Circumcisions taking more and more skin off down the penis shafts now ?

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

All very good reasoning and based in reality TopManFL. I agree.

Past years of working as a Phy Ed teacher and Coach for different ages, the younger teens and boys did ask me a lot of serious questions about circumcision, their bodies, and sex. Young males will ask lots of questions if they trust you enough, and know you will be ok with them seriously asking you even the most sexual questions, and know you will give them truthful, confidential, accurate, and full answers, and not shame them or blow off their questions or get embarrassed by them. Older teens and adults will in that setting and situation also.

Teaching and leading by example works really well with most people. A lot of today s Coaches and Phy Ed teachers are so afraid of being accused of sexual or inappropriate interaction with any students that they d let their young males tease, harrass, bully, and even beat each other up in the showers or locker rooms before they d risk supervising naked boys and teens closely and effectively. This makes the boys and teens even more ashamed and relluctant to undress or shower to get cleaned up in groups. Leaving young males seeing fewer peers openly naked to learn and compare with.

The current pendulum has swung so far away from nude swimming in segregated Phy Ed classes, nude wrestling weight ins, jockstrap and nut cup checks, and similar past procedures to now teachers and coaches often being fearful of their own athletes and students and afraid of any nudity or sexual normalcy in schools and sports.

But these young guys and boys need responsible adult male guidance and interaction more than ever with so many fatherless homes, gay and straight questions, adults afraid to interact with all minors, and anti male propaganda surrounding them, aggressive females, as examples of what many young males face today.

Young males need to ask questions and get answers from adult men more than ever now.

But in circumcision and looking like all the other boys, both cut and uncut are frequent and considered normal in young males in most USA places now. I m guessing being cut in many other countries now would make a male stick out as different from most boys.

The internet has great information on regional, national, and international percentages and ages of circumcisions in recent years. The southern and especially western USA youth are less circumcised than the northern and eastern youth. And the percentage of uncircumcised infants has been rising dramatically in the entire US.

Progress is being made in letting boys remain intact and deciding for themselves as men.

[stephaniesteve1 (imported)]

I think the internet has much to answer fo in setting the trend for tight radical circumcisions.The pictures of tight smooth erect cocks must have an effect on teenagers.I am against forced or RIC as it deprives the boy of a lot of pleasure and the right to choose circ.I was not cut as a child and it was not until a teenager that I even became aware of the issue.I went through to middle age happily with a foreskin. The advent of the internet and my fascination with cut cocks eventually led to me getting circed.I had a high and tight circ and enjoyed the process .That was the first of 4 times under the knife.The original was not tight enough for my liking so I was recirced tighter a year later.Back for another round 2 years later and a 4th time a few months ago.I now have no mobile skin when erect ,just like the pictures on the internet. I am glad I was uncut as a youth so that I could enjoy modifying my own cock in the way I wanted.

[MikeGrant (imported)]

Wow Stephaniesteve1! How easy was it to find someone to keep doing tighter and tighter circs? I have been checking out a couple of UK circ clinics and they do say you can choose what style you want, but say very high and tight are better done as an infant so the shaft skin has time to stretch to fit erections in puberty. I can imagine it being an awkward conversation with a Dr, asking for something very high and very tight. At what point do they think its becoming fetish like mutilation? I am sure if you find the right DR, he will understand that and even condone.

[paring (imported)]

Infant circumcision has a lot to do with circumfetishism from the parents and surgeons as well. Physicians are human being just like every one of us here and they do have their own fantasies. Some physicians are clearly circumfetishists while others are into castration. According to a European physician only 1 boys aout of 16000 need to be circumcised https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater . So most boys in USA and Canada who get circumcised in infancy are done for only fetishistic purpose. Unlike Stephaniesteve1 most of them (2 out of 3) will have resentment about their circumcision. That's why I'm totally opposed to infant circumcision. Infant circumcision should be banned, it's better to wait till the boy is adult to modify their genitals or any other part of their bodies, at his demand for his liking. Same goes for castration, that'd be unethical to do it in infancy.

[MikeGrant (imported)]

i would actually like the circumference of the tip of my foreskin reduced. Does that make sense? It rolls back too easily. Do people do that?

[paring (imported)]

i would actually like the circumference of the tip of my foreskin reduced. Does that make sense? It rolls back too easily. Do people do that?

Usually, men get circumcised because their foreskin doesn't roll back. Plus surgeons in USA are much better at destroying good functioning foreskins rather than fixing them up. Good luck !

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

i would actually like the circumference of the tip of my foreskin reduced. Does that make sense? It rolls back too easily. Do people do that?

A dr should be able to do a simple nip and tuck to tighten it up. Just finding one to cooperate, and know most health insurance companies would deny the payment as being not medically necessary and for cosmetic reasons only. Those would be the problems in doing that.

