after castration

[Rooster17 (imported)]

before castration i had daily needs to get intimate with men or women on a daily basis. since, it almost seems dirty and i have no desire to get naked with another person and touch their body. it isnt really a lack of desire for sex, but a complete turnoff even thinking about it. i do occasionally masturbate, but i wonder if others after castration feel the same

[Hash (imported)]

That's the result of castration, you become sexless. You lose your sexual desire and your desire for intimacy. I've lost most of my sexual desire even though I use a little testosterone gel to prevent osteoporosis and depression. You can add back some testosterone, which after a few days will cause erections and return some of your sexual desire.

[Rooster17 (imported)]

i am on a daily cream from a compund pharmacy but no erections whatsoever now, i do however feel my breasts are growing, at least really sensitive

[janekane (imported)]

While desiring to initiate neither diatribe nor debate, not everyone is a member of the "you" for whom the result of castration is, "you become sexless."

My sexual desire did not much diminish after my orchiectomy, what changed, though, is, it became much simpler, whenever I had something I regarded as more interesting to do, to ignore my not much reduced sexual desire. I have never taken any sort of androgen replacement since the day of my orchiectomy.

Some people prefer to communicate using "you messages." I, however, find "I-messages" to work better for me than "you-messages."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-message

[kristoff]

My sexual desire never diminished, just capability. There is often reported an increased need for intimacy as opposed to sexual contact.

[erikboy (imported)]

YMWV as one legendary EA member said once. It appears that there is no unified result of castration and people have very different feelings and effects to castration. During my short chemical trial I did not feel sexual attraction when I saw people with appealing looks. But I still enjoyed the view more from esthethical beauty. Not sexual.

[Rooster17 (imported)]

YMWV as one legendary EA member said once. It appears that there is no unified result of castration and people have very different feelings and effects to castration. During my short chemical trial I did not feel sexual attraction when I saw people with appealing looks. But I still enjoyed the view more from esthethical beauty. Not sexual.

at first i was pissed off, it was more like a conditioned response. like lighting a cigarette when having coffee or having a beer at a campfire. the desire or lust just wasnt there. thru time i have come to accept the lack of feeling i have now. i really wanted to reaquire the horniness thru hrt but nothing is there now, at least im accepting it now

[unencumbered (imported)]

While desiring to initiate neither diatribe nor debate, not everyone is a member of the "you" for whom the result of castration is, "you become sexless."

My sexual desire did not much diminish after my orchiectomy, what changed, though, is, it became much simpler, whenever I had something I regarded as more interesting to do, to ignore my not much reduced sexual desire. I have never taken any sort of androgen replacement since the day of my orchiectomy.

Some people prefer to communicate using "you messages." I, however, find "I-messages" to work better for me than "you-messages."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-message

I think that when someone uses the word "you" in this instance, he is referring to a class of people, in this case castrates. Perhaps the writer should have added "in many instances" but I think that he was understood by most readers here that loosing most of one's natural sexual interest is a common effect of castration. That doesn't mean that castration effects everyone this same way and there are variables, such as the length of time since castration, etc.

For me, I have almost no interest in sex anymore, except on rare occasions. and even if I try to despite using some supplemental T for health reasons. But I am pretty sure that I can still physically have sex on demand; I just have never been interested enough to find out. As far as non-sexual intimacy with the opposite sex goes, I still desire it and maybe even more so than before my surgery. All of these sexual effects that I have had from being castrated I understand are common among many other castrates but I am relating my own personal experience.

[janekane (imported)]

The sense that people in a particular "class of people" have enough actual attributes in common that one person can tell another what the another has experienced, has been given a name in, for example, the class of people who are not autistic and who study people who are autistic, that sense is sometimes named "theory of mind," and autistic people in enough ways similar to me are sometimes said to have, as an aspect of their autism spectrum disorder, a serious impairment in terms of theory of mind. j

Some folks have attempted to teach me to become "normal" i.e., "neurotypical" in autismspeak, without the slightest hint of success. In my model of existence, "theory of mind" is a severe form of brain damage or deficiency, and I regard many, if not most, so-called "normal" people as being seriously to disastrously autism-deficient.

I have attended pubic meetings led by a speaker who, in attempting to address the whole audience as a group, would state something as though "we" (the entire audience) believed it. Some years, when someone did that and what the person said would put me in the realm of the profoundly dishonest if I did not state that I did not agree with the speaker about his including me in his sense of "we", and stated why, the speaker said, to me and the rest of the audience, "I disagree with you ten thousand percent."

To which I said, to all present, "Your 'we' includes 'not-me'."

