Greetings one and all.
We are a month away from one of the more important events that occur in our community, the MoM!.
MoM's are held all over, and every year there is a Midwest MoM that takes place near Minneapolis/St.Paul (although there are talks about having it in a different midwest location next year). This year it will be in a slightly different location then the last few Midwest MoM's and that offers much more amenities.
Everyone is invited. Please pm Jesus for details if you want to attend (or me). Folks are arriving as early as August 21st but the big day is August 24th. For the main day we provide as much food and stuff as is humanly possible, usually far more than everyone can eat so don't worry about that. There is a local motel (http://motelprescott.com/) and even some campgrounds (http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_parks/afton/index.html) nearby (there are some sofas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couch) to crash on too). This year many services/sights are well within walking distance.
There are two major rivers within walking distance so if you like to swim, boat, or fish you will have no troubles. Walleye is the big catch and there is a nice trout-stream (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinnickinn ... oix_River)) up the road about 5 miles. The swimming is at a public beach (very popular in the hot summer) and is part of the National Scenic Riverway (http://www.stcroixriverfishing.com/St.CroixRiver.html). Boat launches are everywhere and folks even just put canoes in off the public docks. Lots of places down there to get some coffee and watch the river flow by from land as well. 4 blocks down from the main event is a nice park to visit (http://www.freedomparkwi.org/).
There are often field trips and outside of the annual trip to the record store there is never a concrete plan. If there is something you would like to see and to, mention it.
One of the menus will include Riverwind's famous pancakes while we are thinking about having a lot of smaller-fingerfood-like meals during the day of the big event. I'm leaning to maybe even getting some chicken from a local drive-in that has probably some of the best I've ever tasted.
Come one, come all. Midwest MoM 2013 in a month!
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As I think back over past MOM events, I realize that the best thing about them is the fellowship. How many places can you go to find like minds? Ad that with great food and an event and life could not be better, every year we try some place new and this year were going to the Fair.
So good fellowship and the food,
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River
So good fellowship and the food,
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I am looking forward to a day at the Minnesota State Fair. Damn I love the fair - I usually go 2-3 times. This time I get to do it with like minded friends, many (all) of whom are family to me. Hell, as I think on it, Talula and I have been friends for 15 years. Great to visit - stopped by yesterday. You'll get to meet some of the nicest people ever.
I always look forward to Thursday night dinner at the Convent. This year, even better steaks, shrimp, fixins, and Paolo's cauliflower salad (it might sound strange, but it really is very good). For those that feel the need, there'll be a a bottle of vodka (liquor store is 2 blocks away). Plent of sodas, diet and regular for skinny folks. If desired I have a fireplace and we can get lit up in more ways than one.
Friday night - we might be too stuffed with fattening fair food for dinner. But we are thinking of something different and better than the hog trough. A few options are available. We'll decide, I think, on Friday.
River's Saturday AM pancakes are to die for. My best year, if my addled memory serves, I managed to eat 18 of them. No wonder I am overweight.
Above all, there is good friends, family, and new faces. Meet the folks who are behind this place, or who run to keep up with it. I always enjoy meeting new folks as well as the regulars. Every year we seem to meet 5 or 8 or so new friends. How about you? Meet up with kristoff (my flunky ass), Paolo, Jesus, Talula, Uncle Flo, Gemm, Jane Kane, Riverwind (his son too), Cainanite, and whoever I am forgetting (sorry).
Send a private message to Riverwind or Jesus. They can send directions, maps, everything. Send one to me, too, and I'll make sure it gets in the right hands.
Looking forward to seeing all of you!
I always look forward to Thursday night dinner at the Convent. This year, even better steaks, shrimp, fixins, and Paolo's cauliflower salad (it might sound strange, but it really is very good). For those that feel the need, there'll be a a bottle of vodka (liquor store is 2 blocks away). Plent of sodas, diet and regular for skinny folks. If desired I have a fireplace and we can get lit up in more ways than one.
Friday night - we might be too stuffed with fattening fair food for dinner. But we are thinking of something different and better than the hog trough. A few options are available. We'll decide, I think, on Friday.
River's Saturday AM pancakes are to die for. My best year, if my addled memory serves, I managed to eat 18 of them. No wonder I am overweight.
