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knightbird111 (imported)
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penectomy questions
Does a person lose the valve that controls urination after a penectomy? Meaning the person will urinate and not have any control of holding it in etc.....?
Are there any doctors that perform penectomys in the USA, or any other country?
Are there any doctors that perform penectomys in the USA, or any other country?
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I am absolutely not an expert, but I believe, if your penectomy is done by a qualified surgeon, they leave those muscles intact. I saw a video of a full penectomy once, and I seem to remember the surgeon pointing out those control muscles, and separating them from the rest of the tissue to be removed.
If it is a full penectomy, with no stump remaining, I believe this would be the case. Though from the trauma of the surgery, I would guess you would need a catheter until things healed enough for the muscles to work again as they should.
If you are leaving a stump, then I guess that the muscles to control your bladder would be untouched. They are well inside your pelvis, and not inside the penis. I believe they are much deeper where the internal base of the penis meets the badder.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong about this.
If it is a full penectomy, with no stump remaining, I believe this would be the case. Though from the trauma of the surgery, I would guess you would need a catheter until things healed enough for the muscles to work again as they should.
If you are leaving a stump, then I guess that the muscles to control your bladder would be untouched. They are well inside your pelvis, and not inside the penis. I believe they are much deeper where the internal base of the penis meets the badder.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong about this.
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It may well be another of those Your Mileage Will Vary thngs. Lack of bladder control was a common complaint about both Chinese and Middle Eastern eunuchs, both of whom had penectomies. Self-surgery (or amateur surgery by a cutter) would, of course, be far more likely to end in problems than surgery by a competent physician who would try to protect the relevant sphincter and muscles.
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JesusA wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:58 am It may well be another of those Your Mileage Will Vary thngs. Lack of bladder control was a common complaint about both Chinese and Middle Eastern eunuchs, both of whom had penectomies. Self-surgery (or amateur surgery by a cutter) would, of course, be far more likely to end in problems than surgery by a competent physician who would try to protect the relevant sphincter and muscles.
They may have been describing the problem created by urinary retention due to urethral stricture.
Remember boys and girls, the urethra is like a rubber band anchored to the glans.
Always leave extra urethra to penis length to help avoid excessive retraction being the cause of the problem.
That's why the guillotine technique produces unsatisfactory results.
How I dream of life after penectomy. Not the act but,, living with it.
A full, functioning sac and no joy stick.
Too bad we lost roadrunner.
Any new studies since we spoke, Jesus?
Share the demographics we discussed of those who are most likely to dream or act out a penectomy as described.
I'd get banned if I did, don'tchyaknow.
Moi
Remember: Extra urethral length, even at the perineum.
As very old man, George Burns was asked privately about sex at his age.
He said, "imagine trying to get an oyster in a coin slot".
Story told by Carl Reiner. Not Rob! The old man.
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Re: penectomy questions
It is possible to ask a very complex question in a very simple way, and it is possible to answer a very complex question in a very simple way.
When either of those simplifications of complexity happens, both question and answer may end up holding the short end of the stick of meaningfulness.
Much of the time, a penectomy can be accomplished by a very skilled and experienced urologic surgeon while preserving both involuntary and voluntary urinary sphincter function. If cancer is an issue and cancer has affected the sphincters and their enervation, preservation of sphincter function may prevent effective cancer treatment.
As to, "with only a stump and no testicles, can a man still orgasm and/or masturbate"? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Some apparently can, others plausibly cannot.
It may depend profoundly on which particular man is meant by "a man."
There are sources of good information that are easily found by using Internet search engines. For example:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK9390/
It ought to be easy, using Internet searches, to learn that the biology/physiology of human sexuality is vastly more complex than the brain's conscious experience of it. Using conscious awareness of human sexuality and sexual response as though such conscious awareness was an accurate model of actual physiology may be a grand way to encounter disappointment far beyond despair.
Both erection and ejaculation are mediated to a large degree by spinal reflex arcs that can function independently of what goes on only in a man's head, such that some men who have high enough spinal transections (such as with typical forms of quadriplegia) may be able to have both erections and ejaculations, although without the usual conscious sensations.