For me, "you-messages" tend to depersonalize, deindividuate, and disrespect the person to whom a "you-message" is directed.

I experience "you-messages" as a form of bullying, but that belongs on a different thread, I suppose, except that it is relevant for me on this one.

However, I do not find "you-messages" quite as disrespectful of my sense of self as I found testosterone was.

I do have an ulterior motive for not being "sexless," and it is my guess that orgasms, if they happen often enough, may be somewhat like a Kegel exercise, in. perhaps/perhaps-not putting off functional urinary incontinence; so I sometimes go for the perhaps, just in case it helps.

So, to demonstrate the nature of human biological diversity, the main reason I had for my orchiectomy was to not be sexless. Why? My brother became sexless at age 50, when he died from such cancer as I had set out to delay or prevent. He not only became sexless, he became lifeless. Following his example, I found not inspiring. I am about as inspiring as I am expiring (meaning, breathing), whereas my brother stopped inspiring when he finished expiring.

My brother and I were, and are, not the same.

[paring (imported)]

Castrated men still need love and affection, sex makes it a good opportunity to have some. From Top I went bottoms but I must admit that I didn't have as much sex as before, from 20 times a month I went to less than twice a month.

Most of time, we read that castration doesn't eliminate all sex drive but greatly diminish it, I believe, it's normal. On some rare occasions, some report that they have no sex drive at all, it's very possible. Some others say, they are as horny as before. Without TRT? That I'd like to see it to believe it.

[kristoff]

Castrated men still need love and affection, sex makes it a good opportunity to have some. From Top I went bottoms but I must admit that I didn't have as much sec as before, from 20 times a month I went to less than twice a month.

Around here, that is because everyone seems to be a bottom. Minneapolis, Minnesota USA - we need TOPS.

[peteraln (imported)]

Hi

I from Singapore. I just completed my bilateral-orchiectomy and removal scrotum surgery last week in Thailand(29.Oct.2013).

I still not recover. Can I know when to start the HRT, for taking HRT I only want to reduce the side effect of the orchiectomy, I will like to remain low sex driver, so I will not take the injection of Depo-Testosterone 200mg.

I have bought the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg", have you try before, and if I only want to reduce the side effect, one week how many pills shall I take.

If I refuse to take HRT for a year what things will happen on me? Sorry for the poor English. Thanks.

Regards,

Peteraln

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

Congratulations. We all hope for your best recovery and happiness.

I think that you should not take testosterone pills. Testosterone pills are bad for the liver. If you want low sex drive, you need only small amounts of testosterone to keep your bones healthy. Many people use Androgel skin medication for this.

If you take no HRT for a year, most people will lose sex drive, get a little fat, have a smaller penis, maybe get a little bigger breasts. The bones should be good. You may also have "hot flashes". It is possible that the mind may become depressed. If you feel that you have the symptoms of depression, seek professional help. Stay happy and healthy. Enjoy being a eunuch!

Everyone is different. Have good medical advice to be safe.

The are many castrated people here, and most of us are happy and have good health.

There are many people here to answer your questions.

[paring (imported)]

Very few men can live without testosterone (or estrogen). It would be best to use some TRT to remain healthy and avoid castration side effects. What ever you decide to use, usually half dosage (full dosage is what a man should take to be sexually functional) should keep testosterone level below 5 (150), low enough to avoid unwanted erections. Don't wait to long to start TRT, because when side effects set in, it'd be difficult to get rid of them without taking full dosage TRT. With injections you'll have a up and down roller coaster effect, for better control 5 gr. a day of testosterone gel should be enough. Without TRT there won't be any immediate bad side effects, except fatigue and impotency. You can let your T level go down for a while for you to experience your eunuch state. It might take up to a year to start to experience the bad side effects and they are going to go from bad to worse, those effects include total lack of concentration, memory lost (similar to Alzeimer disease) severe arthritis pain (at one point you'll feel like a ninety year old man), obesity and all the related diseases like diabetes or hearth problems. Each of those previous side effects are known to lead to depression, when they are all present depression is unavoidable. Eat less, because eunuchs tend to put on weight very easily and without testosterone it'd be very difficult to lose your extra kilos, remain active but don't try to work as hard as intact men. Can you tell us where you got it done in Thailand? Good luck!

Hi

I from Singapore. I just completed my bilateral-orchiectomy and removal scrotum surgery last week in Thailand(29.Oct.2013).

I still not recover. Can I know when to start the HRT, for taking HRT I only want to reduce the side effect of the orchiectomy, I will like to remain low sex driver, so I will not take the injection of Depo-Testosterone 200mg.