Above all, there is good friends, family, and new faces. Meet the folks who are behind this place, or who run to keep up with it. I always enjoy meeting new folks as well as the regulars. Every year we seem to meet 5 or 8 or so new friends. How about you? Meet up with kristoff (my flunky ass), Paolo, Jesus, Talula, Uncle Flo, Gemm, Jane Kane, Riverwind (his son too), Cainanite, and whoever I am forgetting (sorry).
Send a private message to Riverwind or Jesus. They can send directions, maps, everything. Send one to me, too, and I'll make sure it gets in the right hands.
Looking forward to seeing all of you!
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And contrary to popular belief, I really am a nice person in person.
No one's ever been beheaded at a MOM event.
The cauliflower salad Kristoff mentions is a cold salad, much like potato salad, but with no potatoes.
No one's ever been beheaded at a MOM event.
The cauliflower salad Kristoff mentions is a cold salad, much like potato salad, but with no potatoes.
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It is quite tasty that salad is, yes.
I"ve never met a person at a MoM event that I didn't like. If you have never been to a MoM event, this year is a great year to attend.
I"ve never met a person at a MoM event that I didn't like. If you have never been to a MoM event, this year is a great year to attend.
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I think the cats have met some people they merely tolerated, however.
:kittygrayAnyone with cats
will understand this, however. One must worship the cats, or incur their wrath.
:kittygrayAnyone with cats
will understand this, however. One must worship the cats, or incur their wrath.
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dave 2 be eunuch (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:46 pm Hey what are the chances of getting a European MoM.
Excellent. Organize one. That is what happened here. Someone set it up and made it happen. It just took off from there.
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Oh, well...
I informed the Archive administrators of my intention to be at the 2013 MoM, much in the way I attended the 2012 and 2011 MoMs. Those who can attend and who are willing to encounter me "in person," I gently advise to also attend.
For whatever (nothing at all?) it may be worth, I am willing to be a tad more out, if not a tad more out of it. However, what is "it"?
I have been looking under furniture for loose change that may have fallen there, the better to pay for the gasoline needed for me to get to the MoM.
Not to criticize or find fault or complain, however, naming me "Jane Kane" is a tad like naming kristoff, "Krist Off"...
I am not any more a dual or more multiple personality; getting my orchiectomy and a plethora of other life experiences as made me functionally, internally and externally, as though one person who has, I tend to guess, a tad more of what is conventionally labeled feminine than labeled masculine, and I am not a member of the binary gender segment of humanity.
However, call me Jane Kane instead of janekane, and I really do not much mind. For that matter, call me late to dinner, and I do not much mind. Likewise for late to lunch or late to breakfast.
However, the MoM food has been magnificent, and I plan to call myself on time for breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, fellowship and comradery.
Perhaps somewhat as a result of the way I am apparently autistic, words and their context both challenge and intrigue me.
Our affluence has allowed us to erect a veil between dishonesty and its consequences. We can maintain the pretence that we are younger than we are, with help from skin lotions and cosmetic surgery; drugs can heighten our mood and dissolve our concerns for others; and we can convince ourselves of our environmental credentials with a monthly cheque to Greenpeace. Contrastingly, in those societies where the interweaving of human life and the physical environment anchors symbolism to the world in an urgent and immediate way, evasion and denial may immediately be life-threatening, making honesty a habit that is learned early in childhood. In how many 'Western' families could the following conversation, recorded by Edmund Carpenter in an igloo - have occurred?
One day when Kowanerk and I were alone, she looked up from the boot she was mending to ask, without preamble, 'Do we smell?' 'Yes.' Does the odour offend you?' 'Yes.' She sewed in silence for a while, then said, 'You smell and it's offensive to us. We wondered if we smell and if it offended you.' 143
Here is no relativistic comparison of alternative 'narratives' or 'constructions'. Words are used to refer to sensed realities in an immediate, undefensive, and honest way; and the realities that words are referring to are clearly understood as separate from the words themselves. In keeping with this distinction between language and reality, emotions may be felt but not talked about, just as the word may exist for a feeling which is seldom experienced. The story of our gradual loss of this direct connection between symbols and realities is a long and complex one that I will explore in the next chapter.
Kidner, Dr David W. (2012-03-06). Nature and Experience in the Culture of Delusion: How Industrial Society Lost Touch with Reality (p. 142). Palgrave Macmillan Monographs. Kindle Edition. (I {janekane} presume this quote, being 278 words, fits within copyright fair educational use).
