Final decision stages and a question
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Cyberius11 (imported)
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Final decision stages and a question
So, I've thought this over for around a year - maybe more. I'm in the final stage of making my decision in regards to getting an orchiectomy. I've been tossing around pros and cons; I have more pros than cons in my list at this point. This forum has been a very valuable resource for me. This is not a decision I am taking lightly due to the lifelong consequences so I want to review it thoroughly. I believe I am finally going to call to schedule an appointment early next week but I'm giving it just a bit more thought.
If you would all be so kind, I have a request;
For those of you who have been castrated; could you please list one pro and one con related to your decision: one of the biggest benefits you have experienced due to being castrated, and one regret - i.e., a negative result.
Thank you all very much!
If you would all be so kind, I have a request;
For those of you who have been castrated; could you please list one pro and one con related to your decision: one of the biggest benefits you have experienced due to being castrated, and one regret - i.e., a negative result.
Thank you all very much!
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tugon (imported)
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One Pro is I think eunuch is my true gender. I was castrated 15 years ago and have never used T. Castration has also reduced my out of control sex drive/compulsion/addiction.
One Con is weight gain. Of course I did struggle with weight fluctuations prior to castration.
Second Pro is I like who I am as a eunuch.
Second Con is after so many years of eunuch calm I am wondering if it has gone from calm to boredom.
One Con is weight gain. Of course I did struggle with weight fluctuations prior to castration.
Second Pro is I like who I am as a eunuch.
Second Con is after so many years of eunuch calm I am wondering if it has gone from calm to boredom.
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ballsgone09 (imported)
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Re: Final decision stages and a question
My pro is I like my body and who i am now. I am a slight person physically and I never liked my testicles hanging down. Plus as many have said my sex urges were out of control. Seems all I thought about was sex and cumming. I masturbated constantly.
Cons: Originally I was prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. I didn't have some of the issues with weight gain, depression, night sweats, etc. that others have had. However after two years of TRT my doctor took me off because of signs of prostate cancer. In the past year I have experienced the night sweats, some depression, etc. but the biggest thing I have noticed is the body changes. My weight has moved to my hips. My breasts are growing and nipples are more sensitive. I do not get fully erect anymore. Less body hair (didn't have much to start). My mental attitude has changed somewhat. I believe each individual will have their own results, I think I was more effeminate to start than I liked to think so maybe my rapid body changes are a result of my predisposed nature anyway. difficult to deal with yes. Happy I am a eunuch yes. would I do it again, despite the results, yes.
Cons: Originally I was prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. I didn't have some of the issues with weight gain, depression, night sweats, etc. that others have had. However after two years of TRT my doctor took me off because of signs of prostate cancer. In the past year I have experienced the night sweats, some depression, etc. but the biggest thing I have noticed is the body changes. My weight has moved to my hips. My breasts are growing and nipples are more sensitive. I do not get fully erect anymore. Less body hair (didn't have much to start). My mental attitude has changed somewhat. I believe each individual will have their own results, I think I was more effeminate to start than I liked to think so maybe my rapid body changes are a result of my predisposed nature anyway. difficult to deal with yes. Happy I am a eunuch yes. would I do it again, despite the results, yes.
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I was castrated about four years ago in a hospital which, should you choose to go forward, I would hope is the route you would choose.
The biggest pro is that I am now the person I thought I was meant to be, not sexual, not even concerned with it. When you have your testicles, no matter how you want to keep sex out of your life, it's unavoidable.
The biggest con-as with others, I did experience a modest weight gain but the one greater than that was when I told a few "trusted" friends with whom I'd previously discussed this. While I wasn't shunned, it became clear that they felt that anyone who could do this was mentally unstable. I should point out that these were all men. Women were some what better but they, too, found it most unusual. I'm not young and making new friends who could accept me as I was hasn't been easy however, I am happier as person.
You seem to have many qualms about this. For that reason alone, do not do it until you are 100% certain that it's the correct thing for you. And, as all of us could tell you, whatever you've heard, however much wise advice you've been given, it's not what you expect no matter how carefully you've thought about this on the other side of the knife.
The biggest pro is that I am now the person I thought I was meant to be, not sexual, not even concerned with it. When you have your testicles, no matter how you want to keep sex out of your life, it's unavoidable.
