Has anyone ever felt Michael Jackson was a Eunuch?

[jouleblu (imported)]

I have for years felt that it very odd that Michael Jacksons voice did not change like his brothers. Also, I got the impression from watching is parents and how they used him when he was young that there was no limit to their greed.

If he were a eunoch, the kids thing would make more sense. He would perhaps be profoundly uncomfortable with anyone with a sex drive, like most normal adults have, male or female.

Kids dont usually have any sex drive or at least are very innocent.

I suppose that being a eunoch would be his ultimate defense in this new child abuse case they are televising/trying.

To me this even makes it more interesting to try to find out the answer to this since I assume it would be one of his most deep and darkest secrets.

Does anyone else share my opinion?

As for his marraige and kids, money buys lots of things.. i assume he can afford to make cover stories.

So, what do you all think?

Betty

[bethany (imported)]

I have for years felt that it very odd that Michael Jacksons voice did not change like his brothers. Also, I got the impression from watching is parents and how they used him when he was young that there was no limit to their greed.

If he were a eunoch, the kids thing would make more sense. He would perhaps be profoundly uncomfortable with anyone with a sex drive, like most normal adults have, male or female.

Kids dont usually have any sex drive or at least are very innocent.

I suppose that being a eunoch would be his ultimate defense in this new child abuse case they are televising/trying.

To me this even makes it more interesting to try to find out the answer to this since I assume it would be one of his most deep and darkest secrets.

Does anyone else share my opinion?

As for his marraige and kids, money buys lots of things.. i assume he can afford to make cover stories.

So, what do you all think?

Betty

Very intelligent theory, very insightful....

[Riverwind (imported)]

Some how I doubt it, this is a black man trying to be a white woman, with all the surgerys one thing is for sure, he dosent like himself. Then again who are we to judge, we are into the most ratical mods of all.

[Paolo]

It's a valid theory and one to banter about - as long as it stays on the topic of Michael Jackson, and does not turn into a child abuse thread.

Did he do it? I don't know.

Personally, I don't care.

It's not a topic for discussion here.

What IS a topic, even though it might fall into the urban legend catagory, is just WHY his damn voice is so high?!

I've always wondered that myself. Then along came Prince Michael and the other 2 or however many he has. Very interesting indeed. Clones? Mutants? Cosmetic vocal chord surgery? Who knows?

[talula]

Grappling hook to the vocal cords towed away by a group of Dear Abby readers driving an old VW microbus, listening to opera, and pissed off at the local newsman who was recently scolded for attending a club reunion of aquarium fanatics that lost fingers in a tragic subway accident involving 3, lost seekers of the word antidisestablishmentarianism who mistakenly took the wrong train and were walking back to their station to change to the proper colored line when George, a very good train operator, didn't see them in his path and mowed them down as he was passing a particularly favorite landmark in the tunnel and turned to see them.

tal.

[Andrew (imported)]

No. I fail to see how his lack of testosterone (if this were indeed the case) would make any difference one way or another. If it is about sex, eunuchs can have sex. Some with the help of testosterone replacement, some with the help of their adrenal glands. Perhaps with an assist from Viagra.

[SplitDik (imported)]

I think Michael Jackson is a transsexual who has never come to grips with it, or who is afraid to come out publicly. I think if he did complete his transition and made it public he might be much happier.

[Quillman (imported)]

It has to be a lovely thought- and most certainly an Urban Myth- but as the bloke has fathered children, sorry, that has scuppered the thought- shame really!

Quillman UK

[sag111 (imported)]

Iam not sure of this person but it looks to me that money and fame has not been his best friend.What i see is a bankrupt sole here that all the money in the world cant fix.

[greeneg (imported)]

Iam not sure of this person but it looks to me that money and fame has not been his best friend.What i see is a bankrupt sole here that all the money in the world cant fix.

Excuse me for also BEING a gay black man who did a lot of

singing as a child and is now in his mid-40s, but anything anybody

has to say about Michael Jackson THIS month NEEDS to be in

the Cellar, in a place where controversial topics are EXPECTED.

It is a matter of clear public record that MJ is not any kind of

eunuch since one of the things the authorities did to him as

part of their ongoing vendetta was take photos of his genitals,

allegedly in order to check whether they matched the description given

by some boy they were trying to talk into taking him down. And even

though his voice is a lot higher than most men's, it is still obviously

a changed voice. It is also not as high today as it was back when

he was topping the charts. The one thing that would indicate SOME

level of testicular failure is that he is very obviously not the biological

father of his children, even though one of them was born to a woman

to whom he was married at the time.

