Are eunuchs still males

[catoboros (imported)]

I don't know if I'm a male anymore what am I really?

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Biological sex, gender identity, and gender expression are all separate things. While for many people these are aligned so that female=woman and male=man, this is not the case for all people.

The current jargon is to use female/male to refer to biological sex and woman/man to refer to gender, so I would re-frame your question as "are castrated males still men?" Males castrated for medical reasons may still identify as men and thus are men. Eunuchs include males castrated to align their bodies with a eunuch gender identity and those who have accepted their castrated body as a eunuch gender identity.

[chilliwilli (imported)]

It seems castration, accepting and validating a homosexual (especially submisive) identity, and cross gender behavior, dress or hormone treatment defineately alter male identity.

Masculinity, for one of the above, could have been a safe place. Asserting a strong male image....can perhaps communicate you need space to others. Losing that ability can be scary, fearful really. I imagine having a few close friends and hunkering down in some kind of jinni bottle could help.

chilli

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

I'm the right normal kind of man now. A moderated man. Testosterone levels should be low in men. Many experts agree with this. You don't need much testosterone to father children and have strength. Too much testosterone is unnatural in men and turns them into freak shows with too much sex drive and aggressive behavior. Men were never meant to be that way. Biggest myth ever. Very abnormal.

It depends on each man and what he wants. Lots of us men love testosterone and what it does for us and to us. Extreme testosterone levels are very attractive in men to some men and women in their choice of mates and sex partners. Men can choose to channel that extra testosterone into violence, sex, sports, work, being professional warriors such as military men, police, firemen, and high risk jobs.

Men were always designed by nature and evolution to meet many different roles and needs down through untold millions of years of human history. Extra high T levels were necessary in violent conditions and harsh living conditions and when getting erections and feeling like having sex and successfully impregnating women and protecting and raising babies in very stressful living conditions was very necessary to even continue the human species through the hardest times imaginable.

Our male bodies were designed and evolved over eons of time to deal with far more varied conditions than our current lives. And who knows what will be needed in the future from future men ?

[chilliwilli (imported)]

It depends on each man and what he wants. Lots of us men love testosterone and what it does for us and to us. Extreme testosterone levels are very attractive in men to some men and women in their choice of mates and sex partners. Men can choose to channel that extra testosterone into violence, sex, sports, work, being professional warriors such as military men, police, firemen, and high risk jobs.

Men were always designed by nature and evolution to meet many different roles and needs down through untold millions of years of human history. Extra high T levels were necessary in violent conditions and harsh living conditions and when getting erections and feeling like having sex and successfully impregnating women and protecting and raising babies in very stressful living conditions was very necessary to even continue the human species through the hardest times imaginable.

Our male bodies were designed and evolved over eons of time to deal with far more varied conditions than our current lives. And who knows what will be needed in the future from future men ?

Exactly! Being hyperactive I strongly identifying. So many hyper boys are medicated into oblivion, labeled a problem or "benched". Helping these beauties understand what puberty is going to be like, before the testosterone hits, is really the answer.

"Now sweety you going to have this thing once a month" LOL

chilli

[photoglenn (imported)]

I am a male but no longer feel like a man even with TRT

My feelings exactly. I am a castrated male with a penis. Even with TRT I have no libido. I have what I call libido edging. I have an inner craving to get aroused sexually, but no amount of visual or tactile experiences brings my craving to a peak.

I still remember what it was like to have balls, seeing them, feeling them, and enjoying them flopping around. I am trying to adjust to being a eunuch but this is not an easy task.

It is an emotional journey that seems to lead to just despair. I keep hoping that eventually I will forget what my life was like before being castrated due to a medical condition, not cancer.

So, while I identify as male, look male, feel male, I feel emasculated. I am definitely impotent, except for the rare occasional erection that does occur at night so I know the physical functioning still works, which only adds to my consternation. I can not voluntarily get anything to work. I am attempting to come to accept that I am a eunuch, but this is very difficult. I never wanted this. If my doctor does not change my prescription this coming week to improve my testosterone level, it is still low, I am on the verge of just throwing in the towel and stopping the testosterone gel completely. If so, perhaps that will completely eliminate the frustrations I am having with always being on the edge.

