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What I find interesting at least in my case I knew I needed castration and nothing was going to stop me.My body was telling me to get testosterone out of my system and I am so much better today for that.Sometimes we just cant ignor what our bodies are telling us.
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jemagirl (imported) wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:17 pm For me $4,000 is a fortune and $8,000 seems like the national debt. I'm willing though there doesn't seem any way.
Way back in 1975 I got a vasectomy in an urologist's office for around $90. So paying $2000 or more for an orchiectomy seems excessive as the operations are similar. Add in the travel costs and the hotel bills and you are getting very pricey. However, I think vasectomies today are about $1000 (correct me if I am wrong).
I'm not in favor of DIY but what other choice is there other than spending big $$$?
My bloodless method seems to be working for me, but you still have to have a vasectomy first in order for it to work properly.
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sag111 (imported) wrote: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:26 pm What I find interesting at least in my case I knew I needed castration and nothing was going to stop me.My body was telling me to get testosterone out of my system and I am so much better today for that.Sometimes we just cant ignor what our bodies are telling us.
SAg - I'm with you on this point. I just wish that I had found the EA sooner.
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kristoff wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:21 am I would suggest that anyone who actually tries this could easily be regarded as an idiot. I think that summarizes my thoughts quite simply.
Well, as a method for castration sure. But - substituting some other material for suture - it would be a very cool body modification to have your scrotum "sewn shut". It could be done without damage, although there would always be a risk for it of course. And probably some inconvenience when the balls tried to draw back up towards the body.
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Update on progress:
Yesterday, I tried the clamp on my right cord again since I was not satisfied with the shrinkage of my right testis. The first thing that I discovered was that there was no sensation in the cord. It's dead. No need for further clamping. Testis feels firm and has little sensation (actually it is difficult to tell if the sensation is in the testis or in the skin of the scrotum).
Today, my wife checked me again. Whee! It's fun getting felt up! Anyhow, she says she is certain that the right testis is dead and is slowly shrinking.
I suggested that it might be time to clamp the left cord. The wife suggested that I wait and see if there were any further changes or problems first. So I am holding off for now. But she did give my pubes a good clean shave. More enjoyment! However, she does not want to see me clamp the cord (at some future date) despite there being no blood or even much pain. Darn! Any volunteers? (Just kidding.)
Yesterday, I tried the clamp on my right cord again since I was not satisfied with the shrinkage of my right testis. The first thing that I discovered was that there was no sensation in the cord. It's dead. No need for further clamping. Testis feels firm and has little sensation (actually it is difficult to tell if the sensation is in the testis or in the skin of the scrotum).
Today, my wife checked me again. Whee! It's fun getting felt up! Anyhow, she says she is certain that the right testis is dead and is slowly shrinking.
I suggested that it might be time to clamp the left cord. The wife suggested that I wait and see if there were any further changes or problems first. So I am holding off for now. But she did give my pubes a good clean shave. More enjoyment! However, she does not want to see me clamp the cord (at some future date) despite there being no blood or even much pain. Darn! Any volunteers? (Just kidding.)
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Maybe get a ruler and take measurements of the shrinking teste, to see how fast that little bugger disappears (after burdizzo'd they do disappear, dont they?).
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From my observations the "little bugger" won't disappear but will shrink to about one fourth its former size. However, some shrink a lot and some only a little bit. I've never seen one that was completely absorbed. --FLO--
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Uncle Flo (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:38 am From my observations the "little bugger" won't disappear but will shrink to about one fourth its former size. However, some shrink a lot and some only a little bit. I've never seen one that was completely absorbed. --FLO--
Oh, no shit. I thought they were supposed to be completely absorbed. But I guess I never took the burdizzo option too seriously for myself since it sounds so damn painful. Also that one guy who had a rather elaborate and informative website set-up with all kinds of info surrounding his burdizzo castration, and it just all seemed to me so much less effective than just carving the thingies out.
Though the idea that burdizzo'ing might mean no hospital assistance certainly was attractive at that time, and if it works I suppose that would be much more cost-effective that having to go the hospital to get patched-up and go through with all the mental inpatient crap.
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Thanks for the input from you-all about ball shrinkage (or not). Looks like my right ball is not going to shrink much. However, you can tell that it is dead because it is cooler in temperature than the left one.
