Hello from Germany

[Neutrum260725]

Hello from Germany,

I'm a 66 y/o male from Germany with the wish of orchiectomy and possibly penectomy. In Europe and especially in Germany this is not easy to realize, so I'm searching for real possibilities. I found different contributions form men castrated and all were very happy with this. Best way seems first use things like Androcur or similar to see if all goes well. So I'm interested in long time experienses of any kind.

Sorry for my English because it is not my native language.

best regards Neutrum66

[WheelyCurious]

Welcome to the forum.

I hope we help you find the information you are looking for, and that you get to reach your goals.

As an American I am not at all expert on how things work in the EU, but I've heard that it is relatively easy to get this type of thing done in the Netherlands. Is that close enough to where you are in Germany to be a possibility?

I'd also try searching to see if there is a Transgender Center or clinic anywhere near where you live, and if there is, reaching out to them as well. WPATH, the association that deals with gender related things fairly recently released a new "Standards of Care" that addresses the needs of folks like us, and hopefully will make life easier for us.

I'm working my way through this and it has been slow but relatively easy, and I'm now counting down to a surgery date in late September.,

WheelyCurious

[Neutrum260725]

Thank you very much.

I'm reading and reading and reading a lot of interesting stuff. The idea with a "Transgender Center" is realy a good idea, perhaps I find one.

I wish you good luck for your surgery date.

Neutrum66

[WheelyCurious]

Thank you very much.

I'm reading and reading and reading a lot of interesting stuff. The idea with a "Transgender Center" is realy a good idea, perhaps I find one.

I wish you good luck for your surgery date.

Neutrum66

Thanks for the good wishes...

I know some folks find the idea of a Transgender Center a bit different from what they were expecting or thinking in terms of, but it sort of makes sense. While not the same as a full switch between male and female, technically those of us seeking castration and / or penectomy are seeking to change our gender from "Horny Guy" to something in the middle. The surgery is essentially the same as what is done in a full Male -> Female switch, it just stops sooner, so the surgeon would need the same basic knowledge and skills.

At any rate this is the class that our medical people want to put us in, so we need to be used to the idea.

WheelyCurious

[Castor]

Hello from Germany,

I'm a 66 y/o male from Germany with the wish of orchiectomy and possibly penectomy. In Europe and especially in Germany this is not easy to realize, so I'm searching for real possibilities. I found different contributions form men castrated and all were very happy with this. Best way seems first use things like Androcur or similar to see if all goes well. So I'm interested in long time experienses of any kind.

Sorry for my English because it is not my native language.

best regards Neutrum66

It is not so difficult to be castrated legally in Germany in a clinic. In principle, there are two possibilities away from SOC8: the castration law and gender dysphoria. I can gladly explain both via PM.

[Neutrum260725]

First step is done!

today I visited my family doctor and told her that my sexual urge is terrorizing me, because I left nearly 50% of my sexual feelings after a stroke in 2008. It feels like a ruined orgasm and is not worth the action. She reacted really cool and told me that I am the first one with the wish of castration and she needs to inform herself about this theme. So I'm waiting for her recall.

[hans-europe (imported)]

...interested to discuss about all....hans

[Neutrum260725]

The second step has been done!

Yesterday, after a long wait, I finally had an appointment with the urologist. In addition to the preventive examination, there was also a blood test for PSA and testosterone levels. Finally I told him that I would like to try chemical castration. He prescribed "Finasteride" for me and I have my next appointment for a check-up in six months. Since today I have been taking "Finasteride" and will see what awaits me.

Der Zweite Schritt ist getan!

Gestern hatte ich nach langer Wartezeit endlich den Termin beim Urologen. Neben der Vorsorgeuntersuchung gab es noch die Blutabnahme für den PSA- und den Testosteron-Wert. Schlieslich sprach ich Ihn darauf an, dass ich gerne eine chemische Kastration ausprobieren würde. Er verschrieb mir "Finasterid" und in einem halben Jahr habe ich dann den nächsten Termin zur Kontrolle. Seit heute nehme ich nun "Finasterid" und schaue was da auf mich zukommt.

[patric12 (imported)]

ich bin gespannt auf Deinen wöchtentlichen Bericht ��

[WheelyFixed]

Congratulations on the progress! I hope the results are what you are looking for. Keep us posted on how you are doing.

WheelyFixed

[Neutrum260725]

First weekly update

My slightly enlarged prostate responded after just 2 days with improved urine flow and I usually sleep through the night. My blood pressure is also slightly elevated, but nothing earth-shattering. It seems to me that I shiver a little quicker. I didn't notice any nighttime erections, which is definitely desirable. So far everything is in the "green zone". Otherwise it's a case of "wait and see and drink tea".

