Will fantasy eventually lead to reality?

[Hash (imported)]

I'm wondering how many of us eventually acted out our fantasy or fantasies? I know I did. I abused and cut my scrotum open for years dreaming about castration. I'd go to sleep thinking about getting castrated. It took over ten years, but I finally acted out my fantasy and am now a eunuch. Does this mean that all of us are destined to act out our fantasies? Even to a certain degree?

[Riverwind (imported)]

Good question, I thought you were writing about me.

River

[strassenbahn (imported)]

I'm wondering how many of us eventually acted out our fantasy or fantasies? I know I did. I abused and cut my scrotum open for years dreaming about castration. I'd go to sleep thinking about get castrated. It took over ten years, but I finally acted out my fantasy and am now a eunuch. Does this mean that all of us are destined to act out our fantasies? Even to a certain degree?

Writing as one whose fantasies of castration are very intense, but who knows that the real thing is not for him, I would suggest that everyone should carefully bear in mind the difference between the worlds of fantasy and reality; and make decisions relating to the real world in terms of analysis of the latter alone -- is being castrated right for me? In some cases the answer is an unequivocal yes, in others it will be no -- rather than projecting the fantasy experience onto reality. For instance fantasizing (as I do constantly) about being castrated by a woman is a different thing from actually living the rest of one's life as a eunuch (which some will love, others regret). To give another example. Ever since childhood I have had intense fantasies of female domination. But I have never had a really enjoyable visit to a dominatrix because the knowledge that she was just a hired service provider rather than the tyrant wife I dream of actually stood in the way of the fantasy. Likewise I fantasize about technology that would actually turn me into a genetic girl (see my avatar) but I know that in my case, and I stress in my case I would be disappointed with the results of transgendering because I would be so different from my fantasy ideal. want to stress that I am not arguing against actual castration, just recommending careful self analysis before taking an irrevocable step.

[Hash (imported)]

Strassenbahn,

I understand what you mean, but I'm afraid you didn't get the full point of what I was saying. What I'm saying is that those who fantasize long enough about something, in your case female domination, will act out their fantasy. You acted it out, but it was not satisfying because you were paying the person, so even though you acted it out, the reality did not satisfy your fantasy. However, for those who fantasize about getting castrated over a period of years, they will act out their fantasy one day just like you. Of course when they act out their fantasy, their testicles will be gone and you cannot reattach them. It's as if a powerful force pushes you over the edge, you can no longer resist acting out what once was pure fantasy. The fantasy becomes reality, you cannot control your desire. That's the way it happened to me and to others on this board.

I'm wondering if the constant repetition of the fantasy, playing it out in the mind over and over and over again, does something to the psyche of the person that removes the last inhibitions and safeguards. It would stand to reason, wouldn't it? Maybe the fantasy wears out from repeated playing and it becomes a broken record that no longer satisfies the person, and you must do more & more dangerous things to gain the same level of satisfaction, moving closer and closer to the edge of actually going through with the castration, instead of just fantasizing about it. Comments please.

[markdf (imported)]

What about those of us whose fantasies involve castrating other people? I doubt many people here have done so (or have even had the opportunity), but any stories from those who have?

Performing a clitoridectomy or a penectomy is pretty high on my list of things that I'd like to do during the course of my life.

I suppose I might part with my own equipment at some point, if I were satisfied that I had used them to their full potential... there's something really fun about surgery, about having a slightly different body afterwards. There's nothing quite like it, even if it's as minor as a piercing or having your frenulum linguae snipped (which I totally recommend, btw).

[strassenbahn (imported)]

Strassenbahn,

I understand what you mean, but I'm afraid you didn't get the full point of what I was saying. What I'm saying is that those who fantasize long enough about something, in your case female domination, will act out their fantasy. You acted it out, but it was not satisfying because you were paying the person, so even though you acted it out, the reality did not satisfy your fantasy. However, for those who fantasize about getting castrated over a period of years, they will act out their fantasy one day just like you. Of course when they act out their fantasy, their testicles will be gone and you cannot reattach them. It's as if a powerful force pushes you over the edge, you can no longer resist acting out what once was pure fantasy. The fantasy becomes reality, you cannot control your desire. That's the way it happened to me and to others on this board.

