Is it possible to remove all attraction towards girls

shadow1ninja (imported) · Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:04 am

To not desire a girl in anyway for example a girl would be as valuable as a empty card board box.. I have been on dutasteride and Siterone. dutasteride over 1 year and siterone for around 5-6 months. I have most effects almost to the point where i do not like girls. no urges, no fantaises, no porn, none of it.. can long-term chemical castration help towards removing all attraction towards girls? any thoughts?

daifu-orchid (imported) · Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:35 pm

I would think that if it does in the short-term it might for longer.

While a sexual attraction may or may not be as one wants, it seems to me that girls, boys and those I'm not sure what they are, count among my friends. I would hate to find any group/gender of them unattractive; life would be the poorer for the loss of any as friends and companions? Do I wish to copulate with any? Yes, just one and she's at home.

-But all the rest are treasured by both of us, whatever their persuasion, orientation, whatever. I guess we're easily amused, but we most assuredly recommend inclusion. We'd make lousy hermits.

I had a time with no HRT, and it felt very different, maybe good for some but I felt in no way attracted to anyone, and lost much energy for life. I remember my normally tough and somewhat greasy skin became smoother, barer, and acquired a different smell. Not unpleasant, more like a girl, but different from what I liked about me before. The flashes didn't help me like it any more either. I am sure that others find the bare eunuch state far preferable, and I wish them the best with it.

Maybe Shadow1ninja or others can tell more?

Losethem (imported) · Post by **Losethem (imported)** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:49 pm

Yes. Being a gay male I can say all you need to do is let them touch you and their cooties get all over you. That pretty much solves it.

In all seriousness, I doubt you'll be able to remove all desire if you're inclined or very driven towards being with women now, though castration should diminish the desire significantly. I was still interested in guys when I was off my HRT for a while but didn't feel as driven to have sex. I would imagine that would be the case in your situation but with females.

Everyone will react differently to castration, though from what I understand what I've said above is generally true - the desire doesn't go away completely, but you find it more manageable.

--LT

nvrgag44 (imported) · Post by **nvrgag44 (imported)** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:26 pm

I've still married to the first wife and love her dearly but we haven't had sex in many years. We still hug, kiss and say, "I love you" but it's more like deep friendship or my sister. I was bi most of my life beginning in adolescence but men were always more exciting. My attraction to women just went away on its own and for decades now I've only been attracted to men. It just happened, I never took any drugs to cause the change.

shadow1ninja (imported) · Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:53 pm

i think chemical castration drugs longterm would help lots.. soon i will be completely never ever thinking they are even slightly valuable as i will have no choice but to be single for ever as i have no access to girls unless i pay for a hooker/escort

Jorge2008 (imported) · Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:02 am

I think you might want to take a look at this thread too http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread ... t-hormones. The author points out that there's probably more than just sex hormones behind our desire. Also, drugs that do NOT affect sex hormones have been used to reduce sex drive in the past. Like neuroleptics (which reduce dopamine levels and raise prolactin levels - both of which changes are said to reduce libido). Benperidol (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/depression/m ... nquil.html)is the one that was formerly used for that purposes but the drug has vey poor side-effects profile at least in higher doses. I'm currently on Chlorpromazine - also a typical neuroleptic, that my psychiatrist said was used in the Soviet Army to reduce men's sex drive. Also, I've seen an article in Russian where it was mentioned that Chlorpromazine was used in studies in the USSR to curb sex drive in case of homosexuality (i.e. to ''cure'' it). Similarily, antidepressants in higher than usual dosage are likely to reduce desire (and it's easier to get prescriptions to those drugs).

shadow1ninja (imported) wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:53 pm i think chemical castration drugs longterm would help lots.. soon i will be completely never ever thinking they are even slightly valuable as i will have no choice but to be single for ever as i have no access to girls unless i pay for a hooker/escort

shadow1ninja (imported) · Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:36 am

Great idea, can add Generic prozac into what i take or Anti-depressant with side effects

_g (imported) · Post by **_g (imported)** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:40 am

shadow1ninja (imported) wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:53 pm i think chemical castration drugs longterm would help lots.. soon i will be completely never ever thinking they are even slightly valuable as i will have no choice but to be single for ever as i have no access to girls unless i pay for a hooker/escort

Long term use of chemical castration drugs, has some non-revisable effects. The main one being Atrophy of the Testicles, the time it takes varies from a few months to a year or more. As long you are taking the drugs most will not be able to function as a male.

As to your statement "i have no access to girls" is BS unless your are in a Jail. If you go to church, or any other activities you can always meet women.

_g

shadow1ninja (imported) · Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:12 am

No access to girls as in they are choosing who they want, they are full of ideals, status, career, personality, confidence, appearance, etc the list goes on you either got be successful at most things or if your below average its impossible.. no way will i pay again, i spend too much on it before, probably 3,000 to 5,000 from 16yrs old to 20yrs old. i made no girl - friends and never can, i used to be full of false hope that i could get a girl to like me and it wont happen and has not, this is fault of the girls not mine. if i had a chance i would have a girlfriend and not be taking chemical castration drugs. to every girl from beautiful to not beautiful they would have options of men to choose from, could be 100s or less than 20 and they can get into relationships in a split second... a male needs high value to be into a relationship including social status, excellent career, car, personality, overall appeal and a combination of many amazing things.