The easiest and cheapest would be a simple foreskin piercing with a ring or barbell to cinch in the area you want tighter. Plus it would be removable for sex and could be changed any time as your foreskin stretches out in the future. Just don t make it too tight and start getting phimosis problems from it.

[stephaniesteve1 (imported)]

Wow Stephaniesteve1! How easy was it to find someone to keep doing tighter and tighter circs? I have been checking out a couple of UK circ clinics and they do say you can choose what style you want, but say very high and tight are better done as an infant so the shaft skin has time to stretch to fit erections in puberty. I can imagine it being an awkward conversation with a Dr, asking for something very high and very tight. At what point do they think its becoming fetish like mutilation? I am sure if you find the right DR, he will understand that and even condone.

I went to a clinic near Luton for the first circ, when I called them and said it was not as tight as expected they recirced free of charge. A different London clinic was happy to tighten up since I still had inner foreskin following a high sleeve circ. The last circ I found a new clinic in Sheffield and told them that I had shrunk so much after my castration(true) that I needed to be tightened up. No questions asked, they just took the money.(and did a good job)

[MikeGrant (imported)]

I went to a clinic near Luton for the first circ, when I called them and said it was not as tight as expected they recirced free of charge. A different London clinic was happy to tighten up since I still had inner foreskin following a high sleeve circ. The last circ I found a new clinic in Sheffield and told them that I had shrunk so much after my castration(true) that I needed to be tightened up. No questions asked, they just took the money.(and did a good job)

Wow! lol, like getting body work done on a car! Yea, they didnt do a great job. Sure we can tighten that up for you.

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

Yep, car up on the lift, foreskin, balls, dick -all taken care of!

Seems that most docs are very cautious about castrating, but once it's done, all you have to do is pay the money and they'll prune just about anything.

The old doc who did my scrotum was very professional, as he took the fee and did a fine job.

Should I return for a redo circ for a bargain price? Don't know but the idea of a radical circ sometimes seems fun, perhaps before getting nulled and routed.. (I believe they take all the shaft skin, leaving the penis visible as just a "button" of a glans. Can you imagine how an erection might feel?)

[MikeGrant (imported)]

I contacted a clinic in Miami, and asked if they would still need a letter from a psychiatrist if i was already castrated and just wanted my scrotum removed. "We do require a letter from a psychiatrist for any surgical ablation of male genitalia."

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

MikeGrant,

Too bad they aren t that picky about skinning baby dicks and carving their frenulums completely off for no reason and with no permission from the owners of those penises ! My how they do change their rules and get sudden queasiness and lawsuit paranoid about abalation of male genitalia in consenting adults huh ?

[paring (imported)]

They should ask parents for psychological evaluation before the procedure.

[Paolo]

I wouldn't say that the RIC's around here are "skinning baby dicks and carving off frenulums". 'Grand'son 1 and 2 both have average penises, with plenty of loose skin and frenulums intact. Yes, I have done diapers. God, have I done diapers...

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

I m glad to hear your grandsons had a more reasonable dr than many men had. Carving frenulums completely off penises has zero medical necessity or justification and yet it does happen a lot. Its purely to deprive the man of all those intense sexual nerves and pleasures of intact frenulums. The definition of circumcision by law, and the accepted standards of care should outlaw doing that to any male. That s cruel butchery and not a medical procedure of any kind.

With our horrible judges and legal system, suing those drs for cruelty and unjustified destruction of frenulums wouldn t be allowed because of the ignorant parents consent to a circumcision, which doesn t include carving off the entire frenulum. Those drs were sick perverts to destroy the entire frenulum for no reason. Any device that does that as part of a circumcision is designed to mutilate should be illegal and considered as illegal and barbaric as female circumcision is in western cultures.

I hope your grandsons still have some extra foreskin after puberty. They won t know how tight they were cut until they finish growing their penises to full adult sizes.

I don t have any opportunity to see frenulums on any of the under aged males. But among grown men, completely removed frenulums are common in my experiences. Which is really rotten of those drs to do to any male and is clearly blatent mutilation and malpractice to ever being claimed as any benefit to any male or a necessary part of a circumcision !

[Paolo]

You're not missing anything, trust me.

From my one sample here, I'd say the local was not removing frenums from infants in 2014. Granted, this hardly makes for an academic study.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

I wonder why any dr would ever remove the frenulum ? It has nothing to do with uncovering the head of the penis or cleaning or any of the other excuses for doing circs. It only deprives the man of one of his most pleasurable sex organs for no reason.

I hope drs did stop destroying frenulums for no reason.