For a complex question, a simple answer is often (or, almost invariably?), simply wrong.
When either of those simplifications of complexity happens, both question and answer may end up holding the short end of the stick of meaningfulness.
Much of the time, a penectomy can be accomplished by a very skilled and experienced urologic surgeon while preserving both involuntary and voluntary urinary sphincter function. If cancer is an issue and cancer has affected the sphincters and their enervation, preservation of sphincter function may prevent effective cancer treatment.
As to, "with only a stump and no testicles, can a man still orgasm and/or masturbate"? Perhaps. Perhaps not. Some apparently can, others plausibly cannot.
It may depend profoundly on which particular man is meant by "a man."
There are sources of good information that are easily found by using Internet search engines. For example:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK9390/
It ought to be easy, using Internet searches, to learn that the biology/physiology of human sexuality is vastly more complex than the brain's conscious experience of it. Using conscious awareness of human sexuality and sexual response as though such conscious awareness was an accurate model of actual physiology may be a grand way to encounter disappointment far beyond despair.
Both erection and ejaculation are mediated to a large degree by spinal reflex arcs that can function independently of what goes on only in a man's head, such that some men who have high enough spinal transections (such as with typical forms of quadriplegia) may be able to have both erections and ejaculations, although without the usual conscious sensations.
For a complex question, a simple answer is often (or, almost invariably?), simply wrong.
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Re: penectomy questions
There is a beautiful man on xtube by the name of mneunuch who has a stump and no balls - not a full penectomy, but the head has been "docked" - and he can cum just fine. Kind of the best of both worlds if u ask me.
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Re: penectomy questions
knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:35 am Wtih only a stump and no testicles can a man still orgasm? Masturbate?
I knew a man with a penectomy and no balls. He could orgasm just fine. Yes, he co
another. Also, nearly all seminal fluid is from the prostate. --FLO--
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uld masturbate or be masturbated byUncle Flo (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:57 pm I knew a man with a penectomy and no balls. He could orgasm just fine. Yes, he co
40120]Uncle Flo (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:57 pm another. Also, nearly all [quote="knightbird111 (imported)" time=13466
seminal fluid is from the prostate.
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1) about urination. urine stream is controlled by a sphincter inside bladder, so if your cock is entirely cut off you will have no problems controlling your urine stream.
2) If you are totally cockless, stimulation and orgasm can be achieved by masturbating the stump ( a nice video : http://www.moviefap.com/videos/979eb59c ... ctomy.html) or exciting the inside of urethra with a sound (urethral stimulation).
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Both castr8edmale and yoda nel, state that they can orgasm. They both are nullos and you can check them out here:
http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread ... highlight= (Read through Yoda's story and towards the end he'll mention that he still can have orgasms without a penis and without testicles)
http://people.tribe.net/d87d3d8a-2214-4 ... 4bfaf27ef8
http://people.tribe.net/886f16d0-ff56-4 ... 33d5b0099e (Make sure you look through Justine's pics)
http://tribes.tribe.net/nullos/photos/1 ... 1ef6253819
Just so you know, castr8male had all of his penis removed, all of it, and he still has orgasms, though it takes him longer. I think his orgasms are like a woman's now.
http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread ... highlight= (Read through Yoda's story and towards the end he'll mention that he still can have orgasms without a penis and without testicles)
http://people.tribe.net/d87d3d8a-2214-4 ... 4bfaf27ef8
http://people.tribe.net/886f16d0-ff56-4 ... 33d5b0099e (Make sure you look through Justine's pics)
http://tribes.tribe.net/nullos/photos/1 ... 1ef6253819
Just so you know, castr8male had all of his penis removed, all of it, and he still has orgasms, though it takes him longer. I think his orgasms are like a woman's now.
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Regarding urination, I urinate just fine with my reroute (perineal urethrostomy). I could remove my penis now with no worry. A guillotine would work for me or any other method since I no longer use my penis for anything. I can get erections, sometimes I still have them when I wake up, but not often. I could probably have intercourse, but my desire and my wife's desire for sex has waned. I have some days each month when my desire for removing my penis is powerful, but so far I have resisted the urge to proceed, so far. I no one day I'll give in and become a nullo, one day.
