Desperate to be a Eunuch

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tugon (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:52 am He was an unknown when he first came in to apply but presented himself well. After he was hired his behaviors and performance began to decline. As I worked with him he began to disclose his previous actions regarding his behaviors at terminations. Many can act like they have it together for a few weeks but eventually the damaged personality reveals itself.

That is unusual. I was at my present job for a year before I revealed the actual reasons I decided to leave (at my own initiative) my prior position. I don't like to trash-talk employers former or current, but I felt I had been where I was long enough to state that things were getting bad where I was (for the specific company, not that I was being bad) and when it seemed that nobody was interested in doing anything to work on turning things around I felt it best to seek another position elsewhere. As part of the conversation I said I didn't just seek any position when I landed where I'm at now, and that I looked for a specific employer that seemed to know how to take actions and make course corrections when necessary. I did couch the bad parts from my previous position with the good parts (IE it seemed there was no motivation to make the appropriate corrections, but the people I worked with were also good and doing the best with what they had).

The guy you're talking about sounds a lot like a more like a more awful/aggressive version of my older brother. Comes in thinking he's the new sheriff in town and that everyone sucks. I've been trying to nudge my brother out of that attitude for years. Doubt he'll ever change. *shrugs* It's a horrible thing when you encounter those people in the workplace. They suck motivation out of it, and generally make everyone miserable.
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A guest checked in at the Hotel and she said she was in town for a funeral. I asked her who she was in town to pay her respects for and she named someone who had been a friend to my aunt and uncle. She of course knew them and we had a nice talk. As she was checking out she said "I am so sorry to hear about your aunt". I had to ask what she meant and she informed me she passed away on 12/05/16.

Of my remaining aunt, cousins, and uncle I heard this news from no one but a poor guest who felt very bad that she let me know.
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It is sad, but true, that sometimes strangers are more kind than family is. --FLO--
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Uncle Flo (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:58 am It is sad, but true, that sometimes strangers are more kind than family is. --FLO--

You are correct. I have tried to fit in and bend to their expectations and in 60 years I have nothing to show for it. Finding out about my aunt was such a wake up call for me.
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I must admit knowing that you will never be a true part of the family is rather freeing. I am becoming more aware with who I am instead of what I have endured. I have been changed in many ways but I need to focus on the today me and what I now have to offer. The negativity of the family kept me focused on what I was not able to be for them. Finally I have given myself permission to live for me.
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I think I realize now that family is like a pack of Rattle Snakes. I thought my family was different because they were Christians, but no it is not.
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I think it is time for a cat scan of my abdomen. Since my New Years Day belly flop onto this good earth I have been slowly healing. The ribs are almost pain free and the effects of the concussion have subsided. The impact to my abdomen have continued to frustrate me.

My recent struggle is with being incontinent of stool. Mostly while out walking the dog a good distance from home. Luckily this phenomena only happens for the nightly walk when everyone is in bed. This reduces the embarrassment but not the discomfort of the event. Nor does it reduce the number of times I must do laundry. Everything else is healing but my digestive track seems to be in more distress. Due to my love of wine I did check out the symptoms of pancreatitis. I have no pain after eating, no vomiting, no rise in temperature or blood pressure just loose bowels.

Monday I went to my annual eye exam and the doctor saw some dried blood in one eye. No signs of retinopathy and I shared with her the fall that may have caused the bleed. She agreed that it could have been caused b the fall. Oh and one eye has the beginnings of a cataract. I am also starting on vitamins for my macular.
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A friend and neighbor who provides support to people with developmental disabilities was recently very sympathetic to one of her clients. This gentleman had a torsional twist to his remaining testicle so it had to be removed in the emergency department. He lost his first one in much the same way. She is a little over the top in how upset she is for him and he is only worried about losing his job for taking time off.

The gentleman has never shown interest in dating or having a relationship. He certainly never wanted to have children as he states "they are too expensive." I explained that with the change in hormones that may change for him. He may require more affection than previously. I tried to share much of what I could remember so she would be prepared. She is sure he will be given HRT but her population she serves are not the best at following instructions or remembering to take medications.

I asked if he might benefit from an online site that dealt with being a eunuch and the effects he would be facing. She thought that would be beyond his abilities. She said to me that most of her male friends would grab themselves and grimace if they were told about that loss. Yet I was so calm and trying to prepare her. I did tell her it must be time working in the hospital and all I saw.

I am surprised that she has never asked how I know so much. That may cross her mind after she accepts what happened to her client. She was so shocked they did it right there in the ER and I said "hell it can be done in a cheap motel room."
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Yesterday I arrived for an appointment with my new doctor 20 minutes before 1 PM. At 1:03 PM I was taken back to an examining room. The nurse came promptly in and checked my blood pressure, pulse and temperature. Before 1:10 PM the doctor knocked on the door and came in to begin the appointment. Since this was my first appointment she spent over an hour with me. After the time she spent with me the nurse came in and drew some blood the doctor had ordered. At 2:40 PM I had plenty of time to get to work on time.