I'm wondering if the constant repetition of the fantasy, playing it out in the mind over and over and over again, does something to the psyche of the person that removes the last inhibitions and safeguards. It would stand to reason, wouldn't it? Maybe the fantasy wears out from repeated playing and it becomes a broken record that no longer satisfies the person, and you must do more & more dangerous things to gain the same level of satisfaction, moving closer and closer to the edge of actually going through with the castration, instead of just fantasizing about it. Comments please.

There is a lot of difference in acting out a female domination fantasy that costs you a couple of hundred bucks for a disappointing experience and spending the rest of your life as a eunuch (which may be right for you or may not. My advice was simply that before doing anything irrevocable one should try as hard as possible to focus on the reality (in this case, life as a eunuch) as opposed to being carried away by fantasy focussed on the castration event.

[crankshaft (imported)]

interesting topic,

most things if we put our mind to it, we can make it happen,

so in a way, yes,

as for me,and others here, when you hurt long enough you, and say enough,

you put your mind to it, of making something happen,

while somethings take time, but for me at least I got one side out, (and I cannot say how much of a relief its been) now I sit back and see how I handle one side, yes the otherside hurts but nothing like the left side that got just taken out, after reading others experiences, sometimes its best to go step by step , with no surprises ,than to jump and hope for the best,

[Hash (imported)]

Markdf,

There is another factor that will stop certain people from truly acting out their fantasies, it's called "jail time." That's what stops most people from hurting or injuring others, some also have consciences. It's easier to follow through with a fantasy involving just yourself because if you hurt or injure another, you know that the consequences will be great. This brings up another question, "If you follow through with your fantasy to castrate or penectomize another person, have you crossed the boundry of sanity? Have you become pyschotic? Is that what happens to mass murderers? Would or could someone become a mass castrator?

[penispain69 (imported)]

Strassenbahn,

I understand what you mean, but I'm afraid you didn't get the full point of what I was saying. What I'm saying is that those who fantasize long enough about something, in your case female domination, will act out their fantasy. You acted it out, but it was not satisfying because you were paying the person, so even though you acted it out, the reality did not satisfy your fantasy. However, for those who fantasize about getting castrated over a period of years, they will act out their fantasy one day just like you. Of course when they act out their fantasy, their testicles will be gone and you cannot reattach them. It's as if a powerful force pushes you over the edge, you can no longer resist acting out what once was pure fantasy. The fantasy becomes reality, you cannot control your desire. That's the way it happened to me and to others on this board.

I'm wondering if the constant repetition of the fantasy, playing it out in the mind over and over and over again, does something to the psyche of the person that removes the last inhibitions and safeguards. It would stand to reason, wouldn't it? Maybe the fantasy wears out from repeated playing and it becomes a broken record that no longer satisfies the person, and you must do more & more dangerous things to gain the same level of satisfaction, moving closer and closer to the edge of actually going through with the castration, instead of just fantasizing about it. Comments please.

My enjoyment is penectomies. I don't think I would go all the way just because I enjoy the torture of my penis more than finally removing it completely but..... I know what you mean and who knows, I may go too far some day. I like banding my penis. Some day I may end up leaving it on too long and it will need to be removed.

They say some psyco people are like that. The guy who invented Save-A-Lot in Indiana was like that with strangling and drowning people. He would take his lovers home while his wife and kids were gone. He would drown them but just until they were unconsous. Eventually he went too far and then he would kill all of them.....until he got caught.