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No! castr8male is on HRT so his orgasms are like a male, and he has posted a video of one of his orgasms. I have had orgasms like a woman when I had low T but if my T was in the normal range the only type of orgasms I had squirted out or were dry pumping like a male
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Hash (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:21 am Just so you know, castr8male had all of his penis removed, all of it, and he still has orgasms, though it takes him longer. I think his orgasms are like a woman's now.
No! castr8male is on HRT so his orgasms are like a male, and he has posted a video of one of his orgasms. I have had orgasms like a woman when I had low T but if my T was in the normal range the only type of orgasms I had squirted out or were dry pumping like a male
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OK _g, sorrry, but he has no male parts and still orgasms. His new video is amazing but it's centered on him rubbing what seems to be a clit like remnant of his penis, only he cut his penis off completely so they didn't fashion a clit out of his glans and he had his stump removed. Not sure what he's touching then that gives him an orgasm. So even if his orgasms aren't totally like a woman's orgasm, he does what a lot of women do in order to have an orgasm.
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Here's castr8edmale's video, it explains a lot just by watching it. His male vagina seems to work fine.
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Hash (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:03 pm OK _g, sorrry, but he has no male parts and still orgasms. His new video is amazing but it's centered on him rubbing what seems to be a clit like remnant of his penis, only he cut his penis off completely so they didn't fashion a clit out of his glans and he had his stump removed. Not sure what he's touching then that gives him an orgasm. So even if his orgasms aren't totally like a woman's orgasm, he does what a lot of women do in order to have an orgasm.
Sorry Hash, but stimulation and orgasm are two different things
When you do not have a Penis the stimulation have to be someplace ( front or anal and very like how a woman would ), and as you can see in the video he has ejaculate pumping out male type. Female type does not have a pumping sensation or ejaculate, For me it was: My wife was stimulating me, just before orgasm, my nipples got hard and then at the release, a funny pleasurable feeling all over for a long time, and then my erection was gone.
"castr8male" or penectomize persons have to be stimulated more like a women but their orgasm will be male (castr8male is on male HRT). If persons on Female HRT he would not have ejaculate and have a orgasm similar to what I described above.
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OK, it makes sense. If you're using testosterone supplement and you had male parts, then you'll have an orgasm like a male even if the male parts are gone, but where is his orgasm coming from? I know the fluid is probably coming from his prostate, but what is he rubbing that produces the orgasm/fluid? He said he has no remnant of a penis. Maybe I'll read through his posts again to see if he says anything about this.
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Great movie, being a TransEunuch having had all male genitalia removed 13 years ago and before that complete castrated I can assure you that my orgasms far better now ,not having to bother with penisises and nut. Yes we eunuch do have great sex. Love the worke that guy had - there are so many shapes and sizes and configuarations of our genitalia it just blows me away. My dear indian freind had such a beautiful nirwaan done at 19 and she is now 33 - and yes it looks so cool.
I do understand all the wannabees, having been nursing penectomy dreams and fantasies since I was eight but t the same time need the warmth and freindship of my fellow nullo eunuch community. So if you are out there do write to me. Love to discuss enuchg erotica, sensuality and unity.
Great being here!
TransEuch from Sweden
I do understand all the wannabees, having been nursing penectomy dreams and fantasies since I was eight but t the same time need the warmth and freindship of my fellow nullo eunuch community. So if you are out there do write to me. Love to discuss enuchg erotica, sensuality and unity.
Great being here!
TransEuch from Sweden
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Hash (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:39 am OK, it makes sense. If you're using testosterone supplement and you had male parts, then you'll have an orgasm like a male even if the male parts are gone, but where is his orgasm coming from? I know the fluid is probably coming from his prostate, but what is he rubbing that produces the orgasm/fluid? He said he has no remnant of a penis. Maybe I'll read through his posts again to see if he says anything about this.
He is stimulating the nerve endings of what was his penis, plus your brain is the largest sex organ.
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