The way to measure ball size is with a set of calibrated plastic ovoids that come on a long chain or thread like a weird looking bracelet. I don't have this gadget, but I do have a full size 2-dimensional version (outlines only) on a piece of paper. The 3-D gadget is used by feeling the patient's balls and then feeling the gadget and comparing the size. It is quite a bit harder to do this with only a flat paper template. The ovoids are numbered from 1 to 8, 10, 14, 16, 18, and 25. The instructions say that 4 thru 14 are prepubescent. Adult size is 16 thru 27. My right ball looks to be a 14 and the undamaged left is perhaps an 18. Using a ruler I find that a 10 is 36 mm, 14 is 42 mm, 16 is 44 mm, and 18 is 45 mm, while 25 is 50 mm along the longest axis. I think the numbers refer to volume, but I am not sure.
One thing that strikes me as strange is how easy it was for me to kill my right ball. There was little or no pain, and I used a simple handheld plastic woodworking clamp that I bought at a hardware store for about $6. I only clamped the cord for about 1 minute each for three times trying various positions to be sure to get all of the cord in the flat clamp jaws which are only about 30x35 mm.
Please note that I do not have any vas deferens (sperm ducts) since they were removed in a vasectomy many years ago. It is my opinion that having an intact vas makes it problematical and painful to use a Burdizzo. The vas deferens is about the diameter of a lead pencil with a very tiny almost microscopic duct in the center. The vas is very tough and rubbery. (I was able to examine mine after they were cut and removed.) With no vas in the way, clamping the blood vessels was extremely easy and almost painless.
My wife wants me to hold off on doing the left side for a few weeks, otherwise I'd be a full eunuch already.
After both sides are dead, I'll go have a physical done by my family doctor and see if he can tell if anything is wrong with my testicles. I'll tell him that I fell over a sawhorse and bruised my groin a while back if he wants to know what happened. Then it should be easy to find an urologist who will remove my dead balls, and my long journey will be over.
The way to measure ball size is with a set of calibrated plastic ovoids that come on a long chain or thread like a weird looking bracelet. I don't have this gadget, but I do have a full size 2-dimensional version (outlines only) on a piece of paper. The 3-D gadget is used by feeling the patient's balls and then feeling the gadget and comparing the size. It is quite a bit harder to do this with only a flat paper template. The ovoids are numbered from 1 to 8, 10, 14, 16, 18, and 25. The instructions say that 4 thru 14 are prepubescent. Adult size is 16 thru 27. My right ball looks to be a 14 and the undamaged left is perhaps an 18. Using a ruler I find that a 10 is 36 mm, 14 is 42 mm, 16 is 44 mm, and 18 is 45 mm, while 25 is 50 mm along the longest axis. I think the numbers refer to volume, but I am not sure.
One thing that strikes me as strange is how easy it was for me to kill my right ball. There was little or no pain, and I used a simple handheld plastic woodworking clamp that I bought at a hardware store for about $6. I only clamped the cord for about 1 minute each for three times trying various positions to be sure to get all of the cord in the flat clamp jaws which are only about 30x35 mm.
Please note that I do not have any vas deferens (sperm ducts) since they were removed in a vasectomy many years ago. It is my opinion that having an intact vas makes it problematical and painful to use a Burdizzo. The vas deferens is about the diameter of a lead pencil with a very tiny almost microscopic duct in the center. The vas is very tough and rubbery. (I was able to examine mine after they were cut and removed.) With no vas in the way, clamping the blood vessels was extremely easy and almost painless.
My wife wants me to hold off on doing the left side for a few weeks, otherwise I'd be a full eunuch already.
After both sides are dead, I'll go have a physical done by my family doctor and see if he can tell if anything is wrong with my testicles. I'll tell him that I fell over a sawhorse and bruised my groin a while back if he wants to know what happened. Then it should be easy to find an urologist who will remove my dead balls, and my long journey will be over.
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There are various ways to measure testicle size. An ultrasound is considered to be the most accurate of these, though it is expensive and requires elaborate machinery and analysis of the results.
There has been reference here to direct measurement using calipers. This takes some calculation, but is also considered quite accurate. Testicular volumes are calculated using the formula - length x width x height x 0.71.
Most commonly, though, medical personnel will use an "orchidometer." These come in various forms, though the most common are the "Prader Orchidometer," a string of testicle-shaped beads, and the "Rochester Orchidometer," a series of flat pieces of metal, each with a cut-out the shape of a testicle. The Prader orchidometer consists of 12 solid ellipses of various sizes (1-25 cc) while the Rochester orchidometer is a series of flat cut out elliptical rings (1-30 cc) which can be placed directly over the testis. The testicles are compared with the orchidometer to find the closest match in size.