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

What exactly is Save-A-Lot? Indiana is starting to sound downright inhospitable. --FLO--

[I Worship Women (imported)]

Like it is with anything else, I think it depends on the person. Each person is an individual and each of us handles our castration fantasies differently. How far into reality each of us takes our castration fantasies depends on the individual. For some, just enjoying imagining it happening is enough, perhaps masturbating while they imagine it. Some go a little further, perhaps acting out a mock castration with a partner.

For most it will always remain only that, a fantasy. But I can understand how for a few, probably a very few, how the fantasy goes on and on until the fantasy of castration leads them to actually get castrated.

It depends on the individual, and each of us is different. For most it will always and only ever be fantasy about castration. But there are a few people whose castration fantasy does lead to reality. It all depends on the individual.

[stewie69 (imported)]

In my case, I certainly hope not. I enjoy penectomy fantasies from time to time, but I don't want to lose my cock. It's the fear that I might lose control for a split second and chop it off that arouses me. I'd love to have a woman threaten to cut it off, too, but deep down, I hope she wouldn't!

[Kangan (imported)]

There is a very real danger that a fantasy will become reality if the fantasy is intense enough and maintained for a long period of time.

For example, this phenomenon is why all the laws about child pornogrphy have been enacted. i.e. If you fantasize about child sex (the logic follows), then you might become a molester. On the other hand, I don't like the idea of the "thought police" monitoring our behavior either....

So if you fantasize about castration long enough, you just might get frustrated and do it. I tried it once, but quit because of the pain involved.

[ballsontheline (imported)]

I have had the fantasy of getting castrated or getting my cock cut off since I was 13. I didn't act on the fantasy with another guy until I was 30. I went to an Asian master. I brought my elastrator and knife. I told him that the threat of castration really turned me on.

He put the band on me and told me that he was going to make my fantasy a reality. He left the band on and jerked my cock telling me to cum for the last time. I thought he was going to do it for real. He did let me go before my balls died and I got the band off.

I have seen him several times since then. Recently he told me that I needed to come to him and let him take my balls. I went to see him. He had a woman there and I did't like it. He wrestled me to the floor and tied me up. Once I was helpless, he introduced me to his friend Marci. Marci is a vet and she performs castrations on dogs and cats regularly.

She had all her instruments and I was sure she was going to take my balls. They kept me from seeing my dick. She pulled out what looked like balls and I was sure I was nutted. After I had cum, they let me up. Only then did I see that my fantasy had not become reality that time. Some day I know it will because I keep taking risks.

[willing2share5 (imported)]

I'm wondering how many of us eventually acted out our fantasy or fantasies? I know I did. I abused and cut my scrotum open for years dreaming about castration. I'd go to sleep thinking about get castrated. It took over ten years, but I finally acted out my fantasy and am now a eunuch. Does this mean that all of us are destined to act out our fantasies? Even to a certain degree?

Like Hash, I have cut open my own scrotum and seeing my left testicle moving around is what really piqued my interest in castration (CBT was my primary interest prior to that moment). The most painful part was sewing myself up afterwards since having an open wound was not something I wanted to have around too long. I opened my scrotum only once and then switched to piercing.

As far as leading to reality, that remains to be seen. As erotic as castration is for me, I'm not sure I could deal with a total lack of sexual interest. Sexual frustration may actually be better and a penectomy would do very well in that regard. But way the fantasies are always great!

[genderless (imported)]

I have had the fantasy of getting castrated or getting my cock cut off since I was 13. I didn't act on the fantasy with another guy until I was 30. I went to an Asian master. I brought my elastrator and knife. I told him that the threat of castration really turned me on.

He put the band on me and told me that he was going to make my fantasy a reality. He left the band on and jerked my cock telling me to cum for the last time. I thought he was going to do it for real. He did let me go before my balls died and I got the band off.

I have seen him several times since then. Recently he told me that I needed to come to him and let him take my balls. I went to see him. He had a woman there and I did't like it. He wrestled me to the floor and tied me up. Once I was helpless, he introduced me to his friend Marci. Marci is a vet and she performs castrations on dogs and cats regularly.

