Burdizzo castrations

[emilyann (imported)]

I read the castration primer. Still wondering if there are succesful castration of humans with the burdizzo. AAre ther cutters who use this method and how can someone get injectable pain killers. What are the methods to best endure success.

I i am tg but work as a male (still).

emily-ann

[jemagirl (imported)]

I really need to tell you this method is not a good way to go. I tried it more than once and it doesn't really work. It was used in a Doctors office on a patient once but that was still being done by a doctor. I hope you won't try this your self.

Jema

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

There have been successful Burdizzo castrations but the chances are not good. My rough estimate of the success rate of Burdizzo castration is about 5% to 15% on humans. The results are usually pain and unwelcome damage to the scrotum and cords. --FLO--

[Francis (imported)]

I agree with the others above. This approach sounds simple but is not as easy as it sounds. Although technically it is sometimes feasible most cases I have heard about resulted in painful damage, some infection and ongoing pain. The scrotum suffers significant trauma and may even be breached under the pressure. The whole process is so painful that doing it yourself is out of the question and even if someone else does it, unless they are quite hardened they will probably also be reluctant to press it all the way to a permanent conclusion (it's recommended that the clamping tool be applied at full pressure for a minimum of 30 seconds which would seem like an eternity regardless of whether you were the doer or the done).

Finally it doesn't work in a number of cases and you will only have damaged the cords but not killed them or the attached balls so there you will be probably end up still with the balls, with a damaged scrotum and possible significant ongoing pain from the damage to the cords as well. There is also a significant possibility of infection from the dmaage to the scrotum. The only benefit is that you might then be able to get an urologist to remove them for pain relief. If you want to go that route just go to a urologist anyway and complain about painful balls until he takes them out of frustration. There is no way he can tell the difference between an act and the real thing. I know one guy who was successful with this approach.

I also knew another guy who was successful using a pair of vice grips with two pieces of rod welded to the jaws but he ended up with significant scarring to his scrotum as a result although the balls did atrophy to less than peanut size. I asked him if he would do it again and he said "No way"

I would be interested to hear about other attempts if anyone has first hand experience. Mine is mostly anecdotal except for the vice grip guy.

Francis

[jemagirl (imported)]

Francis I would tell you mine if were not for the worry of encouraging others down the same path.

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

Francis I would tell you mine if were not for the worry of encouraging others down the same path.

There are plenty of people here who could make that statement. --FLO--

[numnuts (imported)]

If the device in theory works to effectively castrate animals, what is it that stops someone from creating an effective device that is specific to castrating humans?

Is it that it's not 'Possible' to castrate humans by crushing the chords, as they do sheep and calves? OR, is it that it IS possible with the correct device, BUT that no one has been able to produce and market one?

AND, if it IS possible to effectively castrate men if there were the correct adaptation of a human burdizzo... and IF it were done correctly with the correct device.......... What would happen to the human testicles?

Would they simply atrophy, shrivel up and be absorbed by the body in the same way it happens with sheep and cattle? (If infact that IS the way it happens to sheep, etc.)

So in effect..........

Is it simply the human alternative of the burdizzo.... the 'Device' itself that is missing?

OR, is it just that human castration with such a device, with ANY device would not be effective in that manor?

[Riven (imported)]

The spermatic cords of humans and animals are all slightly different, and I have read that humans have much softer cords. Perhaps it is this softness that allows them to self-repair so effectively, wheras the harder cords of animals like sheep, bovines, horses, etc. have more of a tendency to break and lose blood flow to the testicle. Who knows? But one way or another, the Burdizzo method does seem to work on animals well enough or farmers and vets wouldn't use the method. However it isn't fool proof because there is discussion on animal husbandry web-sites regarding the most effective way to use the Burdizzo. Plus, there are a great many farmers and vets who do not use the method for the very reason that it's a bit 'hit or miss'.

Many, many, guys have tried Burdizzo castration (on themselves, or with the help of a friend) and we've read about their experiences on this very board. I'd agree with Uncle Flo's estimate of success rate, ie. the chances of success are not good.

[Kangan (imported)]

Here's a question: I have had a vasectomy and a goodly bit of my sperm ducts were cut and removed. In fact, I can feel where the cut ends are at both the testicle and in the cord with a large gap between. So if I were to crush the cord between these points, I would only be damaging the blood vessels. I've got some clamps of about the right size, however, I haven't tried them out yet. Without a big lumpy vas deferens in the way, would I be able to cause my testicles to wither away?

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

A man can be castrated with a burdizzo.

The key is a burdizzo with thin jaws .I had a chifa burdizzo and a burdizzo ....burdizzo.One made in poland and the other in italy.I used them on the farm all the time.They both had a failure rate.The chifa was the worst.

Then I got my hands on a stainless steel wimco.A differant design.The failure rate dropped to almost zero.

That is the one I decided to have used on me.

It worked well.

The other key thing is for the operator to get hold of the cords with the fingers and not let go of them thru the procedure.The cords have to be held against the side.This requires help.Someone has to do the castrating.I was lucky and my wife did it.She also knows how to do the procedure which helps.

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

It is easier to convince a urologist you have painful testicles that need removing.But this approach takes time.

[numnuts (imported)]

But again, my other question is, if it is supposedly done 'RIGHT' on a human, for all intensive purposes, in the best possible way, in the best possible manner, with all expectations achieved with the instrument.........

What THEN happens to the man and his testicles? Do they... Can they.... Will they just shrivel up and dissappear with no dangerous medical, physical problems whatsoever?

Is THAT possible?

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

the absolute best way is to talk a urologist into doing the removal.It can be done done with insistance.

I wanted it to be done with a burdizzo by my wife as that was my fantasy.

My experience is the testicles shrank for 2 years to the size of peanuts.I healed very fast and had no pain after the healing.When my doctor saw the result he insisted on removing them which he did in his office under a local in about 30 minutes.

I heal fast and easy.Other experience may not be the same.

My wife is a expert also being a vet.

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

I have only my own experience with the burdizzo which was preformed by a vet who has done it on animals a 1000 times and knew how to do it properly and was familiar with the anatomy of the scrotum and the testicles.

The other is a medical doctor who used a burdizzo which I thought would be too small to do a proper job.In the medical article he castrated the man successfully as the article says the testicles shrank and hormone levels dropped to castrate levels.

I think the biggest problem with using a burdizzo is the amateur using it.

[numnuts (imported)]

I don't plan on useing a burdizzo. I was just curious if it was physiologically possible for a male humans testicles to atrophy and be absorbed by the body with no ill effects of necessary medical attention.

(On the basis of course, of having a human version of the burdizzo applied in the best of all possible medical situations and conditions)

[emilyann (imported)]

Thanks every body, Seem the general consensus is that a burdizzo is not the way to go but some feel in the hands of anoperateur with the right tool it maybe possible. I have the toll but not the operator and the risk seem to high so i will probably change threads and go for chemical castration. you'l probably see me post there soon after i read what has been said. Any private messages are appreciated.

emily-ann

[satanherself (imported)]

I belive some Dr's. are actually doing the procedure now,would love to see there write up on it .

[kristoff]

I belive some Dr's. are actually doing the procedure now,would love to see there write up on it .

There has only been one single journal article about a doc doing this with a TG person, and claiming success, so far as I can find. And I am suspicious of it.

[satanherself (imported)]

There has only been one single journal article about a doc doing this with a TG person, and claiming success, so far as I can find. And I am suspicious of it.

I remember Shannon posting something about it on BME a while back,,I would be amazed if the AMA actually supported it,thought I guess there is supply and demand in the medical field as well