The prepubertal testis is approximately 2 cc in volume. The onset of puberty begins with enlargement of the testis at approximately 11.4 years. The growth spurt in height starts when the testes are approximately of 8 cc in volume and hits its maximum at approximately 12 cc. For most boys, the voice begins to deepen at a testicle size of about 12 to 13 cc. The normal adult testis is 15-25 ml. First production of motile sperm occurs at a median age of 13.4 years (range 11.7 to 15.3), at a time when median testicle size is 11.5 cc Azoospermia (lack of fertile sperm) is likely if the volume of each adult testis is 10 cc or less.
Here is the Wikipedia article on the orchidometer, with a link to a PDF of a Rochester-type orchidometer:
Orchidometer
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
An orchidometer is a medical instrument used to measure the volume of the testicles.
The orchidometer was introduced in 1966 by pediatric endocrinologist Andreas Prader of the University of Zurich. It consists of a string of twelve numbered wooden or plastic beads of increasing size from about 1 to 25 millilitres. Doctors sometimes informally refer to them as "Prader's balls", "the medical worry beads", or the "endocrine rosary."
The beads are compared with the testicles of the patient, and the volume is read off the bead which matches most closely in size. Prepubertal sizes are 1-3 ml, pubertal sizes are considered 4 ml and up and adult sizes are 12-25 ml.
The orchidometer can be used to accurately determine size of testes. Discrepancy of testicular size with other parameters of maturation can be an important clue to various diseases. Small testes can indicate either primary or secondary hypogonadism. Testicular size can help distinguish between different types of precocious puberty. Since testicular growth is typically the first physical sign of true puberty, one of the most common uses is as confirmation that puberty is beginning in a boy with delay. Large testes (macroorchidism) can be a clue to one of the most common causes of mental retardation, fragile X syndrome.
Professor Stephen Shalet, a leading endocrinologist who works for the Christie Hospital in Manchester, is reported to have told The Observer, "Every endocrinologist should have an orchidometer. It's his stethoscope."
Further reading:
Prader, A., "Testicular size: Assessment and clinical importance", Triangle, 1966, vol. 7, pp. 240 - 243
Taranger, J., Engström, I., Lichtensten, H., Svenberg-Redegren, I., "Somatic Pubertal Development", Acta Pediatr. Scand. Suppl. 1976, vol. 258, pp. 121 - 135
External links:
"Orchidometer" (http://www.geocities.com/toonpoontycoon ... ometer.pdf) - A printable paper orchidometer in PDF format. [The equivalent of a Rochester Orchidometer]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchidometer
There has been reference here to direct measurement using calipers. This takes some calculation, but is also considered quite accurate. Testicular volumes are calculated using the formula - length x width x height x 0.71.
Most commonly, though, medical personnel will use an "orchidometer." These come in various forms, though the most common are the "Prader Orchidometer," a string of testicle-shaped beads, and the "Rochester Orchidometer," a series of flat pieces of metal, each with a cut-out the shape of a testicle. The Prader orchidometer consists of 12 solid ellipses of various sizes (1-25 cc) while the Rochester orchidometer is a series of flat cut out elliptical rings (1-30 cc) which can be placed directly over the testis. The testicles are compared with the orchidometer to find the closest match in size.
The prepubertal testis is approximately 2 cc in volume. The onset of puberty begins with enlargement of the testis at approximately 11.4 years. The growth spurt in height starts when the testes are approximately of 8 cc in volume and hits its maximum at approximately 12 cc. For most boys, the voice begins to deepen at a testicle size of about 12 to 13 cc. The normal adult testis is 15-25 ml. First production of motile sperm occurs at a median age of 13.4 years (range 11.7 to 15.3), at a time when median testicle size is 11.5 cc Azoospermia (lack of fertile sperm) is likely if the volume of each adult testis is 10 cc or less.
Here is the Wikipedia article on the orchidometer, with a link to a PDF of a Rochester-type orchidometer:
Orchidometer
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
An orchidometer is a medical instrument used to measure the volume of the testicles.
The orchidometer was introduced in 1966 by pediatric endocrinologist Andreas Prader of the University of Zurich. It consists of a string of twelve numbered wooden or plastic beads of increasing size from about 1 to 25 millilitres. Doctors sometimes informally refer to them as "Prader's balls", "the medical worry beads", or the "endocrine rosary."