She had all her instruments and I was sure she was going to take my balls. They kept me from seeing my dick. She pulled out what looked like balls and I was sure I was nutted. After I had cum, they let me up. Only then did I see that my fantasy had not become reality that time. Some day I know it will because I keep taking risks.

I think I would like it that they told me they would torture me some and not do it. But instead they DID cut my balls off. I think one would try to fight it if they knew it was for real.

[BossTamsin (imported)]

[bThe only real regret will be in NOT doing it.[/b]

I personally disagree with this one sentence. AS we've seen on this board time and time again, you can also regret it if you go through with it.

This is something to take slowly and carefully. Yes, it is bad to regret not doing it. It can be much worse to regret doing it.

[Kathleen (imported)]

Unfortunately, I do not believe that there is any sure way to tell whether you would regret doing it or not doing it until it was done, and then not even immediately. It might also vary as HRT looses its effacacy and the sex drive disappears. I think that some new eunuchs might feel cocky about their ability to have sex after the operation, but time tells.

I also feel that if you must involve other people in your desire to get castrated to have them carry you through with it, that something inside yourself is unsure.

Taking into consideration the example of a sales seminar, the really good salesman knows he can sell and enjoys doing it because he has the confidence in himself and his abilities. Salesmen weak in their sales abilities and who need the constant buoying up of sales seminars are really in the wrong field, in my humble opinion.

[genderless (imported)]

I think after seriously thinking about for 2 years, my fantasy is going to be quickly a reality. I know for some people this sounds like a short time, but at the same time it is becoming tortureous not to go through with it.

[invivo (imported)]

I think that if you want to get off on fantasy, keep on dreaming about it. But, if you get off on the idea so much that you know deep down inside your gut, that you want to actually do it, you need to start telling people. One of the principles of goal-setting they teach at motivational seminars is, to first visualize it, then start acting on it as if it were already reality. If you tell people about deciding to make your goal a reality - you have to do it.

I don't think it makes any difference if it's your balls or your penis. Or all of them. If you know in your gut you really want it, tell others of your decision, and you're then forced to go through with it.

The only real regret will be in NOT doing it.

Thanks, these word came to me at the right time.

And I agree, if you wanna do something, and you know this is right for you, deep down inside you, then do it. If you dont you will regret it, and you will regret not even trying.

I have been going around with fantasies for 30 years, now I am trying to live them.

There is a difference between fantasies, theré are those which you enjoy but never really consider realizing, then there are those that hurt with longing.

The latter ones consider living, exploring.

[genderless (imported)]

In regards to what dev and sapient were saying about a woman wanting a REAL man with all his parts. I don't believe that to be totally true, just generally true.

There is a whole new world out there these days and the old social norms have changed some. There was a day once when you never seen a woman sporting a tattoo or piercing. They are all over the place now.

[plix (imported)]

I think first we should clarify what we mean by "fantasy."

There is "fantasy" in an exclusively sexual context, meaning that you are sexually aroused by the idea of being castrated or being a eunuch or that you are otherwise sexually interested in the idea of becoming a eunuch or the effects it produces.

There is "fantasy" in a general sense, meaning that castration is something that is not reality but something that you dream about becoming reality (without sexual arousal) or you actually want to become reality.

Even if the fantasies are sexually related, I have never believed that fantasy is an absolute contraindication to actually becoming castrated. For some they have the fantasy for a reason - turning it into reality would actually make them happy.

For most with these fantasies, they are only that. Most at the EA are never going to follow through with castration (or whatever procedure interests them), and that is fine. Most would also be able to see that true castration is not what they desire if they really take the time to think about it.

But there are those for whom the fantasy becomes stronger, even when it is sexually motivated. Some of these will develop a true desire to be castrated, a few of these will actually go through with it.

