Sexual desire controllability after orchi
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SmartestKen (imported)
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Sexual desire controllability after orchi
For those of you after orchiectomy and are on estradiol (and ideally no other medication), 1. What is your estradiol level (or dosage)?
2. How controllable is your sexual desire? i.e. To what extent can you control your behavior when experiencing sexual desire (if at all)?
2. How controllable is your sexual desire? i.e. To what extent can you control your behavior when experiencing sexual desire (if at all)?
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Valery_V (imported)
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
After orchiectomy I sometimes accepted testosterone in small dosages, only for strengthening of bones and joints. Actually I am asexualy, but always tried to maintain image of the man. For my part in youth parties no problems existed.
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SmartestKen (imported)
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
So the only hormone you take is (occasional) testosterone? And I guess by no problem existed, you mean sexual or related thoughts never pop up into your mind?
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Valery_V (imported)
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
SmartestKen (imported) wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 12:50 am So the only hormone you take is (occasional) testosterone? And I guess by no problem existed, you mean sexual or related thoughts never pop up into your mind?
I accepted testosterone independently (but, me it was prescribed by the doctor). Concerning sex I never showed an initiative. With the best half of mankind I did not aspire to life (though offers, of course, were repeatedly). Contacts of the introduction in official marriage with representatives other half of mankind at us are absolutely excluded.
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GordonGG (imported)
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
After my castration, I have been on Estradiol, first starting at 1 mg 3x day, now at 1 mg 2x day. My sexual desire has gone down 95% of what it used to be. It is very controllable and not controlling me any more.
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
SmartestKen (imported) wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:17 pm For those of you after orchiectomy and are on estradiol (and ideally no other medication), 1. What is your estradiol level (or dosage)?
2. How controllable is your sexual desire? i.e. To what extent can you control your behavior when experiencing sexual desire (if at all)?
Hey @SmartestKen,
Your question is one that is pervasive in this community and yet not often asked in the way you did. There are so many reasons that a per AMB would want to become MtE.
The desire to eliminate or control sexual desires is a very legitimate reason. Often, a person AMB simply doesn't want to be bothered with sexual desires. Some religions see becoming a eunuch as a way to devote one's life to pure religious thought. Others might want to eliminate sexual desires that could get them in trouble with the law.
Irrespective of the reason a person AMB wants to control their sexual desires, it is an important part of wanting castration. It is often the case the chemical castration is easier to obtain than is physical castration.
Further, it is frequently recommended that chemical castration be given a trial before physical castration. Chemical castration has been given a reputation that is not deserved - one that implies the only reason for it is punishment. In fact, it can be a good start to finding out if physical castration will provide the control you are looking for.
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seanthomas (imported)
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
From my experience going from no hormone therapy to estradiol caused a slight increase in my libido. However, although diminished I never completely lost my sex drive after my orchiectomy. Having a gorgeous and sexual wife had a major influence on me and as you will read on this forum and elsewhere castration (without TRT) has a varying effect on men's sex drive from completely eliminating it to not overly affecting it.
I use a transdermal patch that delivers about 0.5mg per day. You require much less when castrated than intact MTF trans folks need and get a lot more through the transdermal route than orally. I recently added micronized progesterone and that too has increased my drive on top of making things more sensitive, especially my nipples.
I use a transdermal patch that delivers about 0.5mg per day. You require much less when castrated than intact MTF trans folks need and get a lot more through the transdermal route than orally. I recently added micronized progesterone and that too has increased my drive on top of making things more sensitive, especially my nipples.
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
After my orchiectomy my sexual desire went into high gear. I could not get enough.
My sexual desire slowly tapered of until about six after my orchiectomy . I did not notice that I had no sexual desire and my erections had stopped. About three months after my orchiectomy my urologist said that my testosterone levels were unmeasurable. He told me that since I had been taking testosterone my adrenal glands also stopped making testosterone .
He said without any testosterone that I would have no sexual desire. I found that I did not even touch my penis but to urinate.
My sexual desire slowly tapered of until about six after my orchiectomy . I did not notice that I had no sexual desire and my erections had stopped. About three months after my orchiectomy my urologist said that my testosterone levels were unmeasurable. He told me that since I had been taking testosterone my adrenal glands also stopped making testosterone .
He said without any testosterone that I would have no sexual desire. I found that I did not even touch my penis but to urinate.
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Majicdan (imported) wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 6:17 am After my orchiectomy my sexual desire went into high gear. I could not get enough.
My sexual desire slowly tapered of until about six after my orchiectomy . I did not notice that I had no sexual desire and my erections had stopped. About three months after my orchiectomy my urologist said that my testosterone levels were unmeasurable. He told me that since I had been taking testosterone my adrenal glands also stopped making testosterone .
He said without any testosterone that I would have no sexual desire. I found that I did not even touch my penis but to urinate.
Keep in mind that without a sex hormone in your body, you are at much higher risk for osteoporosis, which can be very serious.
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
My urologist put me on low dose estrogen 0.5 day, to prevent my bones and increase my strength.
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
Scientists think that most of the sex drive is generated by testosterone. In both males and females. Also, there seem to be different reaction in female and male brains to testosterone. There is evidence, that female brains are differently wired regarding sexdrive and testosterone does not have similar effect on sexdrive like in males. Estrogen does not create sexdrive directly. It might do it inderectly.
Of my own experience witg chemical castration, I experienced enjoyable lack of sexdrive and thoughts about sex when my testosterone levels dropped to 17ng/dl. And I started to feel some sex drive returning at levels around 50ng/dl. Which annoyed me quite a lot. In women testosterone levels around 50ng/dl are considered normal.
