I hate being gay...

[Kristopher]

When I questioned my sexuality, I was told that I would be discriminated against, be a victim of public scrutiny, and be stigmatized, especially with these "fascist Nazi bigoted republicans" in office... but I have experienced quite the contrary, I found that the only aspect that makes me hesitant to be gay is the gays themselves, not all of those commonly listed reasons I noted before, but instead because of how reprehensibly deviant, and overly-sexual they are. I went to a gay book reading of The Gentleman's Guide to Vice and Virtue. I was 17, and an 11-year-old was there as well. They said that the protagonist of the story would "fuck a hole in the wall"; they used vulgarities numerous times, spoke of sodomy, and mentioned where gays went to have sexual relations during the 18th century (the century the book was set in). The father in the book hated that his son was gay, so what did the book club attendees say about this? "I hope all of his children become queers," then proceeded to laugh, among many other spiteful comments. They were the most spiteful, repulsive, undesirable group of people my young self had ever been around or seen in person. I was shocked. Why would I want to subscribe to such a shameful, reprehensible, over-sexual, deviant community?... I hate being gay, again, not because of all the fake reasons, but because of the gays

[WheelyFixed]

Welcome to the forum, though I'm not sure this is quite the right place given your post.... I am not gay, but many here, including most of the other forum staff are. So are many of our members. How you feel about yourself is your business, but general messages of hatred of others are not welcome here.

I don't doubt your story, and consider it regrettable (though I've seen parallel things in heterosexual circles of guys talking about mistreating women) but would suggest that it is not typical of the entire gay world.

We operate on a 'judgement free' policy, where we may not choose personally to follow any other path, and possibly find it very unappealing, but we don't make judgements about others and their choices, so long as all involved are consenting and over 18. (legal age of consent in most countries)

Your post is very much on the edge of being a 'troll' posting and I will ask that you tone it down quite a bit...

That said I am sorry for the experience you had, and would venture to suggest that you might want to look at what sort of circles you are moving in and perhaps seek out a different set of folks to associate with.

It also reads to me like you may be having difficulties coming to terms with your sexuality, and wonder if there would be any value in trying to find a therapist that can help you explore it in a safer and more supportive way. I am told that it is not unusual for a person (especially one from a conservative / highly religious background) to have problems with the realization that they don't fit the orientation they were brought up to think was 'right and proper'. Therapy or other supportive help may be of value to me.

Getting back to the general subject area of this forum, I note that your profile says your interest is "academic". Can you tell us more about what brought you here, and what you would like to learn?

WheelyFixed

[mar]

You're generalising what a gay person is like. Most gay people aren't even visibly gay on a daily basis, they just kind of are...

I think a lot of younger gay people fall in to this belief that 'I'm gay, but I'm not gay - with the makeup, drag and flags, blah blah blah' when really you're just being as bigoted as straight homophobes.

If you want to fuck or be fucked by men, go ahead. No one is asking you to change your personality to be part of the community

[Kristopher]

You're generalising what a gay person is like. Most gay people aren't even visibly gay on a daily basis, they just kind of are...

I think a lot of younger gay people fall in to this belief that 'I'm gay, but I'm not gay - with the makeup, drag and flags, blah blah blah' when really you're just being as bigoted as straight homophobes.

If you want to fuck or be fucked by men, go ahead. No one is asking you to change your personality to be part of the community

Mar, you just used the vulgarity I was referencing. Also, I am not generalizing; I am noticing a very real evidence-based pattern of behavior, the gold standard for contemporary sexual data, and many others must be bigoted and generalizing as well, because they have also found that the broader LGBTQIA+ community has higher average partner counts and consensual non-monogamy. Mar, you may say that no one is asking for the gays to change their personality, but they do, and the change it takes is extremely unpleasant

[Kristopher]

Welcome to the forum, though I'm not sure this is quite the right place given your post.... I am not gay, but many here, including most of the other forum staff are. So are many of our members. How you feel about yourself is your business, but general messages of hatred of others are not welcome here.

I don't doubt your story, and consider it regrettable (though I've seen parallel things in heterosexual circles of guys talking about mistreating women) but would suggest that it is not typical of the entire gay world.

We operate on a 'judgement free' policy, where we may not choose personally to follow any other path, and possibly find it very unappealing, but we don't make judgements about others and their choices, so long as all involved are consenting and over 18. (legal age of consent in most countries)

Your post is very much on the edge of being a 'troll' posting and I will ask that you tone it down quite a bit...

That said I am sorry for the experience you had, and would venture to suggest that you might want to look at what sort of circles you are moving in and perhaps seek out a different set of folks to associate with.

It also reads to me like you may be having difficulties coming to terms with your sexuality, and wonder if there would be any value in trying to find a therapist that can help you explore it in a safer and more supportive way. I am told that it is not unusual for a person (especially one from a conservative / highly religious background) to have problems with the realization that they don't fit the orientation they were brought up to think was 'right and proper'. Therapy or other supportive help may be of value to me.

Getting back to the general subject area of this forum, I note that your profile says your interest is "academic". Can you tell us more about what brought you here, and what you would like to learn?

WheelyFixed

WheelyFixed, you said you said that this forum operates on a "judgment free" policy, and then you psychoanalyzed me to find in your expert moderator opinion, that I may need to see a therapist... I am not trolling, and you are not the arbiter of whether my anecdote was trolling; it was what I experienced. You can not say it is wrong. I also refuse to tone down, and I will continue to gather research for my "academic" interest, as you noted in the response to my post, that academic interest will not be explained.

[T van Keel]

Kristopher, you just qualified as the probably first troll on this forum. Congratulations!

This place is about males who seek information about castration and nullification, but you don't seem to have the slightest interest in this. At least, you refuse to tell about your motivation.

So, please leave this place.

[WheelyFixed]

I agree - this person has just managed to get themselves banned...

WheelyFixed