Wow a doctor who wanted to know me to provide good care. Instead of criticism I received encouragement. She had a way about her that caused me to open up and share some of the rough times of life. She wants to help me physically but also wants me to see someone who can help me emotionally. I have never been treated with such kindness and respect. Wow again because I have heard of good doctors but never had one before.

While I have been typing the office called to tell me my lab work was all normal but my liver enzymes were elevated a couple of points. My A1c was a little high and she is thinking of a change in meds on my next appointment. I will see her again in a month as she studies my past labs and we decide on goals. I feel like I have someone on my team guiding me instead of someone only knowing my numbers and much disapproval.
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One thing I am considering is my doctor's request that I talk with the intake nurse at a psychiatrist's office. I had mentioned some residual sadness and depression due to events in my life. I can be a chameleon and become what the doctor wants me to be. I have always needed someone who could cut through my manipulation and make me be real. I also wonder if I would be going for true help or attention. Sometimes I feel very honest and genuine and at others I am attention seeking. I am doubting the benefits and wondering if I would just be wasting someone's time.
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tugon, you will outlive me because so many people here love you :)
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You are 80% to true progress by recognizing and admitting you need attention and you are manipulative. The balance of true progress rests in your choice and decision to set aside the need for attention and/or manipulation, and choose the need and desire for true personal growth regardless of the outcome.
tugon (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:26 am One thing I am considering is my doctor's request that I talk with the intake nurse at a psychiatrist's office. I had mentioned some residual sadness and depression due to events in my life. I can be a chameleon and become what the doctor wants me to be. I have always needed someone who could cut through my manipulation and make me be real. I also wonder if I would be going for true help or attention. Sometimes I feel very honest and genuine and at others I am attention seeking. I am doubting the benefits and wondering if I would just be wasting someone's time.
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My older sister who I have struggled with all my years has passed away. Her dream was to move to Florida and live along the beach on the Gulf side. She wanted to spend her final years on the beach. Well she went to Florida to a nice beach house for vacation. During her stay she had a massive heart attack and died. Being a diabetic she had had several silent heart attacks. That massive heart attack fulfilled her dream of her final days on the beach.

Two sibling in two years is a bit unsettling. I have a younger sister that I should warn to be careful next year. Due to personal habits three out of four grandparent died in their 50's. My sister was 62 and my brother was 54. Luckily I am too mean to die.

Another funeral to attend and more time with remaining family. My brother's widow is taking over the job of bullying me. Her phone calls are unpleasant and blaming. Oh well soon I will be back to being a recluse.
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tugon (imported) wrote: Tue May 09, 2017 12:50 pm My older sister who I have struggled with all my years has passed away. Her dream was to move to Florida and live along the beach on the Gulf side. She wanted to spend her final years on the beach. Well she went to Florida to a nice beach house for vacation. During her stay she had a massive heart attack and died. Being a diabetic she had had several silent heart attacks. That massive heart attack fulfilled her dream of her final days on the beach.

Two sibling in two years is a bit unsettling. I have a younger sister that I should warn to be careful next year. Due to personal habits three out of four grandparent died in their 50's. My sister was 62 and my brother was 54. Luckily I am too mean to die.

Another funeral to attend and more time with remaining family. My brother's widow is taking over the job of bullying me. Her phone calls are unpleasant and blaming. Oh well soon I will be back to being a recluse.

Your brother's widow needs to mind her own f-ing business. Your brother is gone, why do you bother with her?
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I have to agree with LT.

If someone isn't a benefit to your life, boot their ass out of it. I will not tolerate someone who makes me miserable. There's no reason that you should, either.

As for your siblings dying, well, you know - it's always the mean and ugly, nasty one that lives forever... LOL! JUST TEASING! :) 😄

That's what I tell my cousins, though. I'll probably be the last one to go!

Seriously, though - it's the strong ones who survive.
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It sounds like you are long overdue for some hugs from friends. Any chance you can make it to the MoM this year? I know we'd all like to see you (and give you some of those needed hugs). You are clearly one of the good people. Your family is here on the Archive.
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I've only been to two MOMS, both here in California. and they were wonderful. I highly recommend it.
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At 61 years of age I still hope to meet someone with whom I can spend the rest of my life. I know it is doubtful but I have lived on hope for many years. I once had someone tell me that they thought my chances were minimal and that hurt and changed the dynamics of our friendship. Never take hope from someone who hopes they can be loved.

