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what exactly is going on here? is this a board for people who were accidentally castrated or for like people who had sex changes or what? it seems like some posts people WANT to be eunochs. whats the motivations behind this? im very curious to know, because ive never heard of anything like this. maybe some of you can explain it to me? i'm not going to judge or make fun or anything, i just want to know
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There are many different motivations, and many different reasons men have for becoming eunuchs.

All I can honestly speak to are my own reasons and my own motivation.

I'd suggest reading some of the threads here for some insight on others, and going to my BMEworld site (see below) and reading my FAQ section there for MY reasons.

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why would you do something like that to yourself? i read your FAQ but didnt get a real clear answer of WHY you did it...why not just leave your stuff hanging around so to speak and just not use it? seems more practical than spending $10,000 to have it removed
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someguy (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2002 11:56 am why would you do something like that to yourself? i read your FAQ but didnt get a real clear answer of WHY you did it...why not just leave your stuff hanging around so to speak and just not use it? seems more practical than spending $10,000 to have it removed

If your reading in my FAQ about 40+years of repeated urinary tract infections, constant pain, constant unquenched sex drive, etc. didn't give you a hint, I cannot explain it to you any further.

If someone is bothered by my choice to get rid of all those negatives by having my dangly bits removed, that is simply their problem, not mine.

I have provided as much information, in as much detail, as it should take. The fact that I got several pshrinks, several MD's, and my wife to agree and understand to the point of fully supporting me should also give you a hint that there was good, valid, and sufficient reason to take the path I did.

That's it, I tried.

Someone else give it a shot, OK? I'm done.
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someguy (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2002 10:17 am what exactly is going on here? is this a board for people who were accidentally castrated or for like people who had sex changes or what? it seems like some posts people WANT to be eunochs. whats the motivations behind this? im very curious to know, because ive never heard of anything like this. maybe some of you can explain it to me? i'm not going to judge or make fun or anything, i just want to know

No problem. I am one of those who was NOT accidentally castrated, nor do I have the slightest desire for a sex change.

I am what is known as an "elective eunuch". That term "elective" means I voluntarily had myself castrated. Many others in The Eunuch Archive are elective eunuchs. And many are not. There is room for quite a variety of interests.

As for WHY, well, I wanted to be free of an excessive libido. Simple as that. Castration can result in what has been termed "The Eunuch Calm", a hard-to-describe state of serenity due to not being obsesseed with thoughts of sex and/or aggression. Not all eunuchs may have it, but those of us that do rarely want to go back to a testosterone-driven life.

I hope this helps.

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sorry Tomas, i guess i skimmed too much. the only reason i saw was you said you were born with female characteristics or something. but you and Andrew clear some stuff up for me. Andy- by castrate that means you only have your testes removed? are you still able to get an erection? is there NO sexdrive at all for you anymore? i can see the problem if your sexdrive makes you agressive but why did you want it depleted completely and permenantly?

Robby- its doubtful im going to stick around, im just trying to get an understanding
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someguy (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2002 1:01 pm sorry Tomas, i guess i skimmed too much. the only reason i saw was you said you were born with female characteristics or something. but you and Andrew clear some stuff up for me. Andy- by castrate that means you only have your testes removed? are you still able to get an erection? is there NO sexdrive at all for you anymore? i can see the problem if your sexdrive makes you agressive but why did you want it depleted completely and permenantly?

Yes, by "castrate" and/or "eunuch" I mean the removal of the testicles only. I have never had even the slightest interest in a penectomy.

Please note that many eunuchs retain some sexual activity after castration, although at a reduced level. Erections and orgasms are still possible for some. It depends on age of castration, what the adrenal glands are putting out, and other factors poorly understood. A loving and understanding partner can help out.

In my case, at age 56, I was quickly rendered impotent and totally without a sex drive. I felt I would be better off without the testosterone-induced sexuality and aggressiveness, and that has been the case. I am now calm and relaxed and comfortable without being bothered by thoughts of sex and aggresion.

