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Rocket Number Nine (imported)
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Can't orgasm

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Is there any way to fix this issue without adding any extra hormones into the mix? I can basically get near the edge but I can't get pushed over it at all, except very rarely and with much difficulty. Over time things have increasingly gone more towards a great difficulty in achieving orgasm. Low sex drive isn't even the issue - I have a low sex drive but I also still enjoy sex and am definitely into it in the moment, but in the moment I can only get very close to orgasm, it almost never goes all the way, even after hours of strong stimulation.

Also it isn't an issue about my partner, I'm very into him. I feel like I'm letting him down and making him feel inadequate because he can't make me orgasm (even though I can't even make myself either).

Anyone had similar issues? Any ways to fix it or make it less of a problem?
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Even on TRT I would say it can take much longer.

So much of it is mental as well... Try relaxing more? If the emphasis of sex is only on orgasm then it can get stressful
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So much of it is mental as well...

I think that is perhaps part of it sometimes. It feels kind of like there's just this wall at this certain point and at times it feels almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy - I'll get close and then think about how I haven't been able to, and then I wait for it to roll over the edge and it just doesn't and I just think more about how I haven't been able to, and the cycle continues or I fall back from the edge and have to build back up again, or I give up.

But then other times I'm pretty relaxed, particularly if I've had luck with it recently, yet I'll still have a really hard time going over the edge or even getting there.

I can deal with it but I still want to have them happen really bad every time, and I feel disappointed and cheated when I can't make it happen. It's already been a while since the last time I had one, and I miss it, it's like having an itch that I can't scratch.
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A puzzle: when I had no TRT, I had no orgasm, and no interest in one, but life was very good and full.

Now with T shots once weekly, I function well enough for a man of my age, but I feel that I am probably missing out on how good it used to feel with no T, good, but not really as happy as the eunuch state I enjoyed for just a few months.
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I do give myself an estrogen injection weekly, and while I get a libido spike the days following it, I still usually can't orgasm. Actually having some form of active sex drive and wanting sex yet not being able to finish, it's a huge let down. I can't increase the dosage seeing as my levels are pretty good where it's at, and I don't want to add progesterone or anything like that because it could cause further breast growth, which I do not want at all. So here I am trying to figure out if there is some other way to make it easier.
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I have found the manipulating the penis along with rubbing the pubic area above the penis will create orgasm. No ejaculation of course but very good orgasms.
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I will try that next time, and I appreciate any suggestions.

I feel like I'm being a bit lewd with this, but: one of my concerns is that physical stimulation won't help much in that what once was my maximally effective method (8 inch x 2 inch powerfully vibrating object inserted, combined with stimulation of penis and other erogenous zones, all manipulation being done by my partner) is currently unable to achieve results, despite getting very close, right to the knife edge, red-in-the-face, uncontrollably shaky legs, so on and so forth, everything that happens -right- before an orgasm, but it just won't go over the edge. It even makes it worse considering after we quit such a session I'm basically in a low grade horniness for about a whole day after just from the freshly-pounded feeling, which just makes me want it again.

I know I've taken things in the past that have made it more difficult to orgasm (aside from Androcur ;)) - 5-HTP for example, definitely made it harder. Is there anything out there that has the opposite effect, and makes it easier instead?
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Three days after my castration I could no longer achieve errection or orgasm, I went on TRT two weeks after castration and within two days began having normal errections and orgasms again (with ejaculate). I agree that a lot of it is mental but the right hormone mixture does make it easier obviously. I do know a castrated pre-op transexual that can achieve errections and orgasm with estrogen, of course her penis is still smaller than usual and she produces no ejaculate but she says the orgasms (while not easy to achieve) are amazing.

What's the old song say...Relax, just do it...

:)
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Are you taking any kind of medications? Some, particularly the SSRI's used to treat depression and PTSD, will cause what they call in the literature; "a delayed ejaculation". Also blood pressure drugs and a number of others can have a detrimental effect on sexual activities.
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GeldedCowboy (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:18 am I do know a castrated pre-op transexual that can achieve errections and orgasm with estrogen, of course her penis is still smaller than usual and she produces no ejaculate but she says the orgasms (while not easy to achieve) are amazing.

What's the old song say...Relax, just do it...

:)

Well when they do happen they are definitely better than they were before I did all this to myself. More of a full body feeling and of longer duration, hard to describe but it just has a different quality and nature to it. And yeah zero ejaculate. Perhaps part of my issue is the fact that I don't exactly get fully hard? Often I'm mostly or totally flaccid during sex.

Relaxing is definitely one of the issues I have at times but I don't think it's the full picture because I have had difficulty even while I would have considered myself relaxed.

As far as hormones go I don't really want to try changing anything. Increasing estrogen/changing administration route or adding progesterone could lead to further feminization, which is undesired, even though it would likely fix this issue. I already look like this, which is a bit too far, I don't want it going any fa
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Are you taking any kind of medications? Some, particularly the SSRI's used to treat depression and PTSD, will cause what they call in the literature; "a delayed ejaculation". Also blood pressure drugs and a number o
f others can have a detrimental effect on sexual activities.