The beads are compared with the testicles of the patient, and the volume is read off the bead which matches most closely in size. Prepubertal sizes are 1-3 ml, pubertal sizes are considered 4 ml and up and adult sizes are 12-25 ml.
The orchidometer can be used to accurately determine size of testes. Discrepancy of testicular size with other parameters of maturation can be an important clue to various diseases. Small testes can indicate either primary or secondary hypogonadism. Testicular size can help distinguish between different types of precocious puberty. Since testicular growth is typically the first physical sign of true puberty, one of the most common uses is as confirmation that puberty is beginning in a boy with delay. Large testes (macroorchidism) can be a clue to one of the most common causes of mental retardation, fragile X syndrome.
Professor Stephen Shalet, a leading endocrinologist who works for the Christie Hospital in Manchester, is reported to have told The Observer, "Every endocrinologist should have an orchidometer. It's his stethoscope."
Further reading:
Prader, A., "Testicular size: Assessment and clinical importance", Triangle, 1966, vol. 7, pp. 240 - 243
Taranger, J., Engström, I., Lichtensten, H., Svenberg-Redegren, I., "Somatic Pubertal Development", Acta Pediatr. Scand. Suppl. 1976, vol. 258, pp. 121 - 135
External links:
"Orchidometer" (http://www.geocities.com/toonpoontycoon ... ometer.pdf) - A printable paper orchidometer in PDF format. [The equivalent of a Rochester Orchidometer]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchidometer
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Kangan (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:58 am Please note that I do not have any vas deferens (sperm ducts) since they were removed in a vasectomy many years ago. It is my opinion that having an intact vas makes it problematical and painful to use a Burdizzo. The vas deferens is about the diameter of a lead pencil with a very tiny almost microscopic duct in the center. The vas is very tough and rubbery. (I was able to examine mine after they were cut and removed.) With no vas in the way, clamping the blood vessels was extremely easy and almost painless.
If this theory is correct, you may have discovered a cheap way for guys to get castrated. All they have to do is have a vasectomy, where they remove a section of cord, wait a while and do your clamping.
Kangan (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:58 am After both sides are dead, I'll go have a physical done by my family doctor and see if he can tell if anything is wrong with my testicles. I'll tell him that I fell over a sawhorse and bruised my groin a while back if he wants to know what happened. Then it should be easy to find an urologist who will remove my dead balls, and my long journey will be over.
It's not likely you will fool the urologist. They can see in an ultrasound where you clamped. That I know from experience. I just did a little clamping with a pair of needle nose pliers and they saw that. So did I when I saw the picture.
You might want to save the embarrassment and just get your testosterone level checked. That will tell if they are working or not.
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Thanks for the warning. Mine will look like a square mark about 1cm x 1cm under the ultrasound. I could always refuse the ultrasound exam....
Needle-nosed pliers? OUCH! That sounds worse than using a Burdizzo.
Hairless (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:32 am If this theory is correct, you may have discovered a cheap way for guys to get castrated. All they have to do is have a vasectomy, where they remove a section of cord, wait a while and do your clamping.
el checked. That will tell if they are working or not.Kangan (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:58 am After both sides are dead, I'll go have a physical done by my family doctor and see if he can tell if anything is wrong with my testicles. I'll tell him that I fell over a sawhorse and bruised my groin a while back if he wants to know what happened. Then it should be easy to find an urologist who will remove my
It's not likely you will fool the urologist. They can see in an ultrasound where you clamped. That I know from experience. I just did a little clamping with a pair of needle nose pliers and they saw that. So did I when I saw the picture.
You might want to save the embarrassment and just get your testosterone lev
Thanks for the warning. Mine will look like a square mark about 1cm x 1cm under the ultrasound. I could always refuse the ultrasound exam....
Needle-nosed pliers? OUCH! That sounds worse than using a Burdizzo.
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Kangan (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:23 am Needle-nosed pliers? OUCH! That sounds worse than using a Burdizzo.
No it's not worse than a Burdizzo. --FLO--
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Here's an update on my condition:
Right ball is shrunken (perhaps half size) and feels solid to the touch. I'm pretty sure it is dead, and my wife thinks so too. I am amazed that a simple clamp with a gadget that looks like a pair of vise-grip pliers for only one minute did the job. Without the vas deferens in the way, the blood vessels were easy to squash without any feeling other than a nasty squeezing sensation that wasn't really painful to take.