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First of all SUMEGUY i am glad you have taken an interest in this web site. Second i dont know if you fulley understand what we are all about. ANDREW did not become a eunuch because he thought it would be a fun thing to do. He was tired of the sex addiction in his life. How many times have you seen a person you know tell thair spouse or boss that thay will never drink again this is the last time only to see that same person do the same thing over and over again It could be drugs gambling smoking or any other addiction that is thair problem.This is what many of us are facing with sex addection.We are tired of being out of controal. So we have taken the extreme measures of controling our sex drive through surgical means or drugs to lower our testosterone.This is the best way i can explain it so you can understand us and who we are
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sag111 (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2002 2:56 am First of all SUMEGUY i am glad you have taken an interest in this web site. Second i dont know if you fulley understand what we are all about. ANDREW did not become a eunuch because he thought it would be a fun thing to do. He was tired of the sex addiction in his life. How many times have you seen a person you know tell thair spouse or boss that thay will never drink again this is the last time only to see that same person do the same thing over and over again It could be drugs gambling smoking or any other addiction that is thair problem.This is what many of us are facing with sex addection.We are tired of being out of controal. So we have taken the extreme measures of controling our sex drive through surgical means or drugs to lower our testosterone.This is the best way i can explain it so you can understand us and who we are
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I know your not getting the answer to your question, the reason is that there is no one reason. Twenty eunuchs in here and we will all give you a different answer. The only thing I have found that is common with all of us is an ITCH that cant be scratched, only being castrated will scratch that ITCH. Its just that simple. Who does this well we are between 18 and 80, were married, divorced, parents, grandparents, never been married, gay with and with out partners and bi sexual, we are trans sexual, trans-gendered, pre-op post-op or some ware in between, now if that does not help you, dont fret some of us never have quite figured it all out but are happy with the results. Me I am not sure I can tell you why I am a eunuch, not really, not sure that I know myself, but it dose not matter to me, I am happy this way, for the first time in my life I feel whole and complete. I know that did not answer you question either I think you would need to spent a couple of years in here to gain that in site. But even then you may be just as confused about it as you are now.

Some things you and explain and quantify this is not one of them.
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someguy (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2002 10:17 am what exactly is going on here? is this a board for people who were accidentally castrated or for like people who had sex changes or what? it seems like some posts people WANT to be eunochs. whats the motivations behind this? im very curious to know, because ive never heard of anything like this. maybe some of you can explain it to me? i'm not going to judge or make fun or anything, i just want to know

This board is for all of the above, and for all of the motivations. Trans-women like myself are actually a minority here.

OK, imagine that you wake up tomorrow morning and find that you have a beautiful pair of C-cup breasts on your chests. But you still feel inside that you are a man and wish to remain a man. Then you are told that these breasts will never go away and will remain on your body for the rest of your life.

Would you seek surgery to have these breasts removed? Would you even be willing to spend $10,000 to remove them so you could once again have the flat manly chest that you used to have?

I've spent more than that just to have my beard removed. By this time next year, I may have no contact with my own mother or anyone else related to me by blood, because I would give them up just so I can live in a body that conforms to my sense of self. This is because I am a woman who was born into a male body, so facial hairs, a penis, testicles, and the male hormones they produce just don't fit my self image. Removing my testicles cost only a fraction of that, but I too would pay $10,000 to remove my penis for the same reason you would remove breasts if they were to magically appear on your chest while you sleep tonight.

If you were born with a female body, but the exact same mind and exact same way of thinking that you have now, I think you would want to remove your ovaries so you don't have female hormones in your body. Because like the rest of us, you have a certain sense of self. A few people are unfortunately born with something that differs from our inner sense of self.
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thanks for replying everyone, its cool that you all take time to explain it.