It seems to me that much of the social difficulty of finding it self-validating to have transitioned into being other than one's birth certificate defined gender/sex is much ado about loss of the direct connection between symbols and realities.
Not to discourage anyone from coming to the MoM, however, what I do, in public, as a bioengineer is about the connection between symbols and realities; there is a fancy word for that work, "biosemiotics."
Never met a state licensed professional engineer who does the work of a biosemiotician? Willing to meet one? Please come, if at all possible. I delight in meeting people, "face to face."
People who do not meet social convention stereotypes may experience harm from those who believe they have the right and the power to impose their beliefs onto those who do not share their beliefs.
I have found the MoMs of 2011 and 2012 to have been among the safest and most wonderfully beautiful experiences of my entire life.
Oh, my being autistic does not rule out my sitting quietly and listening to other people with care and caring, and does not rule out my talking some of the time.
At the past two MoMs, I have been able to help build, or rebuild, that direct connection between symbols and the realities so symbolized. The MoMs have helped me to reconnect that of my life which society has broken asunder.
I informed the Archive administrators of my intention to be at the 2013 MoM, much in the way I attended the 2012 and 2011 MoMs. Those who can attend and who are willing to encounter me "in person," I gently advise to also attend.
For whatever (nothing at all?) it may be worth, I am willing to be a tad more out, if not a tad more out of it. However, what is "it"?
I have been looking under furniture for loose change that may have fallen there, the better to pay for the gasoline needed for me to get to the MoM.
Not to criticize or find fault or complain, however, naming me "Jane Kane" is a tad like naming kristoff, "Krist Off"...
I am not any more a dual or more multiple personality; getting my orchiectomy and a plethora of other life experiences as made me functionally, internally and externally, as though one person who has, I tend to guess, a tad more of what is conventionally labeled feminine than labeled masculine, and I am not a member of the binary gender segment of humanity.
However, call me Jane Kane instead of janekane, and I really do not much mind. For that matter, call me late to dinner, and I do not much mind. Likewise for late to lunch or late to breakfast.
However, the MoM food has been magnificent, and I plan to call myself on time for breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, fellowship and comradery.
Perhaps somewhat as a result of the way I am apparently autistic, words and their context both challenge and intrigue me.
Our affluence has allowed us to erect a veil between dishonesty and its consequences. We can maintain the pretence that we are younger than we are, with help from skin lotions and cosmetic surgery; drugs can heighten our mood and dissolve our concerns for others; and we can convince ourselves of our environmental credentials with a monthly cheque to Greenpeace. Contrastingly, in those societies where the interweaving of human life and the physical environment anchors symbolism to the world in an urgent and immediate way, evasion and denial may immediately be life-threatening, making honesty a habit that is learned early in childhood. In how many 'Western' families could the following conversation, recorded by Edmund Carpenter in an igloo - have occurred?
One day when Kowanerk and I were alone, she looked up from the boot she was mending to ask, without preamble, 'Do we smell?' 'Yes.' Does the odour offend you?' 'Yes.' She sewed in silence for a while, then said, 'You smell and it's offensive to us. We wondered if we smell and if it offended you.' 143
Here is no relativistic comparison of alternative 'narratives' or 'constructions'. Words are used to refer to sensed realities in an immediate, undefensive, and honest way; and the realities that words are referring to are clearly understood as separate from the words themselves. In keeping with this distinction between language and reality, emotions may be felt but not talked about, just as the word may exist for a feeling which is seldom experienced. The story of our gradual loss of this direct connection between symbols and realities is a long and complex one that I will explore in the next chapter.
Kidner, Dr David W. (2012-03-06). Nature and Experience in the Culture of Delusion: How Industrial Society Lost Touch with Reality (p. 142). Palgrave Macmillan Monographs. Kindle Edition. (I {janekane} presume this quote, being 278 words, fits within copyright fair educational use).
It seems to me that much of the social difficulty of finding it self-validating to have transitioned into being other than one's birth certificate defined gender/sex is much ado about loss of the direct connection between symbols and realities.
Not to discourage anyone from coming to the MoM, however, what I do, in public, as a bioengineer is about the connection between symbols and realities; there is a fancy word for that work, "biosemiotics."
Never met a state licensed professional engineer who does the work of a biosemiotician? Willing to meet one? Please come, if at all possible. I delight in meeting people, "face to face."