When I was 41 and recently castrated and escaping from an abusive relationship I was amazed how my mind and thoughts had frozen in time. The abuse started when I was 23 and when it ended I wanted to return to being 23 years old. Of course that ship had sailed but I found myself interested in 23 year old men and the fashions of that generation but I was 41 years of age. It took me awhile for my chronological age to catch up to mental age. I was very resentful of the lost years. My life was on hold for 17+ years and without professional therapy I struggled alone with these issues for too many years.

Now that I am at peace and accepting of my age, I am happier. Many, many of my friends died during the early AIDS crisis and I have survived makes me happy but with a little survivor's guilt.

Here is to the following years where I will peacefully walk my dog. Live a life as a recluse with my art, music and library.
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Tugon: Your story sounds so familiar to so many people. Peacefully walking your dog and enjoying the art etc is great.

But you can find so much more. Find some thing to volunteer and give of yourself in order to help others. Not being familiar

with your area I can only suggest that there are literally scores of non-profits always looking for volunteers to help in

their efforts. I personally am involved with non-profits who go to third world countries and provide free medical care to

those in need. It is not only very rewarding but has created a family of contacts and interactions that have enriched my

existence to no end. It's just a matter of applying oneself. In life we need not wallow in dispirit when there are so many doors

to be opened if not just to see what's on the other side.

Every journey can be fraught with danger and discomfort but also with excitement and pleasure. Go ahead! Peek through a few of those doors!
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TheIncuse has the same struggles.. He wants someone for his life too. For both of you the only source is the Eunuch Archives. Better look around here and be prepared to relocate to make for a better life for both of you. Happiness can be found if you look long and hard enough.
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I often struggle with the idea of romantic love versus a nurturing love I never received as a child. Having a mother that never bonded with me and a father that sexualized me at an early age I have been unsure of what I truly need.

http://teacher.scholastic.com/professio ... onding.htm

The most important property of humankind is the capacity to form and maintain relationships. These relationships are absolutely necessary for any of us to survive, learn, work, love, and procreate. Human relationships take many forms but the most intense, most pleasurable and most painful are those relationships with family, friends and loved ones. Within this inner circle of intimate relationships, we are bonded to each other with "emotional glue" — bonded with love.

Each individual's ability to form and maintain relationships using this "emotional glue" is different. Some people seem "naturally" capable of loving. They form numerous intimate and caring relationships and, in doing so, get pleasure. Others are not so lucky. They feel no "pull" to form intimate relationships, find little pleasure in being with or close to others. They have few, if any, friends, and more distant, less emotional glue with family. In extreme cases an individual may have no intact emotional bond to any other person. They are self-absorbed, aloof, or may even present with classic neuropsychiatric signs of being schizoid or autistic.

The capacity and desire to form emotional relationships is related to the organization and functioning of specific parts of the human brain. Just as the brain allows us to see, smell, taste, think, talk, and move, it is the organ that allows us to love — or not. The systems in the human brain that allow us to form and maintain emotional relationships develop during infancy and the first years of life. Experiences during this early vulnerable period of life are critical to shaping the capacity to form intimate and emotionally healthy relationships. Empathy, caring, sharing, inhibition of aggression, capacity to love, and a host of other characteristics of a healthy, happy, and productive person are related to the core attachment capabilities which are formed in infancy and early childhood.

I recently attended a family reunion of
tugon (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:10 pm my father's side of the family.
They were very nice and I felt welcomed. They were constantly mentioning how much I looked like my paternal grandfather. Even though they were quite nice I did not connect with anyone. I would certainly feel comfortable meeting with them again but I cannot say I would miss anyone if I was not able to return.

I do have to say they were nicer than my mother's family. They were rather shamed based people and I was gay. I was an early disappointment due to my dislike of sports and my interest in my chemistry set and building things. I would rather launch a rocket than throw a ball. I would receive sports based toys as gifts. One time I responded to a radio contest and won. I had no interest in the prize but when my mother found out I won a football we went to get it. It stayed in the packaging for weeks.

Have I developed enough for intimate love? Probably not but maybe in my next life. Sometime my heart breaks that I have no one special in an intimate, loving relationship but I have some very good friendships that fill the void. I wonder what it would be like if I could find a good therapist at an affordable rate to help me with those issues.
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I certainly share your experiences of not having received much in the way of nurturing love from family. My father spent a lot of time away from home drinking and cheating, and my mother experienced the stress of both that situation and the divorce that followed not much later. My grandparents did a better job of parenting, although they still had a hard time with saying "I love you" and were more disciplinarians than nurturers.

I suspect that not receiving this love that we definitely needed has had consequences for both of us. :) I know that in my case, I do have difficulty with forming relationships with others. I feel nothing toward anyone in my family except for maybe my grandmother and brother. I have one close friend, and for me that is plenty. :) I tend to think that quality is much more important than quantity when it comes to friendships. I also have a number of people in my life who I would consider friends (but not close) and acquaintances.

