, but I could quite easily stimulate one and masturbated about once a week, often with just a partial hard on. So weekly erections and even partial erections seemed to have staved off any shrinkage. I'm currently on a very low dose of testosterone cypionate (50ml twice monthly and about to drop it to 30ml) and still masturbate about once a week so have lost nothing size wise.

[Jorge2008 (imported)]

You're married so why did you undergo surgical castration?

I don't know that I can contribute more to this, other than my own experience. For six months after my surgical castration I was not on testosterone. I recall in that time I only had maybe one spontaneous morning erection, but I could quite easily stimulate one and masturbated about once a week, often with just a partial hard on. So weekly erections and even partial erections seemed to have staved off any shrinkage. I'm currently on a very low dose of testosterone cypionate (50ml twice monthly and about to drop it to 30ml) and still masturbate about once a week so have lost nothing size wise.

[seanthomas (imported)]

You're married so why did you undergo surgical castration?

Yes, I'm married but can't see why that has anything to do with a man choosing to be castrated and I'm certain there are more than a few married eunuchs. My wife was incredibly supportive, actually enthusiastic, about the procedure and is quite happy with the results. Honestly I think a lot of middle aged women would secretly love to have their husband neutered if for no other reason than to keep them from seeking younger sexual companions. Since my castration our love-life has significantly improved. She says I am more attentive to her desires and far more romantic. By not feeling the rush to cum myself I give her a lot more attention and always make sure she is fully satisfied first. Since going through menopause she only wanted sex about once a month but would "accommodate" me four or five times a week before my castration. Ironically, now that my over active libido is significantly reduced, she wants sex at least once a week - and she gets it! Finally, by embracing my physical differences it has given her the ability to resolve, overcome and be comfortable with, her own body identity and acceptance issues. So maybe this brings up a good subject: "Castration to improve your marriage".

[sparkey49 (imported)]

I am also married almost 37 years and am not sure either why it would exempt someone from wanting to be castrated. I have been a eunuch for almost 5 years and 2.5 of that no T and our relationship is good as ever including 2 children and 4 grandkids.mine shrunk by a little over a third in length and girth and didn't regain much after T but can get harder than when no T.

[Randonmech (imported)]

Shrinkage

While I am at just 6 months. I have noticed massive shrikage. I lost at least 40% in length and a good 30% in girth. If cold its just a small button. I have lost the ability to get erections all together. That being said I am ok with that.