I know this isn't quite the right board to post into with this issue but I wouldn't know where to do it instead (alt.eunuchs.questions didnt help either).
I'm looking for a surgeon to perform a urethral relocation on me.
Actually its a small incision into the urethra between the scortum
and the anus. As a result of this urine and sperm would leave my
body through this new hole and I would have to sit while peeing.
Since it is prohibited for any official doc to do this kind of
surgery with no medical reason, I'm looking for somebody who
has enogh experience to be able to perform this on me.
Preferably I'd like to have a high chance of surviving the operation
Since I'm from Germany it would have to be either here or in
Provided you close the end of the penis a urethral relocation would have thefollowing important advantages:
1. It would be a reliable contraceptive measure. You could still bring about conception by collecting the ejaculate and manually inserting it in the appropriate repository.
2. There would be no transmission of hiv.
In fact the penis would become a pleasure organ, as the clitoris already is.
There may be some problems with 'leakage' of urine so you would have to use a panty liner until you learnt full control.
Sitting down to pee is no big deal. Half of the world's population copes with that quite easily several times a day.
I suggest that Chriskay approach a Marie Stope's clinic and ask them about it. They should at least give a sympathetic hearing.
The more I read this post, the more I like the idea of getting this done. Sounds like a very good mod to me. Now if only there were more people into this. Or at least more people capable of doing it.
So, in addition to Europe, how about someone half a world away who can do this? Say near Vancouver or its environs? Wouldn't have to be a surgeon, just someone with some fair skill with this type of procedure.
IEunuch.
(Too bad there's no "School of Male Genital Modification". I'd register there in a heartbeat.)
vesal (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2001 1:36 am
It is a dangerous LIE to tell urethral relocation prevents contamination with HIV
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Yeah, perhaps I overstated the position. However hiv is transmitted by bodily fluids so if there is no interchange of bodily fluids you can enjoy that lovely skin on skin contact in safety.
Last I heard, hiv is not transmitted through unbroken skin.
Of course if your prick is all scabby and oozing pus you are a danger to all concerned. In that case a penectomy would be the socially responsible thing to do.
The problem is that the skin on the penis is actually quite delicate.
Although you may start out with no lesions there is no guarantee that one will not start during sex. Bare-backing is fine provided that you are sure of your partner, in which case urethral relocation is not necessary.
One problem which is much more common with a short urethra is 'urinary tract infection'. This is often caused by careless cleaning after defecation and is very common in elderly ladies. Given that most urethral relocations end up very near the anus this becomes even more of a danger.
HIV can only be caught generally by two main body fuids the first being Blood and the second being male cum so unless there is a serious amount of blood in any other bodily fluid then you are safe so fo all those into water sports that has been proved to be perfectly safe unless the person is passing blood int here urine in which case they shouldn't be participating anyway.
Unless you trust your partner 1000% if you are a gay male you should allways use protection and way for anal penetration.
Well enough of me ranting but i feel that HIV is still misunderstood as a disease and how it can be contracted
This is not entirely true. HIV is present in all bodily fluids, including sweat, spit and urine. All of those happen to contain things that kill it, and so are fairly safe for things like french kissing and watersports, however, spit does sometime contain small amounts of blood (through microscopic cuts on the inside of your mouth) and active HIV has been detected in samples of spit before.
As for HIV being transmitted through unbroken skin, there are actually two cases I'm aware of. One was a very old couple who had not had sex in many years, but the husband (who had had an infected blood transfusion) gave it to his wife through hugging and fondling. A similar case occurred in Italy where a boy caught it from his brother. Both were pre-puberty and the older brother had been infected via transfustion, same as the old people. Both of these occurred in the first half of the nineties; I can't cite a source for sure but I think it was in JAMA. Such cases are exceptionally rare; those are the only two I'm aware of. In both cases doctors theorized that it was transmitted through microscopic cuts in the skin, which everybody has all the time - you get them when you scratch or bump into something.
As for transmitting it through the penis, it is possible, although difficult. Having a FULLY HEALED urethral relocation with a somehow-stopped up penis, and with no lesions or other cuts in place, would probably provide similar protected to an unbreakable condom, with the caveat of the microscopic laceration problem.
Basically, AIDS prevention is not a good reason to do this, but there are a number of other good ones...
richard31uk (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2001 5:52 am
HIV can only be caught generally by two main body fuids the first being Blood and the second being male cum so unless there is a serious amount of blood in any other bodily fluid then you are safe so fo all those into water sports that has been proved to be perfectly safe unless the person is passing blood int here urine in which case they shouldn't be participating anyway.
Unless you trust your partner 1000% if you are a gay male you should allways use protection and way for anal penetration.
Well enough of me ranting but i feel that HIV is still misunderstood as a disease and how it can be contracted ;
This thread is not about HIV, but about a urethral relocation fantasy. The original poster is not entirely serious about it either, because he does know that he can have it done in Asia, where I had mine done. He wants a neighbor to do it.