I have bought the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg", have you try before, and if I only want to reduce the side effect, one week how many pills shall I take.

If I refuse to take HRT for a year what things will happen on me? Sorry for the poor English. Thanks.

Regards,

Peteraln

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

Well, I am castrated and have continued to feel better, not worse. A year after it was done, i felt good. I am sorry to disappoint those expecting me to suffer with arthritis, depression and everything including housemaids knee. I do become older, but i notice that this injustice is not limited to eunuchs, it seems.

Greetings to Singapore, and all best wishes for much happiness! Can you tell us where in Thailand?

[_g (imported)]

Hi

I from Singapore. I just completed my bilateral-orchiectomy and removal scrotum surgery last week in Thailand(29.Oct.2013).

I still not recover. Can I know when to start the HRT, for taking HRT I only want to reduce the side effect of the orchiectomy, I will like to remain low sex driver, so I will not take the injection of Depo-Testosterone 200mg.

I have bought the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg", have you try before, and if I only want to reduce the side effect, one week how many pills shall I take.

If I refuse to take HRT for a year what things will happen on me? Sorry for the poor English. Thanks.

Regards,

Peteraln

I have to agree on not taking pills to get testosterone. Also it depends on your age with how much hormones you will need to stay healthy. It all varies greatly from person to person, so "Your Mileage May Vary"

But it all comes down to your personal choice and feelings.

_g

[Paolo]

As I was told by my doctor some years ago, the pill form is for testing, or a trial run, and never intended for long-term use.

I was given one month of it.

Never again...

[Testman29 (imported)]

Andriol is not like the pill, it's not liver toxic like that. The downside is because it absorbs differently, you need boat loads of it for even a small raise in testosterone level, and this gets expensive. If you're from over seas, you can probably get any type of male hormone you want. If I wanted to lower my drive, but not have the full blown effects of no testosterone, I would take something like Equipoise and/or Anavar. Or any type of low androgen like those two. Deca or Primobolan is also an option. My favorite thing on Earth to take is Trenbolone by itself. Because it lowers my sex drive to that of a 10 yo, BUT because its technically, kind of androgenic, my erectile function actually increased on it. Plus it sure kept me lean. . .

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

Do be careful; there is just too much pseudo-bs mixed in with hrt advice. If the solution has all the benefits and none of the downside, it might just be too good to be true. Best ask the doc for guidance before wasting your money or worse yourself.

[kiwi (imported)]

Janekane! I feel the same as you. My sex drive did not change much, the thing I noticed the most is that I don't need to ejaculate ever time I have sex.

[nvrgag44 (imported)]

I like having a little libido left. Nothing like it was well through my 40s and in to my early 50s. It was almost constant, required daily attention and at times was a real distraction. I somehow managed. Now I'm pushing 70 and radiation for prostate cancer has partially cooked my nuts leaving me with T levels from as low as 130 to highs in the upper 200s. Not very high but enough to keep a somewhat satisfactory spark glowing. I'd hate to lose it altogether.

[rushsite (imported)]

I certainly lost sex drive and sex "confidence" ... I am dominated by dominant women and they control me more easily now that I am castrated.

[peteraln (imported)]

Hi All,

Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for your good advise. I had my surgery at Thailand "kamol hospital" http://kamolhospital.com/home. Cost me about US$5000.00.

19.Oct.2013 I had my first injection "Depo-Testosterone 100mg", and 03.Jan 2014 I will go for my first appointment for the Testosterone test, so now I will try to take "Andriol Testocaps 40mg"(maybe one week two time), just to remain healthy. And the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg" I brought from Thailand, Singapore I cannot buy without prescriptions, and same as to inject the "Depo-Testosterone 100mg", without the Urology specially letter, the polyclinic doctor will not do the injection for me again..... So from next month before seek for the Urology specially help , I will just take the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg"(maybe one week two time), hope can remain healthy. Sad.

[butterflyjack (imported)]

Peterain..Hope everything works out for you..If that's your picture in the avatar, you look great..I love how the scrotum has tightened up and almost disappeared...Apparently you had no problem with erections when the photo was taken...Thick beauty....Be well Jackie

[peteraln (imported)]

Hi butterflyjack,

Thanks for you concern. Yes my photo taken on the 20 days after the surgery, I had required to removal(reduced) the scrotum(another US$650 more), the doctor cannot fully removal the scrotum, he only reduced 60%.

After the surgery three day I had my first erection. And the 20 days I have masturbation, I feel just like before castration and now I feel better without the two testicles, I had no regret to castrated.