Penile shrinkage?

[JesusA]

For one of the academic papers on the eunuch community that has now been submitted for review for publication, one of the reviewers has made a rather snarky comment that penile shrinkage after castration is not real, but only folk belief. The only academic article that I have found to date that mentions it is by C.S.Higano (Side effects of androgen deprivation therapy: Monitoring and minimizing toxicity. Urology, 61 (2003), 32-38). When contacted about her research, she said that it was only anecdotal from talking with her prostate cancer patients who had been chemically castrated.

I would like to have some REAL data to counter the comment (and to give some real information here on the Archive).

Are there any members here who have measured their penis before and after either chemical or surgical castration? If so, what was the length before and after? And, how much time elapsed between measures? Information showing no change is just as valuable as that with change. Also needed is what sort of hormone replacement therapy (if any) you have used.

Please either post your answers below or send me a Private Message. I will tally the results and let you all know.

[tugon (imported)]

I went from an erect length of 5.5 inches while intact to a little under 4 inches while erect post castration. Penile shrinkage it does exist.

[JesusA]

Thank you, Tugon. I appreciate your willingness to provide information.

I am surprised, however, that there have been over 400 hits on this thread and you are the only one willing to share information.

[Kangan (imported)]

I'm not castrated, but when I was 16 my penis was 6 1/8 inches. Now at age 65 it is 5 3/4 inches. Could this be due to testosterone loss with aging?

[n3rf (imported)]

I measure mine this morning from the rear bottom to the tip, and I measured 2.5 Inches. I suspect that it is the HERBS I am taking regularly every day - morning and afternoon, and if it gets errect ?? I havn't seen that in a long time, so I am not sure I remember THAT ..I cant recall what it was.

In my world - there are NO SECRETS so I don't mind sharing what I learn, what I know, what I see, and what I measure etc at all. Regards You limpy Dicks. I am one too.

N3RF

[erikboy (imported)]

I am not castrated, but I wanted to comment n3rf msg about penis leght loss with age. Yes it could be testosterone loss that causes penis shortening. But as you compare your current measurement with age 16 measurement you should consider your body changes over time. First more muscles and then more fat. I have noticed that I've lost some of my penis lenght because it has sunk into my body partially due to increased body fat.

[n3rf (imported)]

Interesting. I have been 180 lbs and when I went to sea during the '90's I went up to 220. Now I am working my way down and reached 198 lbs , so I am slowly getting back - I think. So for a 6 ft 2 inch tall me, I guess the body fat could do it ?? .. Hi. I took Hodia for several months that cut down my "appetite". I stopped using these Herb

tablets, but I still have "low appetite" so I think I will reach the 180 lbs by the summer ..Hi I doupt my little Thingi will grow back ..High-Hopes.N3RF

[Kangan (imported)]

Let's see - I've lost 3/8 of an inch in 50 years. I suppose it could be due to all the wear and tear of daily use....

[tugon (imported)]

Let's see - I've lost 3/8 of an inch in 50 years. I suppose it could be due to all the wear and tear of daily use....

Thank you.

[hornchurchmale (imported)]

there is evidence that all penis's shrink with age mainly due to lack of blood pressure and fitness of the tissue ets also there is normally an increased fat content on the muscle above and around the lower abdomen whcih in effect 'draws ' or hides some of the penis length.

the main advantage of removal of testicles is that it is almost unheard of for male pattern baldness to take effct if done early in the males life.

[BossTamsin (imported)]

there is evidence that all penis's shrink with age mainly due to lack of blood pressure and fitness of the tissue ets also there is normally an increased fat content on the muscle above and around the lower abdomen whcih in effect 'draws ' or hides some of the penis length.

the main advantage of removal of testicles is that it is almost unheard of for male pattern baldness to take effct if done early in the males life.

That and the whole 'no sex drive' thing, minimal chances of prostate cancer, zero chance of testicular cancer...

[Eunuchist (imported)]

That and the whole 'no sex drive' thing, minimal chances of prostate cancer, zero chance of testicular cancer...

But also (assuming "average" circumstances and no HRT): eliminated chance of developing the very common Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia (in fact, a majority of the examined Chinese eunuchs had an impalpable prostate), reduced incidence of cardiac events, reduced risk of hepatic cancer (liver cirrhosis), reduced incidence of stroke, but ALSO (and thank God for that!): Greatly reduced adult body order wich help keep all those damned flies away while hiking in the woods. (take it from a dedicated outdoor enthusiast).

Of course, if the whole "no sex drive thing" eventually leads to chastity (or helps keep a eunuch chaste), as a nice bonus, it would also be possible to avoid some 16 devastating STD's, a wole host of unique punishments especially reserved for those shamelessly defiling themselves out of wedlock (just ask Pat Robertson).

[OneBallBoi (imported)]

The average man does not want to discuss his penis length. It's his privates. The longer penis bring more satisfaction for both partners. I have been on Chemical Castration for over 3 years now and I have lost 1 1/2" in length during that time.