I'm not sure that my left ball is functional either as I have lost a lot of my sex drive and morning erections don't last very long. Also, I can piss better so I'd guess my prostate is shrinking too. I did play with a rubber band around my scrotum before I used the clamp on the right side. Possibly I damaged the left side blood vessels with the banding experiment (that was painful). Left ball is still the same size and has feeling in it and feels slightly squishy (normal) to the touch, but my T level is definitely down.
In 6-weeks or so, I've only had sex with the wife once, and the orgasm felt normal although it might not have been as strong. Today I felt horny upon waking, but it went away soon after. I did have some semen dribble out of my penis so my prostate is still making fluid. I should try masturbating, but I don't really feel like it. I guess I'm right where I wanted to be - a eunuch at last, or at least a partial eunuch. No real hot flashes yet, but my wife seemed to think that I was having one the other day (and she ought to know as she has them all the time). No apparent loss of muscle tone or strength, but then I was never very muscular anyway. If anything, my enthusiasm and energy level are up - not down.
Another interesting observation -- my pubic hair has slowed or even stopped growing! My wife shaved me just after I did the clamping. Now my pubic hair is growing out, but not at the rate at which it used to.
Right ball is shrunken (perhaps half size) and feels solid to the touch. I'm pretty sure it is dead, and my wife thinks so too. I am amazed that a simple clamp with a gadget that looks like a pair of vise-grip pliers for only one minute did the job. Without the vas deferens in the way, the blood vessels were easy to squash without any feeling other than a nasty squeezing sensation that wasn't really painful to take.
I'm not sure that my left ball is functional either as I have lost a lot of my sex drive and morning erections don't last very long. Also, I can piss better so I'd guess my prostate is shrinking too. I did play with a rubber band around my scrotum before I used the clamp on the right side. Possibly I damaged the left side blood vessels with the banding experiment (that was painful). Left ball is still the same size and has feeling in it and feels slightly squishy (normal) to the touch, but my T level is definitely down.
In 6-weeks or so, I've only had sex with the wife once, and the orgasm felt normal although it might not have been as strong. Today I felt horny upon waking, but it went away soon after. I did have some semen dribble out of my penis so my prostate is still making fluid. I should try masturbating, but I don't really feel like it. I guess I'm right where I wanted to be - a eunuch at last, or at least a partial eunuch. No real hot flashes yet, but my wife seemed to think that I was having one the other day (and she ought to know as she has them all the time). No apparent loss of muscle tone or strength, but then I was never very muscular anyway. If anything, my enthusiasm and energy level are up - not down.
Another interesting observation -- my pubic hair has slowed or even stopped growing! My wife shaved me just after I did the clamping. Now my pubic hair is growing out, but not at the rate at which it used to.
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Further update - time about 2-months (I don't even remember when I did it exactly - have to check my first post). -- note: must have been 6/2 or 6/3/07 - first post was 6/5.
Libido is way down. Morning erections are sometimes absent and go away quickly. Semen emission is about half what it was before and orgasm feels a bit weak. Only two orgasms in 2 months time. I can still think sexy thoughts, but only when I want to and even then they go away quickly.
Now getting hot flashes. Wife even noticed.
There may be a possiblility that the right side blood vessels are slowly recovering from the clamping job. Right testicle is still shrunken and dead feeling however, compared to the left. I'm pretty sure that my left one is damaged too - from several banding experiments.
I am planning to see my doctor for a physical and a T test.
...but Kristoff thinks that I am a liar....
Libido is way down. Morning erections are sometimes absent and go away quickly. Semen emission is about half what it was before and orgasm feels a bit weak. Only two orgasms in 2 months time. I can still think sexy thoughts, but only when I want to and even then they go away quickly.
Now getting hot flashes. Wife even noticed.
There may be a possiblility that the right side blood vessels are slowly recovering from the clamping job. Right testicle is still shrunken and dead feeling however, compared to the left. I'm pretty sure that my left one is damaged too - from several banding experiments.
I am planning to see my doctor for a physical and a T test.
...but Kristoff thinks that I am a liar....
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"I can still think sexy thoughts,"
Prove it.
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I find that aspect of a low T levels both comforting and annoying. I can be all hot and bothered one moment and the next I'm all like, "Oooh! Over there -- something shiny!", and then the urge to impale myself on Christian Bale disappears quite rapidly.