People who do not meet social convention stereotypes may experience harm from those who believe they have the right and the power to impose their beliefs onto those who do not share their beliefs.
I have found the MoMs of 2011 and 2012 to have been among the safest and most wonderfully beautiful experiences of my entire life.
Oh, my being autistic does not rule out my sitting quietly and listening to other people with care and caring, and does not rule out my talking some of the time.
At the past two MoMs, I have been able to help build, or rebuild, that direct connection between symbols and the realities so symbolized. The MoMs have helped me to reconnect that of my life which society has broken asunder.
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My car may have just screwed up my trip to the MoM this year. As I was pulling into work, I lost all brakes. Big puddle of fluid under the car. If it costs too much to fix, I won't be able to afford to go. I couldn't be madder about this. I could NOT fix the car, and hang onto the money, but I need the car to get to the airport in Seattle. If I fix the car, I won't have the money. UUUGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!
Why does my life suck? I had such fun last year at the MoM. Best group of people I've ever met. I so want to go again, but now, unless the repairs turn out VERY cheap, I won't be able to go.
Why does my life suck? I had such fun last year at the MoM. Best group of people I've ever met. I so want to go again, but now, unless the repairs turn out VERY cheap, I won't be able to go.
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Cainanite (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:02 am My car may have just screwed up my trip to the MoM this year. As I was pulling into work, I lost all brakes. Big puddle of fluid under the car. If it costs too much to fix, I won't be able to afford to go. I couldn't be madder about this. I could NOT fix the car, and hang onto the money, but I need the car to get to the airport in Seattle. If I fix the car, I won't have the money. UUUGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!
Why does my life suck? I had such fun last year at the MoM. Best group of people I've ever met. I so want to go again, but now, unless the repairs turn out VERY cheap, I won't be able to go.
Sounds like you blew a brake line. Usually pretty easy to fix. Replace it, replace fluid, bleed the brakes, and done.
As well, could you get a friend to take you to Seattle?
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Sounds good in theory, but as the car is quite old, it may be an issue. Also, my friends either don't have their passport, or don't have a car.
I could bus it, but looking at cross border bus trip fares will probably be as much as it will be to fix the car. I just don't know right now. I'm still stuck at work.
I could bus it, but looking at cross border bus trip fares will probably be as much as it will be to fix the car. I just don't know right now. I'm still stuck at work.
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Car got me home... barely. I will take it into the shop first thing in the morning. I will hold out from despair until I know exactly how much it will cost.
Thanks for the concern guys.
Thanks for the concern guys.
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My best guess for now is that there are enough of "us" who were with you at last year's MoM who can pool enough resources to preclude your being unable to get to the MoM because of the financial cost of proper car repair.
I am far more than willing to do my affordable share of such a pooled effort.
To me, your presence at the MoM is way beyond too valuable for mere mortal money to prevent your coming.
Meanwhile, a rusted out brake line is a classical cause, though I am quite certain that your car has a dual circuit breaking system with separate brake fluid reservoirs for each hydraulic brake circuit. That, to me, suggests a "master cylinder" form of failure as being plausibly more likely than a brake line failure.
However, as I am writing this, you may very well be approaching waking up for today and doing what is needed for getting the facts.
Actual facts are always, in my life experience, more accurate than serious errors are.
Then there is that notion of counting one's blessings?
Would you prefer that the brake system failure happened 80 miles from the MoM, or do you prefer learning about a brake problem when it may be a mere inconvenience instead of a severe catastrophe?
My grasp of engineering has given me a simple sense of actual reality. "If it is physical, it will fail."
For me, that suggests that I may not forever be trapped in this world of supposed trials and tribulations.
I do eventually expect to arrive at genuine freedom from any and every form of physical-physiological suffering.
I am in no hurry whatsoever to experience that freedom.
I am far more than willing to do my affordable share of such a pooled effort.
To me, your presence at the MoM is way beyond too valuable for mere mortal money to prevent your coming.
Meanwhile, a rusted out brake line is a classical cause, though I am quite certain that your car has a dual circuit breaking system with separate brake fluid reservoirs for each hydraulic brake circuit. That, to me, suggests a "master cylinder" form of failure as being plausibly more likely than a brake line failure.
However, as I am writing this, you may very well be approaching waking up for today and doing what is needed for getting the facts.