The only thing that potential eunuchs who have sexual fantasies about becoming a eunuch need to know is that once castrated, the libido and the enjoyment of the fantasy that comes with it will be no more. If they can fully understand that there will no longer be any sexual enjoyment of the idea of being a eunuch once it actually happens and are willing to accept that consequence as well as the others, then I have no problem with it.

In my own case I was never aroused to the actual act of castration. I tried masturbating to it with no success. When I was in Kimmel's office my penis was 100% flaccid. There was no erection, no orgasm, and no sexual excitement over what I was doing.

No arousal to the procedure, but I will not deny that prior to my surgery there may have been some sexual elements to the idea of being without a libido. When I lost the libido I saw how different the reality was from the fantasy. I no longer had any sexual motivation to enjoy my new state. Nonetheless, I was still quite happy and content with it. The few times I have tried to bring a libido back since my surgery, I always end up unhappy and going back to being without again. So in some cases those who have sexual elements to their castration fantasy may actually enjoy it even without the libido. But one in this position should be extremely cautious because so many more have ended up deeply regretting it.

I would have to say that regretting not doing something can often be a much worse regret than regretting doing something. Those who really want castration and never do it may find themselves much more miserable than those who did not want it and do. But everyone is different, and everyone must answer for themselves and to themselves what it is they really want.

[genderless (imported)]

I don't have that much of a sex drive anyway. When I do, I could easily do without having any libido at all. People spend an awful amount of time thinking about sex and sometimes how to get it.

One more urge just like smoking, I can do without it.

[Kangan (imported)]

My fantasy is now becoming reality - no regrets here. I have wanted this for so long that it is only relief that I feel.

I've still got my balls, but they don't make T any more - or at least not very much of it. My prostate must be shrinking - I can pee properly again. Hurrah! I still enjoy sex but it is no longer a priority one item. Hurrah again!

I think it all depends on your viewpoint and frame of mind. If it is a fantasy that takes over (obsession) and makes you actually do it, there will certainly be regrets afterwards. Deliberate planning and moving towards a goal is much more rewarding than a sucumbing to a sudden (possibly drunken) urge.

[Hot (imported)]

I enjoy reading the posts here concerning the castration fantasy and if it might eventually lead to reality. Not on much, so have fun catching up on comments.

In my case while the castration thought has always been there my fantasy changes from time to time as time marches onward! Ha.

My opinion is that each and all are uniquely different and it takes just as many personal fantasy thoughts to trip the trigger to an orgasm or obsession which might lead to reality.

Fantasy of late: Castration with a smile.

My wife has finally agreed to let me bring home another man about 10 years her junior. He is aquainted with her rather casually, is a rancher and owns a meat packing business, also known as a ladies man. Seems he pleases the ladies to such an extent he meets new women by recommendation, one doctor even paid him handsomely for his service to his wife.

For many years my wife and I would occasionally discuss my desire to watch her with another man but in all that time she refused. Well mostly refused. She said she could do it but if she did it would change our relationship. She would still love me but sex would not be the same.

So after some years now she is agreeable for me to bring the rancher man to our home for dinner. When I mentioned his name, she replied: yes I have heard some of the women discuss him at my hair dressers. They all say he is a nice man and fun to be with.

She told me to understand that if she did what I wanted that she would share with him my shared secret desire to be castrated and that she would do so in front of me. She told me if I could handle that, then okay. I had asked her if she would like to castrate me during our love making. She said yes she would like to remove them, but did not want to go to jail. :>) She then would take my balls in her hand and squeeze until I nearly begged her to stop, saying if I castrate you, it will hurt much more than this.

She told me if she goes to bed with him she will probably want to continue a relationship based on the rumors she has heard. So be prepared she said to have your sex life change. He just might be the man to arrange to have you castrated.

She smiled, you better get all the pussy you can between now and when we have dinner, you horny old fart, because things will change.

..end...

So you see my fantasy remains, some changed. Will it lead to reality? Most likely not. If it did, then what? Well, I guess no nuts on papa. Hot will be cooled!! Ha, ha.