But actually forming new relationships with others can certainly be challenging for folks in our position. :) I know that people can tell there is something different about me, and for many people that is enough to write me off before taking any time to get to know me. But even among people I know well, I still find that I am often not 100 percent comfortable around them, and therefore they still do not see much of my true personality. My closest friend has seen more than anyone else has because he is a rare person I've become completely comfortable around.

I did have one therapist diagnose me as "schizoid," but that was one opinion from someone who only knew me for a short time. She had no knowledge that I am virtually certain I have an autistic spectrum disorder (I didn't know it then either). I'm sure that in my case that disorder complicates matters. :)

The older I get, the more I am learning that people who are different ought to embrace those differences and even celebrate them. I've spent a lot of time with you, and I certainly don't think there is anything wrong with you. :) You are who you are, just as I am who I am. We've both been through a lot in our pasts, and it is difficult for someone who hasn't had issues like ours to understand.

As for love, I definitely would not give up on it. I didn't think I was capable of loving someone romantically until it happened. It took me a long time to accept that was what was going on because of the circumstances. But once I realized that's what was going on, everything started to make sense.

If sexual intimacy isn't your cup of tea, you might be interested to know that I had no sexual interest in this person, even when on T. It's strange because I do have sexual interest in others. But I didn't have any in this person and also not in a few others who I had grown to care about in the past and may have fallen in love with if they had remained in my life longer. It seems that in my case, when I start to really care about someone, I either don't form any sexual interest in them or lose any that I already had.

So I definitely think that it is possible to love someone without having any sexual interest in them, and there are plenty of people out there who have had the experience of loving someone without being sexually interested. You might find there is someone out there who would come to love you but not have much interest in sexuality.

You deserve to have someone special in your life. :) Even though I've lost my special person and will most likely never see her again, I feel like it was all worth it. My life is enriched for having known her and loved her. Love is worth it! Don't give up!
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plix (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:53 am If sexual intimacy isn't your cup of tea, you might be interested to know that I had no sexual interest in this person, even when on T. It's strange because I do have sexual interest in others. But I didn't have any in this person and also not in a few others who I had grown to care about in the past and may have fallen in love with if they had remained in my life longer. It seems that in my case, when I start to really care about someone, I either don't form any sexual interest in them or lose any that I already had.

I always had problems integrating love and sex. At certain times I think it might be due to my being abused sexually by someone I may have loved or was supposed to love or who should have loved and protected me. Of course I was not mature enough for sex nor had the chance to consent. Whatever it was sex and love never seemed to go together. I could have great sex with a stranger or someone I was not interested in except their physical attributes. Toss love in the mix and I would fail miserably.

I appreciate your input since we have some things in common. I am glad you felt the good part of romantic love. I just reread the previous sentence and realized that even today I am better at emotions than at the physical with another person I value and respect. I have always envied a couple who can be in love and make love.
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This August we had the family days of the dead. Oh what an odd family. Of course I was not consulted. August 11th and 12th were the days of betrayal and insult.

I received a voice mail message the on the 10th they were dropping mom in the dirt on the 11th. My mother wanted her ashes spread over the Plains Of Abraham. I tried to encourage family to travel and do this together but everyone was too busy. I was never given mom's ashes so I was not able to do it on my own. After my sister passed away I can only imagine that her live in Dave and my sister-in-law made the decision. I felt no need to attend since I attended mother's funeral almost ten years ago and this was against her wishes. Again no one called and asked if I would like my mother's ashes.

The next day my sister's memorial was scheduled. Dave and my sister-in-law Kelly were busy telling mutual friends that I would not be welcome. Since it was being held at my sister's home which Dave had nicely mooched I would not feel comfortable attending. Dave had nicely mooched off of his first wife until she became tired of it. Dave is a questionable person who may get himself into some trouble left to his own devices. I have been a little curious about what might have been said if anyone asks why I was not in attendance. As in many times in the past I am sure they used this time to paint me in a negative light.

As an eight year old who was given the task of being the man of the family and contributing what I could it was hurtful to become the odd man out. I would discuss financial issues with my mother. As I have mentioned before any birthday or Christmas money was given for the family while the others kept theirs. At 16 when I received my paycheck I would take the family out for dinner. Sadly no one remembers that but somehow learned to vilify me.
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Maybe consult the wisdom of Mr Corky. He seems an upbeat kind of fella.

Families, including my own, are capable of the most astonishing heights of compassion and generosity of spirit.

I don't know what it is, but when it comes to the Dear Departed, the depths to which the same family will sink is utterly dreadful. I was as surprised as shocked, but if there is an silver lining, it is that with the passage of time, there is much healing if given a chance.

There is still much good to be found in the world....
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