Actual facts are always, in my life experience, more accurate than serious errors are.
Then there is that notion of counting one's blessings?
Would you prefer that the brake system failure happened 80 miles from the MoM, or do you prefer learning about a brake problem when it may be a mere inconvenience instead of a severe catastrophe?
My grasp of engineering has given me a simple sense of actual reality. "If it is physical, it will fail."
For me, that suggests that I may not forever be trapped in this world of supposed trials and tribulations.
I do eventually expect to arrive at genuine freedom from any and every form of physical-physiological suffering.
I am in no hurry whatsoever to experience that freedom.
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Addendum:
I have, on two occasions, experienced hydraulic brake failure while driving. On both occasions, having diligently maintained my vehicles' parking/emergency brake, I was able to complete the trip and get the hydraulic brake system properly repaired by using the parking/emergency brake.
Because even a dual hydraulic brake system has parts common to both brake circuits, I practice, from time to time, stopping using only the parking/emergency brake, so that I am already thoroughly familiar with how to works, and I drive so that I can almost certainly stop safely if I experience sudden and total hydraulic brake system failure.
People often honk at me for doing that.
I have, on two occasions, experienced hydraulic brake failure while driving. On both occasions, having diligently maintained my vehicles' parking/emergency brake, I was able to complete the trip and get the hydraulic brake system properly repaired by using the parking/emergency brake.
Because even a dual hydraulic brake system has parts common to both brake circuits, I practice, from time to time, stopping using only the parking/emergency brake, so that I am already thoroughly familiar with how to works, and I drive so that I can almost certainly stop safely if I experience sudden and total hydraulic brake system failure.
People often honk at me for doing that.
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I couldn't get in to see my mechanic today, but I have tomorrow off, and will see to it then.
For right now, I am going to try not to worry about it, and will try to focus my remaining energy on getting to the MoM however I can.
Somehow, I will see you all there. (I hope.)
For right now, I am going to try not to worry about it, and will try to focus my remaining energy on getting to the MoM however I can.
Somehow, I will see you all there. (I hope.)
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I feel sure you will be here one way or the other, let us know the cost of fixing your car.
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Just got the word back on my car, and my worst fears came true. It will simply be too expensive to fix right now. Now I need to consider what I can do to get to the MoM.
It doesn't rain...
Ugh.
It doesn't rain...
Ugh.
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"Too expensive" is a relative term.
Put a couple of on-the-fly-4wd wheel hubs in a Ford Explorer then we'll talk!
hehehe
Or we can chat tonight.
Put a couple of on-the-fly-4wd wheel hubs in a Ford Explorer then we'll talk!
hehehe
Or we can chat tonight.
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I hope you all have a very good time at the MoM. It will always bring positive memories in my mind. The core folks at Eunuch archive are very positive peoples. I enjoyed my times there. But I know that I will never see a MoM.. But to you who have not been to one, it is well worth going. Fine Peoples.
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I really wish I could attend and put faces with names. Just now I'm putting clothes in bags preparatory to having them boxed up and shipped to Christchurch, New Zealand where my lecture series begins. It's winter there so...apart from admiring the snow on the Southern Alps I'll be shivering all through NZ and Oz where central heating can mean a fireplace and/or a wood fueled stove. I'm stuck as visiting faculty is always expected to stay oncampus at some sort of suite. Or with faculty. Once I get to Darwin I'm with friends and it's in the tropical part so I can throw on shorts, a T and wander down to Fanny Bay to watch Salt Water Crocs chase tourists from the white, oh-so-inviting sand beach. Apparently they cannot read the warning signs which are in about ten languages. If you miss that, the crude drawings of Crocs taking a bather as lunch are very specific. So have a great time. Maybe another time. At least, until I fly non-stop from Brisbane to Dallas, no flight is over twelve hours long.....
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While other more mature members of the Archive here at the MOM discussed matters of great worldly importance, the more immature of us (myself, Cainanite, and a non-EA member) blew up some Diet Coke with Mentos all over ourselves and Talula's back yard!
Unfortunately, our youngest guest, age 3, had already gone home. We were hoping to corrupt him and make his mother crazy with exploding Coke bottles!
A good time was had by all, though.
Unfortunately, our youngest guest, age 3, had already gone home. We were hoping to corrupt him and make his mother crazy with exploding Coke bottles!
A good time was had by all, though.