[n3rf (imported)]

Does anyone else have a 2 1/2 inch Rod ?? I somehow think mine shrank because of the Herbs I have been taking regularly now for almost a year ((saw-palmeto, black ochosh and lately treplaced the last one with estroven)).

About Body Odor. I think the smell of my LEAK has been reduced. The taste is not salty and quite pleasant tasting. The smell used to drive her nuts. Maybe it is less now.

Still doing a lot of Laundry when "accident" happen.N3RF

[Beau Geste (imported)]

I read somewhere--can't remember where, it was a long time ago--that a reduction in the length of the male organ, both flaccid and erect, is a normal effect of the aging process. As mentioned above, this might be a result of lower levels of testosterone and fewer erections. Shrinkage in various body parts is considered part of the aging process. The brain, in particular, gets smaller, whether the person goes Alzheimer or not. But the ears do get bigger.

This all calls to mind a passage I remember reading in one of John O'Hara's novels--don't recall which one. I never actually read any of his books from beginning to end. In the passage, a character who is a prostitute is discussing her profession, and she comments that she likes to service older men because she can charge them more, but their organs are too small to fully satisfy her. If I remember it right, she is then shown a picture of a Mexican boy with a phallus that extends down to his knees, and that really gets her attention.

[Eviration2005 (imported)]

Since starting chemical castration back in July of 2005, my penis has shrunk from 3" to 2.25" flaccid and from 5.5" to 4" erect. I almost never get a spontaneous erection even during the night, though I can still manually stimulate the wink.

[Slammr (imported)]

I read somewhere--can't remember where, it was a long time ago--that a reduction in the length of the male organ, both flaccid and erect, is a normal effect of the aging process.

I first measured mine when I was twelve. It was 6-1/4 inches. At age 67, it is still 6-1/4 inches, but then, I've never had any difficulty getting an erection, and I still have my testicles.

[SteveA (imported)]

I have been on herbal estrogens for about 6 years. At the start, my penis measured 6.25 inches erect and hard. (I weighed 225 then)

I have had no sex in the last ten years and have not masturbated in about a year. I had to "work" at it to get it up this morning. I measured in at 4.5 inches erect. But I could only get a rubbery hardness. (I now weigh 188).



That's my data.

There is an old saying "use it or loose it". I think that applies to the penis. And BTW, It is my desire to be FREE from sex. So all is well!!!;)

[eunnie2006 (imported)]

Mine went from 6" to about 5 1/2". It can still get fully hard.

[estragen (imported)]

I must say a good sized nicely shaped penis in others draws my attention

[Sac_mec (imported)]

OneBallBoi was right the average guy doesn't want to talk about his own length,

beyond a bit of bragging and bravado that they might be 'well hung'; but that kind of chat is not that common, really.

I understand though why, sitting at home infront of your PC lots of guys, especially here, will be attracted to read this thread without wanting to add anything. I felt like that for a while too.

Prescribed drugs brought on impotence for me around 2000 {I'd been on them for 6 years already then} and all I can note is that if I think back to when I achieved erection I had a pretty standard 6" [15cm], but I never took a ruler to it. After I became impotent I sought to be a Chemical Eunuch - it is just as logical as attempting to use pumps and other devices. I'd decided my whole body was giving me a message and I knew my answer.

Erections disappeared about 7 years ago that achieved decent orgasm.

I left my penis entirely alone and went onto Androcur around 2002. I lost a lot of girth at once, which remains the case and in the constantly flaccid state, I imagine it must have reduced in length around 50%+, but these are just observations because I don't have any real interest in it. It's sole purpose is for urinating. Of course my sac has shrunk too.

If I saw a standard length erect penis, it would not disturb me. Even naturally large ones can appear fine too (in images). I do dislike it though when an ordinary decent cock has been enlarged by someone's Photo program. They look so ugly and unatural. As for guys who are naturally small, that is usually much more attractive. Everyone has different thoughts and ideas. It is 100% true though that penile shrinkage is a reality both for many eunuchs and for guys who don't use the penile muscles. If they aren't used, they will shrink. No doubt at all, so being chaste will weaken the penis.

(I still need to take other prescribed drugs too, so I know my own size can only reduce and it isn't a problem for me.)

[n3rf (imported)]

I think mine (Twinki) is shrinking some more. With STIMMING every morning the Ejac was clear this morning. Have to make another measurement soon. N3RF

[JesusA]

I want to thank those who have provided information here, as well as those who sent private messages with information.

I have continued to look for "scientific" information on the subject, but can find only impressionist notes from physicians and those with prostate cancer. With over 80,000 castrations of prostate cancer patients per year (chemical and surgical combined) one would think that someone would have done accurate measurement. It doesn't appear to have happened yet. You have probably provided the best information to date.

Pulling all of the information together, it seems as if there is a shrinkage in length of approximately one half of the gain during puberty.

Should I ever find additional information, I will post it here.

[n3rf (imported)]

So if mine disappears altogether, what should I do, put out a missing "penis" report ?? N3RF

[sapient (imported)]

Well, I could let you have mine when I'm finished with it.

Hopefully that's not to far in the future...