Its great seeing more of the world rejecting this barbaric mutilation every year. Its enough to make you hate the demented religions that impose these cruel ideas on people.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

The best excuse that I hear most religions come up with to require or support circumcision is it being a " covenant with God " or similar utter lies. Instead of sacrificing all your sons by murder to make their demented ideas of God happy, you sacrifice all of your sons penis foreskins to make God happy.

Sounds a lot like rip the best looking maiden and young warrior s hearts out on an alter to please blood thirsty Gods. And usually to the cheers of bloodthirsty " devoted believers " eagerly following the most evil and demented leader they can dig up under a rock somewhere.

You d think educated people claiming to be civilized and moral would demand more reasons than that to mutilate their own babies and destroy an important part of a man s penis without his permission.

I d love to see a huge class action lawsuit against every religion worldwide that encourages infant circumcision and every medical " professional " or witch drs doing any cutting. Let them generously pay all the men deprived of their foreskins as penalties and compensation for reducing men s sexual pleasures and changing their looks for zero reasons.

[paring (imported)]

I wouldn't say that the RIC's around here are "skinning baby dicks and carving off frenulums". 'Grand'son 1 and 2 both have average penises, with plenty of loose skin and frenulums intact. Yes, I have done diapers. God, have I done diapers...

The average size of circumcised penises are .5" shorter than intact men. The more skin that is removed, the shorter it gets.

[stephaniesteve1 (imported)]

The average size of circumcised penises are .5" shorter than intact men. The more skin that is removed, the shorter it gets.

I shrank about 25 % after castration and lost about another inch after tight circumcision, just what I wanted.

[paring (imported)]

Size doesn't really matter to a castrated man but for a sexually active man it does.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

Paring,

A half inch lost to circumcision. That s a significant amount in percentage terms of the entire penis. It makes you wonder how that impacts erections and life long penis blood circulation and health ? That can t be healthy for the penis or erection abilities.

Stephaniesteve1, losing an inch of erect length to a tight circumcision is again a significant percentage of total length and size reduction of an already mature and larger uncut penis. A tight circ before puberty might force a smaller penis growth if it can reverse size in a mature and larger penis to shrink. I m surprised that castration didn t cause more than a 25% size reduction unless you had some artificial T to remain able to have erections after your castration. Erections seem to be necessary to avoid penis atrophy and major shrinkage.

Your posts are reason enough for parents and men to avoid circs if they want to grow maximum sized penises to enjoy in sex and preserve maximum erection health.

[gay2girl (imported)]

A half inch lost to circumcision. ....

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A tight circ before puberty might force a smaller penis growth if it can reverse size in a mature and larger penis to shrink.

Hello, I am wondering how true it is that circ makes a penis shorter. If the foreskin is just removed, it should have no effect unless there is a long tapering tip of foreskin at the very end (does that even have a name?!), if which case the "shortening" is illusory as the length of the actual organ is the same.

I am also not sure about a very tight circ affecting penile growth, as skin stretches to accommodate. Just think of skin stretch marks on obese people or pregnant women.

I know this issue is a favorite of the dedicated anti-circ sites, but not sure if there's any actual evidence it's true. I guess you need older males to report measurements pre and post circ to see if there's any change at all.

[gay2girl (imported)]

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[paring (imported)]

Hello, I am wondering how true it is that circ makes a penis shorter. If the foreskin is just removed, it should have no effect unless there is a long tapering tip of foreskin at the very end (does that even have a name?!), if which case the "shortening" is illusory as the length of the actual organ is the same.

I am also not sure about a very tight circ affecting penile growth, as skin stretches to accommodate. Just think of skin stretch marks on obese people or pregnant women.

I know this issue is a favorite of the dedicated anti-circ sites, but not sure if there's any actual evidence it's true. I guess you need older males to report measurements pre and post circ to see if there's any change at all.

Traditionally foreskin was pull up front of the glans to be cut off but modern circumcision devices, like Gomco or tara clamp, were created to remove a maximum of skin including shaft skin. The skin is pull tight and cut off behind the glans. In my case I lost more than 85% of my penile skin. With so much skin removed, the glans will rest close to the pube most of the time and therefore prevent normal development of the penis. When a boy is due by nature to have a smaller penis and gets a tight circumcision, his penis might end up 1 inch shorter than expected by nature. Which will make his life miserable because chances are that he'll be rejected by his sexual partners and therefore he'll develop an inferiority syndrome.

There are reasons nature provided men with a foreskin. First it's to allow free penile extension during erections. Second, is to protect the glans, just like eye lid protect the eye balls. Third, it give men better sensations while coupling. Foreskin is more sensitive than the gland itself. For SRS, surgeons use the penile skin to create a new vagina the more skin there is available the deeper the vagina will be. Plus that extra sensitive foreskin will improve her sensations too.