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Photos of you nuts in a vice might dispel people's doubts. In this photo it is a must that you are sporting and ear-to-ear grin and flashing a double-thumbs up. Also a t-shirt that says 'I castrated myself in wood shop and all I got was this lousy t-shirt' would be a plus. Or maybe 'Eunuch power', 'E4L: Eunuch for life', '<-- I'm with nutless'. I dunno. heh.. I need to find a slogan to print on a shirt.
Prove it.
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"Kangan (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:28 am but only when I want to and even then they go away quickly.
I find that aspect of a low T levels both comforting and annoying. I can be all hot and bothered one moment and the next I'm all like, "Oooh! Over there -- something shiny!", and then the urge to impale myself on Christian Bale disappears quite rapidly.
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Photos of you nuts in a vice might dispel people's doubts. In this photo it is a must that you are sporting and ear-to-ear grin and flashing a double-thumbs up. Also a t-shirt that says 'I castrated myself in wood shop and all I got was this lousy t-shirt' would be a plus. Or maybe 'Eunuch power', 'E4L: Eunuch for life', '<-- I'm with nutless'. I dunno. heh.. I need to find a slogan to print on a shirt.
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Kangan (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:28 am Further update - time about 2-months (I don't even remember when I did it exactly - have to check my first post). -- note: must have been 6/2 or 6/3/07 - first post was 6/5.
Libido is way down. Morning erections are sometimes absent and go away quickly. Semen emission is about half what it was before and orgasm feels a bit weak. Only two orgasms in 2 months time. I can still think sexy thoughts, but only when I want to and even then they go away quickly.
Now getting hot flashes. Wife even noticed.
There may be a possiblility that the right side blood vessels are slowly recovering from the clamping job. Right testicle is still shrunken and dead feeling however, compared to the left. I'm pretty sure that my left one is damaged too - from several banding experiments.
I am planning to see my doctor for a physical and a T test.
...but Kristoff thinks that I am a liar....
SINCE YOU WANNA DO IT IN PUBLIC:
From your PM:
So you don't believe me. I post my results and you refuse to believe me. But if I said (falsely) that my ultrasound revealed a dead ball - then you would believe me, or would you need to see the ultrasound itself?
It worked. Just ask my wife. My prostate output is down - way down - I can pee better - I am having hot flashes - AND I don't care so strongly about sex like I used to.
How many folks on here have claimed to have been castrated -- and lied about it? I'd say a whole bunch.
One of the biggest apparent liars is ***** - his story changes all the time. From what little contact that I have had via email, it is apparent that he is a pimp for a couple of Doms. He is far too interested in sex to be an eunuch as he claims.
I am going to visit my doctor for a physical soon (when we get done moving out of the old house and things calm down a bit). One of the things that I want checked is my T-level. I will keep you posted as to the results. If he wants an ultrasound, I'll have to tell him what I did....
You have really pissed me off by posting a negative comment and then closing the thread so that I couldn't reply in public to your insinuations that I was a liar. What the H***?! I thought the EA was a friendly place?
My PM response:
Firstly, I don't give rats ass about ***** or whatever and his pimping....
Otherwise,
My original post:
Deceased testicle? From what you have described: Possible. Very highly unlikely.
I stand by my statement. I have seen this too many times to place great credence in ANY type of Burdizzo castration. Yes, it IS possible, usually after many manglings and great amounts of abuse. After one or two clamps - very unlikely.......
When you can tell us you have had an ultrasound that demonstrates it is a goner, I'll believe it. Otherwise, it doesn't jibe with the experience and knowledge of a lot of folks before you.
See above.
Not calling you a BS-er.
Can't be any more plain than that! I have no doubt you believe in what you posted. I am skeptical, and I usually calls em like I sees em, but that does not preclude my error.
Lots of folks do things, and then BELIEVE results have happened, and act accordingly, as in self-fulfilling prophecy, even when they haven't....
This says more than anything in the entire post. "Tom's" posts tend to bear that out quite amply. The experiences of MANY before you or Tom also bear this out.
Again, HIGHLY unlikely, but certainly possible. I generally take folk at their word, but will question things that don't seem / feel quite right. If you tell me your T level has plummeted, or that an ultrasound shows no blood flow in the testicle, I'll believe you. If you tell me without those, I'll take you at your word, but I will still question it from afar. As such, no apology - merely explanation.