Of my own experience witg chemical castration, I experienced enjoyable lack of sexdrive and thoughts about sex when my testosterone levels dropped to 17ng/dl. And I started to feel some sex drive returning at levels around 50ng/dl. Which annoyed me quite a lot. In women testosterone levels around 50ng/dl are considered normal.
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
erikboy (imported) wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 4:47 pm Scientists think that most of the sex drive is generated by testosterone. In both males and females. Also, there seem to be different reaction in female and male brains to testosterone. There is evidence, that female brains are differently wired regarding sexdrive and testosterone does not have similar effect on sexdrive like in males. Estrogen does not create sexdrive directly. It might do it inderectly.
Of my own experience witg chemical castration, I experienced enjoyable lack of sexdrive and thoughts about sex when my testosterone levels dropped to 17ng/dl. And I started to feel some sex drive returning at levels around 50ng/dl. Which annoyed me quite a lot. In women testosterone levels around 50ng/dl are considered normal.
After mine nullification my sexdrive was practically absent. When I began to accept testosterone according to doctor's instructions, my libido improved. Estrogen to me did not write out and I never accepted it.
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
3 years after my Orchi and after 2 years on high dose Estrogen my sex drive and ability for penetrational sex is down to zero. My wife and I we were trying just for curiosity in the first couple of month from time to time but conventional penetrational sexual intercourse is no longer an option and we both don't regret the decision to retire from this kind of sexual activity.
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
@Brigit1977 ... dude, do you still orgasm and cum at all? Or just dry orgasms?
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
I considered chemical castration to control sexual thoughts, urges, and activity, but went to physical castration instead.
I initially used testosterone replacement gel for hot flash and night sweat control, one pump every 4 days, with effectiveness, but then switched to estrogen 1 mg once per day, and continue that now.
It has totally eliminated my sexual thoughts, urges, and activity! Goal achieved for castration!
p.s. I also have welcomed and like the femme body changes, which were not any consideration in pursuing castration. The urge and switch to estrogen use was unexpected after two years of castration.
Hey @Smartes
tKen,
TMFL
I initially used testosterone replacement gel for hot flash and night sweat control, one pump every 4 days, with effectiveness, but then switched to estrogen 1 mg once per day, and continue that now.
It has totally eliminated my sexual thoughts, urges, and activity! Goal achieved for castration!
p.s. I also have welcomed and like the femme body changes, which were not any consideration in pursuing castration. The urge and switch to estrogen use was unexpected after two years of castration.
Hey @Smartes
tKen,
TopManFL (imported) wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 1:58 am Your question is one that is pervasive in this community and yet not often asked in the way you did. There are so many reasons that a per AMB would want to become MtE.
The desire to eliminate or control sexual desires is a very legitimate reason. Often, a person AMB simply doesn't want to be bothered with sexual desires. Some religions see becoming a eunuch as a way to devote one's life to pure religious thought. Others might want to eliminate sexual desires that could get them in trouble with the law.
Irrespective of the reason a person AMB wants to control their sexual desires, it is an important part of wanting castration. It is often the case the chemical castration is easier to obtain than is physical castration.
Further, it is frequently recommended that chemical castration be given a trial before physical castration. Chemical castration has been given a reputation that is not deserved - one that implies the only reason for it is punishment. In fact, it can be a good start to finding out if physical castration will provide the control you are looking for.
TMFL
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kastranja (imported)
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Re: Sexual desire controllability after orchi
Up front I have to admit that a thorough understanding of the terms "sex drive", "libido" and some others has eluded me so far. I never felt a noteworthy drive or necessity to have sex (with the meaning of making use of my penis in a way that leads to ejaculation). I consider myself asexual, although it can be discussed inhowfar BDSM (and physical reactions to respective fantasies, which I definitely had) can be seen as sexual.
Having said that, I would say that my fantasies including sexuality (in a broader sense) and their frequency have changed with hormonal changes. They got much less frequent, and they got less and they got less disruptive (i.e. coming up completely inconveniently). I realized that when I did self-medication about 20 years ago (first only estrogen 1-2mg/d, then what at that point was considered a m2f hormone regimen) and even more after my orchi in 2016. I have taken 1-2 mg oral estradiol since then, which has been replaced by a prescription of 1 mg transdermal since last year. At the moment, I have nothing what I would call sex drive (but there was not much to begin with), although I still get a physical reaction (i.e. erection) to certain types of fantasies.
And: I am not sure that hormones play the only role (at lesast in my case), or if the achieved self-congruence with my gender identity, which partly manifested in taking hormones and getting the orchi, and other things that changed in my life and in society, have had a much bigger impact on me (and my sex drive).
In short: the individual variations in the answer to your question will likely be very broad...
Having said that, I would say that my fantasies including sexuality (in a broader sense) and their frequency have changed with hormonal changes. They got much less frequent, and they got less and they got less disruptive (i.e. coming up completely inconveniently). I realized that when I did self-medication about 20 years ago (first only estrogen 1-2mg/d, then what at that point was considered a m2f hormone regimen) and even more after my orchi in 2016. I have taken 1-2 mg oral estradiol since then, which has been replaced by a prescription of 1 mg transdermal since last year. At the moment, I have nothing what I would call sex drive (but there was not much to begin with), although I still get a physical reaction (i.e. erection) to certain types of fantasies.
And: I am not sure that hormones play the only role (at lesast in my case), or if the achieved self-congruence with my gender identity, which partly manifested in taking hormones and getting the orchi, and other things that changed in my life and in society, have had a much bigger impact on me (and my sex drive).
In short: the individual variations in the answer to your question will likely be very broad...