The biggest con-as with others, I did experience a modest weight gain but the one greater than that was when I told a few "trusted" friends with whom I'd previously discussed this. While I wasn't shunned, it became clear that they felt that anyone who could do this was mentally unstable. I should point out that these were all men. Women were some what better but they, too, found it most unusual. I'm not young and making new friends who could accept me as I was hasn't been easy however, I am happier as person.
You seem to have many qualms about this. For that reason alone, do not do it until you are 100% certain that it's the correct thing for you. And, as all of us could tell you, whatever you've heard, however much wise advice you've been given, it's not what you expect no matter how carefully you've thought about this on the other side of the knife.
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Cyberius11 (imported)
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Thank you for the replies everyone
Much appreciated. I would be calling Arnkoff for the procedure.
considering: I have qualms about everything. Hell, I research beer before I buy it... lol. I always like to know all pros and cons prior to making a decision. Hearing pros and cons from people who have experienced this procedure already could help bring out positives (or negatives) that I may not have uncovered so far. I'm leaning 100% to getting it done - so far it sounds like everything I want it to be, and the negatives can be worked around via HRT.
considering: I have qualms about everything. Hell, I research beer before I buy it... lol. I always like to know all pros and cons prior to making a decision. Hearing pros and cons from people who have experienced this procedure already could help bring out positives (or negatives) that I may not have uncovered so far. I'm leaning 100% to getting it done - so far it sounds like everything I want it to be, and the negatives can be worked around via HRT.
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I suppose I can offer my view...
Pro:
1. Unlike my dad and brother, I did not die from cancer at an age much younger than I now am.
2. Perhaps because of being transgendered, testosterone was always a sort of nuisance, though not enough so to make my being transgendered alone sufficient reason for getting my orchiectomy
3. After my orchiectomy, an endocrinologist prescribed "female" hormones until I got to the usual age range for female menopause, and the hormones were discontinued; I learned that I got along notably better with female hormone levels than with prior male hormones, thereby satisfying my understanding that I am actually, as I long thought, somewhere in the transgender spectrum realm.
Con:
1. Because of my orchiectomy and colectomy, I have no way to know that either or both of those surgeries prevented my getting cancer so far because I never took the path of not getting the surgeries.
2. Because I cannot know that the surgeries prevented my getting cancer by now, all I have is the best guess I was able to make about how my life would be, post surgeries.
3. No surprises of consequence for me. I had done "my homework" well enough that my post-surgery life is, from the orchiectomy standpoint, as I expected it to be.
Pro:
1. Unlike my dad and brother, I did not die from cancer at an age much younger than I now am.
2. Perhaps because of being transgendered, testosterone was always a sort of nuisance, though not enough so to make my being transgendered alone sufficient reason for getting my orchiectomy
3. After my orchiectomy, an endocrinologist prescribed "female" hormones until I got to the usual age range for female menopause, and the hormones were discontinued; I learned that I got along notably better with female hormone levels than with prior male hormones, thereby satisfying my understanding that I am actually, as I long thought, somewhere in the transgender spectrum realm.
Con:
1. Because of my orchiectomy and colectomy, I have no way to know that either or both of those surgeries prevented my getting cancer so far because I never took the path of not getting the surgeries.
2. Because I cannot know that the surgeries prevented my getting cancer by now, all I have is the best guess I was able to make about how my life would be, post surgeries.
3. No surprises of consequence for me. I had done "my homework" well enough that my post-surgery life is, from the orchiectomy standpoint, as I expected it to be.
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tugon (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:07 pm One Pro is I think eunuch is my true gender. I was castrated 15 years ago and have never used T. Castration has also reduced my out of control sex drive/compulsion/addiction.
One Con is weight gain. Of course I did struggle with weight fluctuations prior to castration.
Second Pro is I like who I am as a eunuch.
Second Con is after so many years of eunuch calm I am wondering if it has gone from calm to boredom.
Tugon, did you take any other kind of HRT or supplementation, as a no-T eunuch, to avoid osteoporosis?
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lust-ocd (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:39 am Tugon, did you take any other kind of HRT or supplementation, as a no-T eunuch, to avoid osteoporosis?
Just calcium with vitamin D. Several of my doctors have known I was a eunuch and they have never brought up HRT and I have never wanted it. I do not want to return to my previous behaviors.
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I am almost at the year point now and like everyone else I am so gld my drive is under control, I also hated the look and am soon having my scrotum removed then I beleive I will look as i should smooth.
As for cons well may be its because im still new realy but I have seen no weight gain my breasts are just a little bigger I thinks my only cons so far is the sweats and having to take the meds mind you one if the meds is a very low dose of T so low I may stop it im not sure I still like the odd erection and I dont want to loose any size may be when I some more time under my belt I will forget about these thing as I am well on the way now.