[racerboy (imported)]

This may be off-topic, but some of the replies have referred to "social status," and I have noticed in a number of the fiction items the notion that once a guy loses his balls, or especially if he loses "everything down there," he is somehow overcome with the need to be subservient to "real men," that is, "entire" males. My perrsonal opinion is that this is malarkey, or, at best, wishful thinking from a gay sub. But *is* there any truth to it? And why should it be so widespread, especially in the "nullo" fiction archives? (Not that it is really frequent, but there is a significant, say 10-20% of stories where it is a sub-theme).

[GordonGG (imported)]

Personally I don't feel any less of a man after castration than I did before. To me it wasn't any different than getting a tattoo (obviously with a whole different set of results).

[Chesleyt (imported)]

I wish I could go back to the way it was before puberty when everything was simple and I was happy.

[Arab Nights (imported)]

I grew up in a NW farming town and my wife in a South American city. Between the male/female, rural/urban, Cauc/Latina aspects, when we agree on something it probably is pretty universal. One thing we do agree on is that life was pretty easy peasy before the puberty smackdown. Guess that is how life is meant to be, so we should just deal with it and get on.

[Losethem (imported)]

This may be off-topic, but some of the replies have referred to "social status," and I have noticed in a number of the fiction items the notion that once a guy loses his balls, or especially if he loses "everything down there," he is somehow overcome with the need to be subservient to "real men," that is, "entire" males.

This nullo can only speak for himself but... It made me a lot more Dominant. Though I'm mostly a one man kind of guy these days, and my partner knows there is really only one other guy I wish to have relations wth other than him. He's supportive of it because I only see that guy once a year, a fellow nullo, and partner is ok with it because he knows thats a kind of sex he can't give me.

[Begoneboy (imported)]

This nullo can only speak for himself but... It made me a lot more Dominant. Though I'm mostly a one man kind of guy these days, and my partner knows there is really only one other guy I wish to have relations wth other than him. He's supportive of it because I only see that guy once a year, a fellow nullo, and partner is ok with it because he knows thats a kind of sex he can't give me.

until going to the MoM last year I had never met another eunuch face to face so had none other but myself to Devine whether or not a eunuch was still a man. I had a wonderful time and got to know a good bit more about eunuchs and if it was possible to just drop all eunuch down the same definitions. Now that I have shared bread with other eunuchs I can say it is not possible to take the notion that all eunuchs are anything except individual human beings. We may be bound together by the fact that each is missing testes but that is where the similarities come to a screeching halt. Eunuchs are males who are missing testes. Period. Each is vastly different from another after that. To say a male who has lost a member of his body is no longer a man is absurd. Of course I proffer to the physical. Psychological is very individual.

[Chesleyt (imported)]

Over this last year I have lost all manly abilities and am trying to get used to the changes but I have definitely realized I am still a male.

[catoboros (imported)]

Eunuchs are males who are missing testes. Period. Each is vastly different from another after that. To say a male who has lost a member of his body is no longer a man is absurd. Of course I proffer to the physical. Psychological is very individual.

I wholeheartedly agree. Gender identity is entirely subjective. There are those who have their penis or testicles removed who still identify as as men, those who identify as eunuchs, those who identify as agender, and those who identify as some other binary or nonbinary transgender identity. Biological sex is immutable, although we can change our sex characteristics. Gender identity is as varied and individual as a fingerprint.

[Chesleyt (imported)]

I'm a Male eunuch and am no longer a man I'm gender neutral now

[seanthomas (imported)]

You are not what you think you are.

You are not what others think you are.

You are what you think others think you are.

Be yourself and everything else falls into place.

Recently I have identified a Eunuch as a gender, but more for fun and shock value (it didn't shock as I expected). I have "come out" to friends as having been castrated, though not with a different gender identity. Nobody (at least to my face) has treated me differently. I'm growing more comfortable with Eunuch as a gender identity and yet it hasn't changed who I have always been. My comfort is related more to accepting that at least physically, I am different and it's okay.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

You are not what you think you are.

You are not what others think you are.

You are what you think others think you are.

Be yourself and everything else falls into place.

Recently I have identified a Eunuch as a gender, but more for fun and shock value (it didn't shock as I expected). I have "come out" to friends as having been castrated, though not with a different gender identity. Nobody (at least to my face) has treated me differently. I'm growing more comfortable with Eunuch as a gender identity and yet it hasn't changed who I have always been. My comfort is related more to accepting that at least physically, I am different and it's okay.

That s so great that you feel comfortable letting people know you are castrated. And that most people have reacted well and treat you the same as when you had balls ! Hopefully, this will become how more eunuchs feel comfortable and accepted by their peers as civilization moves forward and people become better educated about castration.