The reduction in urinary (blockage) is certainly always good news. It may or may not be a result of what you did. I could not say. Good luck there!
Finally, I did not close the thread. Paolo did. My post shows simply because I can't be closed out of threads, as an admin....
If it is important to you to post a response at that location, send it to me - I'll put it in (I won't undo another Ops action in closing a thread); otherwise start a new thread. It might make a good thread topic - I usually refer to the general topic as Psychosomatic Castration (whether applicable here or not).
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kristoff wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:07 am It worked. Just ask my wife. My prostate output is down - way down - I can pee better - I am having hot flashes - AND I don't care so strongly about sex like I used to.
I would very definitely accept this as good evidence of at least some reduction in testicular output. At the very least, I do not believe that one could reasonably argue that a "placebo effect" could extend as far as shrinking of the prostate. I have also a hard time accepting that one could merely "wish away" a significant part of one's libido on - apparently - a more or less permanent basis.
It is a medical fact that testosterone approaches castrate values as soon as 3 to 12 hours post-castration *. This is true in the case of banding also, since there is an immediate, though often temporary, loss of testicular function. Thus, one could actually get a "glimpse" of a more or less "true" castration following a good banding session, but - initially - not for long (there are some exceptions, though, and that is the time isssue. It takes some time for the brain to fully realize that testosterone has been depleted. Some eunuchs still report changes in their emotions and attitudes as far as 2 years later). In my extensive experience, in order to obtain effective permanent results, one would have to do it repeatedly for a very long time, usually years, on BOTH testicles. Of course that depends on the method used, as well. The more aggressive the intervention, the more lasting and profound effect one would get. A good indicator of success is the reduction of volume and/or density, which you seem to have experienced at least on one of your nuts, apparently.
* - for inst., see http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=11389
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'E4L: Eunuch for life',
Hmm.. Seems like a fitting suggestion for a caption for my ID to experiment with. Thanks for the tip!
Hmm.. Seems like a fitting suggestion for a caption for my ID to experiment with. Thanks for the tip!
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twaddler (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:20 am Also a t-shirt that says 'I castrated myself in wood shop and all I got was this lousy t-shirt' would be a plus.
I love this one! ROFL:D
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Thanks for the comments (you too, Krister).
I'd like to think that my experience is not psychosomatic but is physiclaly induced. On the other hand, if I get results, does the method matter?
Now here's the weird part: I clamped only the right cord, but my wife insists that BOTH nuts have shrunk. Also, if my left one was functional, I would still have lots of T in my system. Here's my guess - I damaged the left one with banding attempts and only the right one was producing T, so when I clamped it off, everything quit.
I have been wondering if I should continue clamping at intervals. From what some of the others are saying, it sounds like I should. Just to make sure. I'll do both sides this time. (Squish, change grip, squish again!)
I want to end up with both balls dead anyway so that my doctor will have to refer me for surgery to a local urologist. I want both of them surgically removed to prove once and for all that I am an eunuch to anyone who needs to know.
I'd like to think that my experience is not psychosomatic but is physiclaly induced. On the other hand, if I get results, does the method matter?
Now here's the weird part: I clamped only the right cord, but my wife insists that BOTH nuts have shrunk. Also, if my left one was functional, I would still have lots of T in my system. Here's my guess - I damaged the left one with banding attempts and only the right one was producing T, so when I clamped it off, everything quit.
I have been wondering if I should continue clamping at intervals. From what some of the others are saying, it sounds like I should. Just to make sure. I'll do both sides this time. (Squish, change grip, squish again!)
I want to end up with both balls dead anyway so that my doctor will have to refer me for surgery to a local urologist. I want both of them surgically removed to prove once and for all that I am an eunuch to anyone who needs to know.
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I don't doubt that T levels become within eunuch range after only hours due to the short half-life of natural T, but unfortunately the effects of T loss don't seem to follow quite so quickly.
It would be nice if you were castrated and as soon as T levels hit the floor only hours later, you instantly lose all libido and become forever impotent.
But in reality, it seems to be that erectile changes seem to come first out of the sexual changes (note that I am referring to only sexual effects of castration when I say first - not things such as energy/mood changes). They seem to start within days to weeks, with near total impotence being reached in months.
Prostate reduction seems to take quite some time to change, and does not reduce or cease for long after T has hit zero. Seems to take weeks to months.