Jorge2008 (imported) · Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:10 am

In fact, I've never understood why so many men are wasting their money on prostitutes instead of seeking meds to lower their sex drive. Internet dating sites are full of frustrated men who are willing to offer money to even not-cute women for sex. Irrational.

plix (imported) · Post by **plix (imported)** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:15 am

I make very little money, don't have much in the way of a career (at least that is the way most people would see what I do), drive an older car, and I have the added problem of being short (I tend to see this as one of the biggest obstacles to finding a partner, probably because it is a circumstance I personally experience - if you are fortunate enough to be tall or at least average height, I believe that half the work is done for you already). Yet even though I don't fit the formula you describe at all, I know for sure that two women have been interested in me, and it is possible there have been others I was not aware of. So I'm not so sure that men need any of those things to find a partner (though it is possible that having some or all of them makes it easier). However, I will give you that the women who were interested in me were not my ideal partner, and I am not willing to settle just because I can't seem to find the person I am looking for.

But as I said, the part of what you say that might have some truth to it is that a wealthy man will have an easier time finding a partner. Evolution probably plays a role here - certainly there was a time when men were the sole providers for the family, and women were attracted to men who could do the best job of providing. Back then it might have been the physically strongest men, but today that translates to the men who have the most money. So while I am not going to deny that money might make it easier to attract a woman, I know that I would not be compatible with a woman who insists that I am or that I become rich. Fortunately there are women out there who feel as I do, but they do seem to be a lot harder to find.

Yes, there are times when I think a relationship would be nice, but I also see a bright side to being single, and I know that I will be able to appreciate that for as long as it lasts (even if it does turn out to be for life).

As for whether all attraction can be removed, I have my doubts, at least for me. Yesterday I was out with a group of people, and there was a woman in the group who I found very attractive. I had no desire to have sex with her, but I still thought she was very pretty. I think that has been my experience since dropping the T - while I still find women attractive, I have little to no desire to have sex with them. But of course everyone is different!

~Tiamat~ (imported) · Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:39 am

shadow1ninja (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:12 am a male needs high value to be into a relationship including social status, excellent career, car, personality, overall appeal and a combination of many amazing things.

How much are you going to have in common with a woman who is only interested in these things anyway?! You're only young; as you grow up the women around you will too. If you're interested in teenagers perhaps that's half the problem.

Enjoy yourself and people will enjoy your company. Accept your quirks and people will enjoy those too.

One thing is almost for certain; if your T is low you're never going to be rich or confident and you're never going to have the status, career and car you feel you need. Blame the fucking patriarchy.

You seem to be enjoying your time when you pay for it and just wishing you didn't have to hand over money. Instead of trying to build a relationship on things you DON'T have why not build it on things you DO. Instead of "getting a girl to like you" why not hang around mixed company who share your interests. A lot of guys think they can go out and pick up the girl they want like they're choosing them from a menu. Not EVERYONE is doing this and don't let them bullshit you into thinking they are.

Oh, and paying a 16-17 year old for sex is illegal in the UK. Just so you're aware.

moi621 (imported) · Post by **moi621 (imported)** » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:03 pm

" Old habits die hard. "

Moi

paring (imported) · Post by **paring (imported)** » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:49 am

Unfortunately it's not possible. Castration only removes your testicles not your eye balls. What was beautiful before will remain beautiful after. LOL

shadow1ninja (imported) · Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:53 am

I really want totally not have any attraction towards girls.. i never dated a girl and its mostly not possible. girls are pursuing a man that is attractive, confident, excellent career, cars, personality and there is a combination needed to be this type of person who can score a girl. i only ever paid prostitutes for a erotic service which is short-lived and very expensive. i had to go on castration drugs to feel better. girls have ultimate choice in who they want. for every girl there is plenty of male interest and too much competition.

paring (imported) · Post by **paring (imported)** » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:13 am

I understand you point, I've been there too but castration does so much more than lower your libido. Even if it would remove all attraction to women, you'd still be a human being, who need love and affection. Most eunuchs here are either in partnership or old enough they don't have as much life to live as you do. I've had my lot of difficulties with women, at one point I've tried to castrate my self not to have sex with them ever again. I was straight just like you and homophobic. The urge to be with and feel the warmth of human being, brought me to try men. This wasn't easy but sex with men was so much easier and less complicated than with women. I've no regrets. So, perhaps before ruining you life and your health you could give a try and discover a new world. I'm still attracted to women but when I think of what would arise from a relationship with a woman, I prefer to look away. No man has ever broken my hearth yet.

