Eunuch Maker site

[Friotler7]

I'm just curious what was there in the site. Have anyone see it when it was on?

I don't remember ever coming across with the site eunuchmaker.com, which is strange since I've been interested in the subject for maybe 14 years.

[NaturalEunuch]

It was a paid community that promoted and streamed dangerous, non-medical body modification surgeries. Not just castrations, but all kinds of nasty extreme stuff I don't want to mention. The owner was arrested and got a long prison sentence.

[WheelyFixed]

Very good summary N.E. Definitely a very nasty bunch, that caused a lot of sensational tabloid headlines at the time, and probably hurt the acceptance of our chapter in the SOCv8 in the UK among other bad impacts on the Eunuch Community... They not only did procedures that were non-medical, but allegedly weren't even 'good technique' and were focused much more on causing pain, and making splashy videos than on actually helping guys that wanted to be fixed...

So not only cutters, but the really bottom of the barrel, scummy grade.

In the past on EAv2 there were cases of cutters that didn't have an MD, but did work that would have been considered acceptable if they did, and there was a lot of protest and messages of support when they got caught and sent to jail. The reaction to the eunuch maker gang getting caught was more on the order of celebration and happiness at how severely they were punished....

[fusion]

I had spoken to the owner of that site way before it was launched.

They where always a bit pushy trying to get more people to have the surgery preformed.
It caused a lot of trouble and even got a Brisbane guy arrested as he got coxed by said owner and others on the site to perform the horrible things they did to others down here.

He got a suspended sentence for what he did to two men one from Vic the other from NSW.

It was not a good place or a good time for our community.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-16/ ... /100298996

[alwayslurking]

An assortment of the Eunuchmaker produced videos are still floating around on sites like Motherless or ThisVid. They aren't hard to find.

[WheelyFixed]

Reading the linked story, which probably left out a lot of details, it did sound like the Australian guy was at least trying to be 'professional' about it, as opposed to the UK Eunuch Maker people that seemed to be more interested in recruiting people to make videos rather than helping those that wanted to become eunuchs and couldn't get legitimate doctors to do the surgery....

Remember that the surgeries were in 2018-2020, well before SOCv8 was more than a rumor, if even that (not sure just when the process to write it started) so 'legitimate' options for surgery were pretty much non-existent..... (when I started on this journey in 2022 the SOCv8 was still in DRAFT status, not officially released)

So cutters were really the only option that a lot of people had. The Australian guy may have been encouraged to get into the business by the EM people, but sounded like he was trying to do it right, not do torture scenes... Not forgiving him, but I feel that he was not as bad for doing this at that time, as he would be doing it these days when legitimate options are more available....

If he did the same thing today I'd be in the give him a long sentence camp...

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[fusion]

Yea I got that feeling about the Brissy guy and I do feel for him. His goal was to help but got cought up with TEM site and then it went down hill from there.

I am glad the site has gone as it has caused a lot of damage for the nodding community at large in the UK and Australia.

[TheRagingEunuch]

Sorry. Not that I think I represent all Eunuchs, but in my opinion, I really don't think this guy helped our image any.

[WheelyFixed]

Sorry. Not that I think I represent all Eunuchs, but in my opinion, I really don't think this guy helped our image any.

You'll get no disagreement from me about not helping our image... But most of us weren't born that way , so needed someone to handle the removal issue... Given that at the time there were virtually no MD's that would do surgery absent a definite medical reason to make it needed (i.e. cancer, trauma, etc.) a lot of people needed the services of 'cutters' that operated outside of the medical system...

There were people like the Eunuch Maker site that used the situation to exploit us for profit and to get their own jollies by doing torture scenes and so on, and they REALLY hurt our image, along with their patients. The Brisbane guy sounded like he was at least trying to do the right thing by his patients, and got caught up in the tabloid flap over the EM site... There was a bit of a blurb in the news article that in addition to the two he was being prosecuted over, that he may have had at least 10 other patients, and they weren't making an issue of it. So no I don't think he helped our image, but he was not as harmful as the EM guys... In some ways the fact that the paper emphasized that his patients were consenting and thankful for his services could even be seen as somewhat positive in bringing out that there are people like us that WANTED to be eunuchs, and that they were frustrated by the lack of legitimate routes for surgery...