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Riverwind (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2002 5:17 am I know your not getting the answer to your question, the reason is that there is no one reason. Twenty eunuchs in here and we will all give you a different answer.
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nah, i think you all cleared it up pretty well. its not hard to see that different people have different motivations.

but heres a few more questions:

first for Riverwind, this may be a dumb question but are those your testicles youre holding in that pic?

second, ive heard about chemical castration for pedophiles, now this isnt actual removal of anything its just pills they are given that reduce their sex drive correct? seems like this would be a more logical way to go rather than putting yourself through surgery to reduce your sex drive. also, how common is this? why dont they use it for rapists? it seems to me that it would be better to physically castrate rapists and pedophiles so they wouldnt become repeat offenders. with the chemical thing it seems like they could go off it for awhile and regain the old tendencies.

third, kind of unrelated but i know from history that slaves were commonly eunuchs. how did they castrate them hundreds or thousands of years ago with no anesthetic or clean surgical conditions? how did the slaves not die of infection afterwards?
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someguy (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2002 8:46 am ind of unrelated but i know from history that slaves were commonly eunuchs. how did they castrate them hundreds or thousands of years ago with no anesthetic or clean surgical conditions? how did the slaves not die of infection afterwards?

But they did die in great numbers, especially if it was both testicles and penis that were removed. The death rate was lower if only testicles were removed. But they were, after all, slaves, or maybe war prisoners, and life was nasty, brutish, and short in those days anyways.

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Sherry (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2002 7:19 am OK, imagine that you wake up tomorrow morning and find that you have a beautiful pair of C-cup breasts on your chests. ... Then you are told that these breasts will never go away and will remain on your body for the rest of your life. ... Would you even be willing to spend $10,000 to remove them so you could once again have the flat manly chest that you used to have?

I could live with that. I would definately not spend $10,000 to have them removed.
Sherry (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2002 7:19 am Would you seek surgery to have these breasts removed?Having a beautiful pair of C-cup breasts
would give me even more reason to seek castration and a pemectomy.
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Mac- is that you in that pic? you look like a healthy young guy, why did you have your penis and testes removed? thats a good lookin lady in that pic too
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someguy (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2002 1:18 pm Mac- is that you in that pic? ... thats a good lookin lady in that pic too
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It is not me in the picture but that would be nice. However, the picture is from my personal collection.

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tell me the name of that software so i can make sure to never buy it hahahaha
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The graphic packages cost alot of money. There not cheap........

The packages can run form $10 to over $1000 depending on the license $10 being personal use only to $1000+ being comerical use, unlimited.

Becides I would not mind a D cup;-)

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Yes that is me holding my balls in a jar about an hour after surgery. they now sit on the shelf on my computer desk so I can look and enjoy them in there new home.

Second part of your question, there was a thread on here at one time about castration of sex offenders, I understand that sometimes it is court ordered (per Dr Kimmel) and I think some states require it under some conditions. but I think we all agreed that it would not help much. its to easy to get HRT.

third part I think was answered.

Castration is not for everybody but for those of us that want it nothing else will take its place.
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One note I might add, here, whatever the reasons, I for one am definitely happy with the results. My surgery was done one year ago this month, and the changes have been great, for the most part. Just FYI, my reason was mainly to control an extremely overactive libido that for the most part controlled my every conscious moment. The effect has been to give me back control of my life. There's so much more to life to enjoy now that all the frustration is cleared away, and I do not regret having made this change. Hope this helps in some small way, perhaps through the different views of the great folks here you can get get an idea of what life is like from the eunuch's perspective. It's not for everybody, but it's been great for me and my wife.

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That is the way i feel .I wounder how many marriages could be helped this way
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I can add the reason why I want to loose my 'male organs': Since my student-time I feel inbetween 'male'and 'female', and I very much dislike AND my balls and dick and my male sex drive. I have fantasied a lot about getting rid of it all....

I still feel attracted to women, and there is no problem with that. oNly sometimes I want to be that woman myself...

For many persons the proespect of loosing their cock and balls would be something horrendous. For me however I would exactly be how I feel inside: betwwen male and female.

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