Erstes Wochen-Update

Meine leicht vergrößerte Prostata reagierte schon nach 2 Tagen mit verbessertem Urinfluß und nachts schlafe ich zumeist durch. Auch mein Blutdruck ist leicht erhöht, aber nichts weltbewegendes. Mir scheint, dass ich etwas schneller fröstele. Nächtliche Erektionen habe ich keine bemerkt, was durchaus erwünscht ist. Bisher also alles im "grünen Bereich". Ansonsten heißt es "abwarten und Tee trinken".

[WheelyFixed]

First weekly update

My slightly enlarged prostate responded after just 2 days with improved urine flow and I usually sleep through the night. My blood pressure is also slightly elevated, but nothing earth-shattering. It seems to me that I shiver a little quicker. I didn't notice any nighttime erections, which is definitely desirable. So far everything is in the "green zone". Otherwise it's a case of "wait and see and drink tea".

Erstes Wochen-Update

Meine leicht vergrößerte Prostata reagierte schon nach 2 Tagen mit verbessertem Urinfluß und nachts schlafe ich zumeist durch. Auch mein Blutdruck ist leicht erhöht, aber nichts weltbewegendes. Mir scheint, dass ich etwas schneller fröstele. Nächtliche Erektionen habe ich keine bemerkt, was durchaus erwünscht ist. Bisher also alles im "grünen Bereich". Ansonsten heißt es "abwarten und Tee trinken".

Sounds good, not surprised the prostate is improving as my recollection is that finasteride is one of the drugs that is often prescribed for prostate problems (often w/ loss of other function seen as a regrettable side effect, but in this case a good thing...)

WheelyFixed

[Neutrum260725]

Second weekly update

My blood pressure has reduced slightly again, no erections so far and the drive is slowly decreasing. I feel relieved and my interactions with women in general are becoming more and more relaxed. I'm on the right path and I can continue like this.

Zweites Wochen-Update

Mein Blutdruck hat sich wieder etwas reduziert, bisher keine Erektionen und der Trieb wird langsam weniger. Ich fühle mich erleichtert und mein Umgang mit Frauen allgemein wird immer entspannter. Ich bin auf dem richtigen Weg und so kann es weitergehen.

[Neutrum260725]

Four week update

No erections so far, not even trying. The urge is slowly becoming less and less and that feels really good and liberating.

Vier-Wochen-Update

Bisher keinerlei Erektionen, nicht mal der Versuch. Der Trieb wird langsam immer weniger und das fühlt sich richtig gut und befreiend an.

[WheelyFixed]

Sounds like great progress - Congratulations!

WheelyFixed

[Castor]

Finasteride 5 mg is definitely a good method of becoming impotent. It is a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor, which has the advantage of preventing the loss of scalp hair. However, care should be taken to avoid swelling in the breasts (see side effects).

[Neutrum260725]

Unlike me, Castor read the castration law correctly and drew the right conclusions from it. After reading the law again, I came to the same conclusion and will probably go down that path. However, I don't know whether that also applies to "nullification".

Im Gegensatz zu mir hat Castor das Kastrationsgesetz richtig gelesen und auch die richtigen Schlüsse daraus gezogen. Nachdem ich das Gesetz noch einmal genau durchgelesen hatte, kam ich zu dem gleichen Schluss und werde wohl diesen Weg gehen. Allerdings weiß ich nicht ob das auch für "Nullification" gilt.

[Castor]

I can only warn against Finasteride. It does have the effect of making you impotent, which may be desirable if you have a high sex drive and is a kind of test run for your surgical castration. It is also known to protect against harmless prostate cancer. However, unlike surgical castration, the drug may have the effect of causing aggressive prostate cancer: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7220188/

[Neutrum260725]

Thanks for the link, very interesting. I use finasteride primarily because of an enlarged prostate and only secondarily, as an additional effect, to suppress libido. Since yesterday I have also been taking Androcur 12.5 mg once a day. The dose is deliberately low to make it easier for the body to cope with the change. As soon as the Androcur has sufficient effect, the finasteride should be discontinued. The whole thing is a "tolerance test" before an orchiectomy is considered.

Danke für den Link, sehr interessant. Bei mir wird Finasterid in erster Linie wegen einer Prostata-Vergrößerung eingesetzt und erst in zweiter Linie, sozusagen als zusätzliche Wirkung, zur Libido Dämpfung. Seit gestern nehme ich auch Androcur 12,5 mg einmal am Tag ein. Die Dosis ist bewußt niedrig gewählt um es dem Körper leichter zu machen mit der Veränderung klar zu kommen. Sobald das Androcur genügend Wirkung zeigt soll das Finasterid abgesetzt werden. Das Ganze dient einem "Test auf Verträglichkeit" bevor eine Orchiektomie in Frage kommt.