Libido changes seem to take the longest of all the sexual effects, with libido not reaching as low as it will go for months to even years, although changes will begin before that. But the idea of sex being "as fun as doing taxes" seems to take a long time to reach. Most eunuchs may not have an overwhelming need for sex soon after T loss, but they would still have a psychological interest in it for quite some time, and they would find the actual act much more exciting than taxes. This seems to have a lot to do with the fact that libido by no means needs T to live since a good part of it is produced within the brain.
So just because T has hit zero does not mean that the changes are instant. Libido, erectile function, and prostate function seem to be able to survive for quite some time after T has disappeared. For some they seem to never leave completely.
It would be nice if you were castrated and as soon as T levels hit the floor only hours later, you instantly lose all libido and become forever impotent.
But in reality, it seems to be that erectile changes seem to come first out of the sexual changes (note that I am referring to only sexual effects of castration when I say first - not things such as energy/mood changes). They seem to start within days to weeks, with near total impotence being reached in months.
Prostate reduction seems to take quite some time to change, and does not reduce or cease for long after T has hit zero. Seems to take weeks to months.
Libido changes seem to take the longest of all the sexual effects, with libido not reaching as low as it will go for months to even years, although changes will begin before that. But the idea of sex being "as fun as doing taxes" seems to take a long time to reach. Most eunuchs may not have an overwhelming need for sex soon after T loss, but they would still have a psychological interest in it for quite some time, and they would find the actual act much more exciting than taxes. This seems to have a lot to do with the fact that libido by no means needs T to live since a good part of it is produced within the brain.
So just because T has hit zero does not mean that the changes are instant. Libido, erectile function, and prostate function seem to be able to survive for quite some time after T has disappeared. For some they seem to never leave completely.
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Thanks for all the input regarding changes to be expected and the timeline for same.
Here's my experience after some 2 1/2 months:
Prostate output is reduced significantly.
Urination is a lot freer and fluid retention is nearly gone - i.e. no need to pee in the middle of the night.
Libido is definitely going, but sexual activity is still possible although it is less pleasurable. (This morning, I penetrated my wife for a few minutes, but it was for her pleasure not mine, as I did not orgasm or want to orgasm.)
I can still think about sex, but only when I want to - which isn't that often.
Erections are not as strong or as easily obtained. Night time erections are mostly absent.
Some hot flashes are happening at random intervals, but are not bothersome. More like excessive sweating than anything else.
However, thinking about surgical castration or being castrated by a woman will cause me to have an erection! (I'm getting hard writing this!):dong:
Here's my experience after some 2 1/2 months:
Prostate output is reduced significantly.
Urination is a lot freer and fluid retention is nearly gone - i.e. no need to pee in the middle of the night.
Libido is definitely going, but sexual activity is still possible although it is less pleasurable. (This morning, I penetrated my wife for a few minutes, but it was for her pleasure not mine, as I did not orgasm or want to orgasm.)
I can still think about sex, but only when I want to - which isn't that often.
Erections are not as strong or as easily obtained. Night time erections are mostly absent.
Some hot flashes are happening at random intervals, but are not bothersome. More like excessive sweating than anything else.
However, thinking about surgical castration or being castrated by a woman will cause me to have an erection! (I'm getting hard writing this!):dong:
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Now a full eunuch as of 05:30 on 13 August 2007.
I clamped the right side again and discovered that it still lacks feeling. So right testicle is definitely dead. Then, while my wife watched, I clamped the left side cords for one minute. Ouch - that hurt! After waiting a couple of minutes, I did it again for a full minute just to make sure. Doing it underwater in our hot tub helps to dampen the pain (please pardon accidental pun).
Now having minor groin pain on left side (similar to pain on right side 2 months ago). Left testicle feels cool to the touch and eplidymus is shrunken. No pulse in left side cord. (Ditto for right side.)
Once both testicles are definitely dead, I'll go see my family doctor for a checkup and see if he notices....
I clamped the right side again and discovered that it still lacks feeling. So right testicle is definitely dead. Then, while my wife watched, I clamped the left side cords for one minute. Ouch - that hurt! After waiting a couple of minutes, I did it again for a full minute just to make sure. Doing it underwater in our hot tub helps to dampen the pain (please pardon accidental pun).
Now having minor groin pain on left side (similar to pain on right side 2 months ago). Left testicle feels cool to the touch and eplidymus is shrunken. No pulse in left side cord. (Ditto for right side.)
Once both testicles are definitely dead, I'll go see my family doctor for a checkup and see if he notices....