[Paolo]

You are a male if the organ between your ears (if you have one) tells you that you are.

You are not necessarily a male, if the organs (if you have them) between your legs tell you that you are.

[dicklesstanuki (imported)]

The thing is that gender ID is something you get to discover for yourself. For instance, transgender men are men. Transgender women are women. It has little or nothing to do with genitals there.

The human brain is a pattern-finding machine. We like to have things sorted into little boxes and when something doesn't do that, it is a source of alarm and confusion. That's why wandering outside of what we have been widely told is masculine or feminine is difficult.

What it means to be a Eunuch in modern society is something we are discovering more and more every day. Every journey down the path towards it is different. Finding your masculinity or lack thereof is something you get to do for yourself. You set the parameters as you go, and those values are just as valid as the ones others set.

I would say the answer to your question is whatever the eunuch you're asking says it is.

[notsomanly (imported)]

I've always seen myself as a heterosexual male and still do despite the fact that my body doesn't generate much T and I've been taking female hormones in low doses. I'm just a better version of the man I always was, freed from the horrible effects of T. I was always a kind and loving man who women have found attractive. I still am, only more so.

[mattman59 (imported)]

I wish I could go back to the way it was before puberty when everything was simple and I was happy.

That is the great thing about castration. In a way it hits the reset button and puts you back to pre-puberty.

[mattman59 (imported)]

I'm a Male eunuch and am no longer a man I'm gender neutral now

I consider myself a 3rd gender. Neither here nor there. Blurring of the sexes and differences between men and women is a good thing IMO. A very positive development.

[mattman59 (imported)]

You are not what you think you are.

You are not what others think you are.

You are what you think others think you are.

Be yourself and everything else falls into place.

Recently I have identified a Eunuch as a gender, but more for fun and shock value (it didn't shock as I expected). I have "come out" to friends as having been castrated, though not with a different gender identity. Nobody (at least to my face) has treated me differently. I'm growing more comfortable with Eunuch as a gender identity and yet it hasn't changed who I have always been. My comfort is related more to accepting that at least physically, I am different and it's okay.

Coming out as a eunuch is fine but don't just tell anybody on the street. Friends are fine and should be understanding and accept you for who and what you are. There are just too many ignorant idiots out there who might give you a hard time. Just proceed with caution.

[seanthomas (imported)]

Coming out as a eunuch is fine but don't just tell anybody on the street. Friends are fine and should be understanding and accept you for who and what you are. There are just too many ignorant idiots out there who might give you a hard time. Just proceed with caution.

How and why would I announce my "status" to strangers? The absurdity of such behavior would deserve a "hard time". But you are correct that the world is populated with too many ignorant idiots and fortunately my circle of friends are not among them. Virtually all, like me, are Libertarian and very open minded.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

The main way any eunuch would announce his status to strangers is simply choosing to get naked in locker rooms, public showers, nude beaches, saunas, drs offices, and the various other normal places that unaltered men get naked. I think being naked in front of other people, especially other males, is a normal part of life for most males.

I think its great when eunuchs feel confident and comfortable enough to get naked in front of other people, especially intact males, with no shame or embarassment.

I love hearing how people react to eunuchs and nullos in different situations. I think hearing how people really do act in members experiences is very interesting and helpful for eunuchs, nullos, and any men thinking of modifying their own body.

[seanthomas (imported)]

The main way any eunuch would announce his status to strangers is simply choosing to get naked in locker rooms, public showers, nude beaches, saunas, drs offices, and the various other normal places that unaltered men get naked. I think being naked in front of other people, especially other males, is a normal part of life for most males.

I think its great when eunuchs feel confident and comfortable enough to get naked in front of other people, especially intact males, with no shame or embarassment.

I love hearing how people react to eunuchs and nullos in different situations. I think hearing how people really do act in members experiences is very interesting and helpful for eunuchs, nullos, and any men thinking of modifying their own body.

True..... I was thinking "announcing" in terms of introducing your status to strangers in an inappropriate manner. Like wearing a tee shirt or putting a bumper sticker on you car that says "Proud Eunuch". I was in St. Martin recently and wanted to visit a popular nude beach, which would have been the first time in since castration that I would have been exposed in public. I had the courage, but not the time before having to leave. Honestly, as I had visited that beach years ago I doubt anyone would have noticed as clothing optional etiquette rather dictates one simply does not stare and another man's junk.