Aside from Androcur and estradiol valerate injections I don't take anything. I actually quit using nicotine somewhat recently (around about a month ago), could that be related? When I quit I was a moderate user but once was a very heavy user.
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it sounds like the lack of erections might be the biggest part of your problem physically. Have you tried viagra? I mentioned your problem in a generic way (one that effects all eunuchs), to the pre-op transexual friend I mentioned earlier. She has done some porn to pay the bills over the years and she said that when she knew she was going to have to get an erection under a stressful situation like being filmed, she would take a viagra. Apparently testosterone is not necessary for viagra to work...

Just food for thought.
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GeldedCowboy (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:03 pm it sounds like the lack of erections might be the biggest part of your problem physically. Have you tried viagra?

I think you are right that it's a significant contributing factor. I have had orgasms without erections plenty of times but it's never been easy and takes a lot of physical and mental effort. I've never tried viagra but I would be open to it and might consider it now. I do have a source for it. The only thing I wonder is if it might make me get erections easily but make it harder to get orgasms, as I have heard of some people having difficulty having an orgasm on viagra and cialis. But it is worth a shot for sure.
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Cialis or viagra are definitely worth trying. I don't really need it, but after taking Cialis it is like I'm 18 again and I feel more sexual. Most days I'd rather have no sex drive, but if I want to go the other way I can.
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Rocket Number Nine i suppose not being able to orgasm or ejaculate is one of the effects of the Androcur which I am seeking but hope is part of the libido reduction. If I take Androcur, I don't think I will be bothered as long as I enjoy both results. I am still not certain what your motive is for taking Androcur if you don't want to enjoy the eunuch' effect. It seems you might be trying to have it both ways and succeeding in neither. Perhaps you need to decide if you really want to be a eunuch?
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experiment (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:18 am I am still not certain what your motive is for taking Androcur if you don't want to enjoy the eunuch' effect. It seems you might be trying to have it both ways and succeeding in neither. Perhaps you need to decide if you really want to be a eunuch?

I am 100% certain that this is the right path for me, my motivations do differ from many here though. My main goal in taking this stuff never had anything to do with my sex drive. Before I started, I knew that things like this might happen and that I'd experience a very lowered and changed sex drive. I viewed the sex drive reduction as a positive side-effect (in general it has been, too), and the potential for not being able to get erect or orgasm as a potentially negative side-effect. In my eyes it was and still is an acceptable trade-off. It's not the only trade-off I accepted either; I didn't want breasts and often don't like having them and hiding them, I don't enjoy the various impacts my appearance has had on social interaction either, but to me they are acceptable trade-offs.

My motivation for taking this stuff is this: I didn't want to get any more masculine, and in fact wanted to decrease it. I deeply loathed many of the masculine qualities about my body, i.e. body hair, muscle size/shape, skin, so on and so forth. I hated watching them get more prominent as I aged. For a long time I toyed with the idea of doing this in my head, and eventually I grew so sick of my increasing masculinity that I had to stop it. It had begun to bother me to look in the mirror. I wanted to be more like I was in my teenage years, and I definitely didn't want the masculinity to get worse. I would have rather risked becoming too feminine than take the guarantee of being too masculine. This is what nudged me over the line to make the decision. I had known several trans girls and seen what anti-androgens and estrogen did to them, and I wanted to use the same medications as them to modify my appearance, but without doing any "transitioning" like them and instead trying to use them to obtain an unnaturally youthful and effeminate male appearance. I never wanted to be a girl or anything like that. I just wanted to be effeminate and cute. Looking back there might have been better alternatives but I simply didn't have the knowledge I have now.

I do enjoy my body much more now that it is like this, even if having done this to myself has some downsides. The rewards for me are far greater than the downsides. I would never want to go back. In fact I'm seriously considering using calcium chloride injections into my balls to finish them off for good. I've read the entire calcium chloride thread, and I know I could do it, but I'm still not sure if I'm going to. I may just save up and get them removed surgically without doing any self-harm to get it done. Regardless, eventually I want them either completely removed or rendered incapable of producing testosterone. Either outcome is fine by me, but it is very important to me that I get one of them done eventually. I hate having dormant testosterone factories attached to me, kept suppressed only by a medication that I can't even be prescribed in my country, and have to order online. I really don't like feeling like my supply could get cut off at any moment and I'd be screwed. I also don't like knowing that this stuff is harmful to my liver. I digress though.

In a nutshell: I'm taking this stuff purely to modify my appearance (I suppose now it's more to maintain that appearance) and for no other reason. Anything else is viewed by me as either a positive, neutral, or negative side-effect. I wouldn't say it's vain either, because I'm modifying it so that I feel more comfortable with myself. I really don't want to age into a yeti. Even if that meant never having another orgasm in my life, that'd be fine so long as I don't become the metaphorical yeti.

It annoys me to have these difficulties with erections, orgasms, etc. but in the big picture it's well worth it.
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Androcur will raise your prolactin levels so you may want to have that looked at.

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/10.1 ... 9.SAT-0111
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Hi. Okay here goes and some of this you might find frustrating, i don't know, but it works for me.

Do to the fact i was abused as a young girl-child orgasms are a major problem for me. Plus, I'm a control freak in the extreme, it means, yes if i have partner ships with males i control as much as i possibly can. It sadly enough also means to me at least relaxing so much i can lie down, close eyes and orgasm is a major problem. I can often like you get close, but, not reach it.

This was until i broke down crying too one of my Gfs who is a DR. and had a teary talk about it , she she said was make more noises and breathe in different ways. That did it for me :)
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What about prostate massage (stimulation)? I hear those orgasms are quite huge! ;-)
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