I love being a Eunuch and good luck.
As for cons well may be its because im still new realy but I have seen no weight gain my breasts are just a little bigger I thinks my only cons so far is the sweats and having to take the meds mind you one if the meds is a very low dose of T so low I may stop it im not sure I still like the odd erection and I dont want to loose any size may be when I some more time under my belt I will forget about these thing as I am well on the way now.
I love being a Eunuch and good luck.
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An excellent question. One pro and one con is not so easy. My pro is that I am no longer obsessed with figuring out how, where and when to get castrated (probably begs other questions). My con is how do I expain being castrated to someone who becomes aware that I have no balls (any help here appreciated).
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smoothie36 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:18 am An excellent question. One pro and one con is not so easy. My pro is that I am no longer obsessed with figuring out how, where and when to get castrated (probably begs other questions). My con is how do I expain being castrated to someone who becomes aware that I have no balls (any help here appreciated).
testicular cancer
Loss secondary to injury
wanted to see what it was like
I gave them back to their owner
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smoothie36 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:18 am An excellent question. One pro and one con is not so easy. My pro is that I am no longer obsessed with figuring out how, where and when to get castrated (probably begs other questions). My con is how do I expain being castrated to someone who becomes aware that I have no balls (any help here appreciated).
Given that it is impossible to tell the whole truth because it does not apparently exist, it may be sufficient to tell the truth that can be told.
I am unaware of anyone who does not have a "family history of cancer" of one sort or another, especially when one considers the chance that everyone alive is, however distantly, related to everyone else who is alive, such that the whole of humanity is actually one single family, therefore, everyone apparently has a "family history of cancer."
My final, and ultimately decisive, reason for my orchiectomy was my "family history of cancer," for real and in fact. That my dad and brother died from the forms of cancer I sought to prevent, or at least seriously delay, through surgical prophylaxis, is factually true is convenient as a detail for me, however, being in any way trans or BIID (or whatever else) is far more than enough actual reason, as I see it, for getting an effective orchiectomy.
I am an enthusiast when it comes to living a life that is in harmony with my innermost sense of self, such is what I did prior to my orchiectomy, such is what I have done ever since it.
In my personal life, I have never encountered a more efficacious preventative or curative for despair other than a resolute sense of valid personal integrity.
Testosterone long ago made it onto the "known carcinogens" list of the State of California.
So, for people who have difficulty "getting it," a family history of cancer may be a valid, and inescapably true, way to satisfy other people's sense of puzzlement.
My brother died from cancer at age 50.
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smoothie36 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:18 am An excellent question. One pro and one con is not so easy. My pro is that I am no longer obsessed with figuring out how, where and when to get castrated (probably begs other questions). My con is how do I expain being castrated to someone who becomes aware that I have no balls (any help here appreciated).
I had no problem when it came up. I just told them how things were and the pain I was in. They all accepted it. One of the older ladies (who almost lost her husband due to a bad testicle and no help for a long time...he came within 4 hours of dying before the Dr's actede happy. And she didn't even know I was having the troubles.. And that was only one ball) Told me not to wait...get rid of the things and be happy.
My daughter's comment was "Dad, at your age (67 at the time) you don't need them anymore anyway.
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Gandalf,
I am glad to hear you are doing well. it has been along time since we chatted on Yahoo and miss our chats. I'll PM you and I hope we can reconnect. For the record, I still have my testicles.
Dave
I am glad to hear you are doing well. it has been along time since we chatted on Yahoo and miss our chats. I'll PM you and I hope we can reconnect. For the record, I still have my testicles.
Dave
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Not sure how or why people would find out unless 1) they're your doctor 2) your significant other or 3) you go around talking about it or dropping your pants all the time.
My doctor should know, the lady I'm sleeping with at the time should hopefully not care if we are that that point in the relationship, and I keep my pants up the great majority of the time.
I don't mean to be rude and there may be other situations that arise where people may find out, but by and large I would think this would be easy to just keep to yourself.
My doctor should know, the lady I'm sleeping with at the time should hopefully not care if we are that that point in the relationship, and I keep my pants up the great majority of the time.
I don't mean to be rude and there may be other situations that arise where people may find out, but by and large I would think this would be easy to just keep to yourself.
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Decision made .. I am going to call to schedule an appointment later this week. I can't wait! 