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[Godson]

Weighing-in on this late, as I only just recently came across some links to this content on another site, and actually not only did it change my opinion, but changed my entire outlook on the “process” of becoming a eunuch.

At the risk of being banned, and at the cost of having to eat my previous words of sanctimonious disdain, some of what I have seen has opened my perspective to new possibilities.

First off, I agree that much of what I saw was really horrific. Some very confused and hurt people hurting themselves in really awful and dangerous ways. People being subjected to things that maybe they didn’t fully understand, or feel totally invested in. And some who obviously got ambushed or coerced with regrettable consequences. For these things all my previous comments still stand and I do think it is harmful for the “community” - but then it’s the people creating victims by their actions, or giving passive endorsement by their voyeurism that are the ones who are “not good for the community” in the first place. And some of the people who are represented as “cutters” I wouldn’t let cut a piece of pie, let alone do amateur surgery.

But there were videos that I did see that were not only eye-opening, but useful in their instruction. Useful to the point of being able to imagine the viability of a self-made solution.

While EM’s work was a bit on the sloppy side, his process and how he presented it was thorough and clear. See “EM-VN Penectomy” and “EM-VN Castration” as good examples of that.

But I have to say it was a video of a young man named Trent (see “Trent Penectomy,”) who really helped me process this and get grounded in it. He executes his self penectomy with all the calmness and indifference as if he was making a peanut butter sandwich - and with about the same amount of blood. Just very cool and focused, working quickly and cleanly. The video of his castration is similar, except he uses scissors- which is never a good idea for skin.

So, in actually taking a step back, I have to acknowledge that benefits CAN be realized from “viewing” *some* of the fringe and forbidden, depending on where you meet it, and with what intention. It certainly took me to a new place in my journey. And thusly, there is also use to be able to access an expanded knowledge base - to help people avoid other potential harms once they understand the process.

I’m a trained first responder, so I get the medical stuff like tourniquets, and catheters, and dressings, etc; the trauma stuff like blood loss and shock; the dressing and aftercare - wound management, etc.

But the questions around how THOSE specific aspects are specifically dealt with is a HUGE knowledge gap for those seeking answers. How long do the elastrator tourniquets stay on? Cauterize or not cauterize; how to manage a great big open wound where the scrotum used to be when the wound can easily open with movement or defecation? Infection? Minimize post-op movement or not (some of these people are just going about their business after the chop)? So much missing knowledge.

And the ONLY people who can answer those questions knowledgeably - the few who have done “credible” work; enough times; and seen/managed enough scenarios first hand to know what to expect and how to improvise what to do - are silenced or deep underground. And so the “useful” knowledge goes to the grave and the rest of the “community” loses out.

Be careful to parse out carefully what I am actually expressing here…

There IS value to the knowledge.

Eunuchs have been made - and made themselves eunuchs - for millennia - before surgeons, and before the act was considered barbarism or a sign of mental illness. Very little of THAT knowledge has stood the test of time.

Leeching used to be the status quo. Then it became barbaric. And now it’s making a mainstream comeback endorsed by the medical community.

It’s unfortunate we can’t have a balanced, informed, and detailed conversation about the “instruction manual” without all the other scary, nasty, crazy, borderline stuff getting in the way.

There was a time when C-sections were also hideously barbaric and done by amateur midwives with few tools. It was their knowledge and continued “hands-on” experience and iteration that eventually got us to where the procedure is today…

SOMEBODY has to go first.

SOMEBODY. Always. Has. To. Go. First.

It is the undeniable, unavoidable, unenviable universal human truth. Whether you’re talking about Airborne Rangers, or twins leaving the womb, somebody has to be first.

My $0.02.