Other people "want" to be castrated, but when told who can do it (e.g., Spector, who did me, or Barham), there are excuses as to why to why they cannot do it (Oh, can't get plane tickets or time off from work...)
I have patiently tried to locate doctors in Europe who will do the urethral relocation for you, but have drawn a blank. So, chriskay can fantasize about having it done in Europe, perhaps even find someone in Europe to do it, or go to Asia. His choice.
I have been castrated, penectomized, blah, blah, blah. It is easy if you actually want it rather that fantasize about it.
The main point that I am making is that there are folks who say that they would like castrations, penectomies, or whatnot, just for dreaming, and there are those that just do it.
Which one are you?
Kelly
I agree. There are those who only talk about it, and there are those who truely want something done about it. That's about all I agree on.
I want a relocation. I, too, am looking for someone locally. Why? Simple. I cannot travel far, or pay much. At this point, you are probably turning your nose up and dismissing me as only a talker. But I am unemployed, and have trouble affording anything above food, rent, and internet. Cut off any of the three, and I would die.
There is no way for me to save the thousands to travel to Asia. This is not whining. This is fact. If you don't believe me, I'll let you run through the figures for my budget and you tell me where to get the money from. At present, I have no choice but to look for someone local.
I am glad you managed to save money and make it to Asia for your surgery. Congratulations. However do not automatically assume that just because you managed it, everyone can.
For those who can't afford an overseas trip, should we give up our dreams for the moment? Hold off on them until after we've saved the money? Talk about them with no one until then? Or should we ask questions such as his, in the hopes that perhaps there is someone local, that will not cost most of what we make in a year. I know that's my hope when I post questions like that.
IEunuch.
(Who's annual income in Canadian $, might just be enough to get him an extra value meal in the US...)
I am in the same situation as IEunuch where i have a very small income enought to support my daily living. I desperately want to be castrated and if i had the money would be now jetting to America to have it done but i havnt and cant afford it so i to have to search for someone local so i can fulfill my dream,
So please Kelly dont think that just because someone is searching for it to be done localy that it is pure fantasy, I know that there are some that come on here that do fantasise about it but there are others that are genuine but cant afford to travel to have there dreams come true
BossTamsin (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2001 2:53 pm
I want a relocation. I, too, am looking for someone locally. Why? Simple. I cannot travel far, or pay much. At this point, you are probably turning your nose up and dismissing me as only a talker. But I am unemployed, and have trouble affording anything above food, rent, and internet. Cut off any of the three, and I would die.
There is no way for me to save the thousands to travel to Asia. This is not whining. This is fact. If you don't believe me, I'll let you run through the figures for my budget and you tell me where to get the money from. At present, I have no choice but to look for someone local.
For those who can't afford an overseas trip, should we give up our dreams for the moment? Hold off on them until after we've saved the money? Talk about them with no one until then? Or should we ask questions such as his, in the hopes that perhaps there is someone local, that will not cost most of what we make in a year. I know that's my hope when I post questions like that.
Yikes! Very good points. I should be whipped for saying what I said. I truly appologize. Yes, it does cost money, and time, and planning, etc.
I wrote without thinking. For that matter, I should retract what I said and will do so now.
I do think that there are many people here who are in your situation as well.
i just gotr that urethra relocation doone last sunday and up to now no bigger problems maybe i can give u the contact adress of the one who did it.... but i ask him first if he agrees to giving his adress..
It looks as if the HIV angle on this has been dropped, but I just might add that an acquaintance who was involved in AIDS patient care in the past (but not at present) says that a number of people knowledgeable about the disease, think that there is a very low rate of infection when there is no obvious penetrative contact with body fluids. My guess would be, that there are always body fluids involved, but the presence of them may be a subtle type of thing, which could only be detected by careful investigation. In the early days of AIDS treatment, there were several people who cared for patients, and contracted the disease with no obvious contact. I think people are probably more careful now, and this sort of thing doesn't happen any more.
If I recall correctly, some researchers think that the rate of infection for AIDS, with no penetrative contact with body fluids, is similar to the rate of infection for leprosy (Hansen's disease). The rate is very low, but, of course, a small number of people do get leprosy every year.
Hansen's disease is curable. With luck, AIDS will be, as well, within the next twenty years.
With the type of urethral relocation described, you could still wind up with body fluids in areas where they could, in a few cases, get into the body of the person's sex partner.
Provided you close the end of the penis a urethral relocation would have thefollowing important advantages:
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Sitting down to pee is no big deal. Half of the world's population copes with that quite easily several times a day.
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KortpeelCorrection - more than half of the world's population sits to pee and enjoys doing so (not just coping). Females outnumber males and many males also choose to sit as a matter of convenience.
why just settle for a uretheral relocation? being that the urethra in the penis will become un used why not subincise it to benefit from the sensations inside? it wont make any difference to peeing if your urethra is already relocated
I am thinking about having a urethra relocation done on me. I usually always like to sit when peeing and I want to make that mandatory. I also think that this can be a good method to be used as birth control.
I would like to get in contact with people having it done, to hear their experiences and talk about pro´s and con´s.
that is.