Jorge2008 (imported) · Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:14 pm

This is definitely a good idea. It took me years before I realized I was really bisexual, though definitely straight-leaning. It's much easier to attract men. However, as I only consider really cute men as a partner, I've had to reject a number of eligible guys and got rejected awful lot of times by men I really considered as cute. Anyway I've had dates with guys and plan to have a sexdate with a guy who's living in Finland. But my advice to shadow1ninja would still be not to give up on women totally, even I get some limited attention from girls on dating sites and it costs no money - hence worth of trying.

paring (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:13 am I understand you point, I've been there too but castration does so much more than lower your libido. Even if it would remove all attraction to women, you'd still be a human being, who need love and affection. Most eunuchs here are either in partnership or old enough they don't have as much life to live as you do. I've had my lot of difficulties with women, at one point I've tried to castrate my self not to have sex with them ever again. I was straight just like you and homophobic. The urge to be with and feel the warmth of human being, brought me to try men. This wasn't easy but sex with men was so much easier and less complicated than with women. I've no regrets. So, perhaps before ruining you life and your health you could give a try and discover a new world. I'm still attracted to women but when I think of what would arise from a relationship with a woman, I prefer to look away. No man has ever broken my hearth yet.

daifu-orchid (imported) · Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:15 pm

Yes, keep in touch with others, even if you don't feel attracted or attractive right now.

No man is an island,

Entire of itself,

Every man is a piece of the continent,

A part of the main.*

Relationships, platonic to the juiciest, come in so many forms to nourish the soul. Don't give up on any of us just yet. Girls or the rest of us. Some of us are even kinda nice to have around....

*John Donne, Anne Donne, Undone....

madmickx (imported) · Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:05 pm

shadow1ninja (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:53 am I really want totally not have any attraction towards girls.. i never dated a girl and its mostly not possible. girls are pursuing a man that is attractive, confident, excellent career, cars, personality and there is a combination needed to be this type of person who can score a girl. i only ever paid prostitutes for a erotic service which is short-lived and very expensive. i had to go on castration drugs to feel better. girls have ultimate choice in who they want. for every girl there is plenty of male interest and too much competition.

Hi Shadow.

For what it is worth, I, too am neither rich, outstandingly successful or particularly attractive physically. On a ten point scale of appeal to the ladies, even at my physical peak, I would give myself 6 - 7 on my best days.

However, I am married and have been for quite a few years, have raised two children, both of whom became successful and decent adults who are now providing me with grandchildren. I also have a fairly wide circle of male and female friends and, in particular, I enjoy being old enough to relate to women of all ages without sexual desire intruding.

Let me acquaint you with a couple of life's stone-cold certainties. The ladies you mention who are only interested in rich, attractive alpha males are not worth having as friends or partners. Forget about them. Likewise, the ladies of the willow world may allow you to have sex with them for payment but on a personal level they wouldn't care if you fell under a bus on your way home. They are o.k. for a bit of occasional fun but only if you can afford them.

There are plenty of girls/women out there who feel pretty much the same way you do and unless you look like Shrek with a poisonous personality and no social skills they would be more than happy to settle for what you can offer them.

My advice, for what it is worth, is stop focussing on what you don't have and take inventory of your good points. Put yourself "out there" in social situations where you can meet women and start talking to them and soon enough someone will take an interest in you.

Winners never quit: Quitters never win.

Neutered (imported) · Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:51 pm

If you don't like yourself how the hell do you expect someone else to like you? Castrating yourself and hiding in the back room is only going to make things worse than they already are for you. Oh, and even Shrek found a girlfriend...

_g (imported) · Post by **_g (imported)** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:59 am

Neutered (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:51 pm If you don't like yourself how the hell do you expect someone else to like you? Castrating yourself and hiding in the back room is only going to make things worse than they already are for you. Oh, and even Shrek found a girlfriend...

I totally agree but I doubt he will seek help for his problem:(

_g

Riverwind (imported) · Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:48 am

I also agree, I thought that from his first post. His problem is a low opinion of himself.

That,

And my grandkids are into girls, my adult sons and grandsons are into women, not girls.

River

Mac (imported) · Post by **Mac (imported)** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:31 am

Only had interest in girls when young and women now. Would still only have interest in women now even if I could be total nullo.

shadow1ninja (imported) · Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:35 am

I have recently started a life style change. Weight lifting and Running. This is to improve upon myself and be the best version I can be. I think for sure almost any girl/women have choices to pick out of, to each female they have options from relationships to one night stands with very little difficulty. Most girls are after the best man possible. this leaves me with low chances. The gender differences is what makes it hard for me. a female almost all would pick someone who is successful at most things in life. Without lots of confidence, good career, personality, and being highly appealing there is little to no chances there. basically a female can choose someone who does have these things. I am talking about girls who are average are set this way. they wont just easily be with any man who likes them?, plus in fact they have lots of men who like them, most girls all shapes and sizes get plenty of attention, it would be ideal if i ever had a chance to get a decent female but seems I must accept being single. the problem is mostly about the gender differences.

Riverwind (imported) · Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:58 am

Not only do you sell yourself short but women as well. There are lots of women out there looking for an honest guy, he dose not need to be all the things you list, then again what do I know, I am sure you are right after all your what, 20?

If you can't find a young lady that is interested in you, you are looking in the wrong places for the wrong women.

Try looking for a gal that is interested in the same things you are, you might be surprised at what you find. Stop trying to be something your not, be who you are, and one other thing, quit pouting and hold your head high.

River

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