[bullgeo (imported)]

I think Michael wants to look like a woman, some say Diana Ross. With all the plastic surgeries he has had to look like a woman, why not his balls and penis too. Makes sense to me.

Bull

[sag111 (imported)]

Wow greeneg i didnt mean to offend here and if he or you are gay thats not a problem with me .All i said is i dont think all that money and fame has been good for him.And as for being gay you need to know my best friends are gay.

[Paolo]

Back in the 1970's, when I was a kid and the Jackson 5 was popular, there was not a thing wrong. Then when Michael went into a solo career, the urban legend that his parents had either had him put on estrogens or testosterone blockers - or even had him 'clipped' - started circulating. There was even a rumor of vocal chord surgery to preserve his voice.

Then, after the smashing success of THRILLER, things started to get strange. Over the course of the 80's - early 90's, they got even stranger.

The issue isn't that Michael Jackson is gay - or not.

The issue isn't that he's black or not.

The issue isn't whether he wants to look like his sister Janet or Diana Ross or Judy Garland, even.

The issue isn't that he's accused of child molesting.

The whole post is about discussing masculinity, and obvious lack of male secondary sex characteristics, leading to an on-topic discussion.

That, and you gotta admit, the fella is just a tad bit wierd these days...to which, I might add, he's entitled to be.

[jouleblu (imported)]

I am so pleased with the number of considered replys to my initial observation, question.

I suppose now that i read the considerations. My refined question would be whether it is possible for someone to save much of their high pitched vocal voice and demasculate them short of castration, if for the moment we allow for the probability he appears physically complete down there.

I think the observation by greeneg that he has been photographed probably is true and thus I guess he most likely appears physically complete.

The reason i am asking at this point, is because he is so rich, he probably can afford some very creative ways of hiding what happened to him, if anything did.

Or maybe he has invented some new things that are cutting edge.

[madscientist1 (imported)]

Well,now. Allegedly he fathered children. If he were castrated he could not do this regardless of his T level. But now I wonder if he isn't completely female, which would make his interest in children simply "mothering".

[tramp007 (imported)]

Back in the 1970's, when I was a kid and the Jackson 5 was popular, there was not a thing wrong. Then when Michael went into a solo career, the urban legend that his parents had either had him put on estrogens or testosterone blockers - or even had him 'clipped' - started circulating. There was even a rumor of vocal chord surgery to preserve his voice.

Then, after the smashing success of THRILLER, things started to get strange. Over the course of the 80's - early 90's, they got even stranger.

The issue isn't that Michael Jackson is gay - or not.

The issue isn't that he's black or not.

The issue isn't whether he wants to look like his sister Janet or Diana Ross or Judy Garland, even.

The issue isn't that he's accused of child molesting.

The whole post is about discussing masculinity, and obvious lack of male secondary sex characteristics, leading to an on-topic discussion.

That, and you gotta admit, the fella is just a tad bit wierd these days...to which, I might add, he's entitled to be.

Well excuse me!

Who are you to say what the issue is.

This thread, as posted, is to do will Micheal Jackson's sexual status.

Quite valid @ the EUNUCH ARCHIVE. What he is accused of is not included in the post as read, therefore not valid.

[tramp007 (imported)]

I am so pleased with the number of considered replys to my initial observation, question.

I suppose now that i read the considerations. My refined question would be whether it is possible for someone to save much of their high pitched vocal voice and demasculate them short of castration, if for the moment we allow for the probability he appears physically complete down there.

I think the observation by greeneg that he has been photographed probably is true and thus I guess he most likely appears physically complete.

The reason i am asking at this point, is because he is so rich, he probably can afford some very creative ways of hiding what happened to him, if anything did.

Or maybe he has invented some new things that are cutting edge.

I reckon your on the right track. It will be intersting to see what comes of all of this. My money on a DNA test that says he's not the father of the Princes Micheal or any other kid. The Princes are blond and blue eyed and fair skinned for a start and don't seem to share a famial resembulance to the rest of the Jacksons.

[Paolo]

Well excuse me!

Who are you to say what the issue is.

In case you didn't notice, I run the place.

THAT'S who I am.

If you don't like it, then leave.

As I said before - this isn't turning into a race, sexual preference, or child molestation thread. It's a thread about male secondary sex characterists and/or eunuchism of said subject.

Come to think of it, it's not open for discussion anymore.

Thread closed.

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