mature eunuchs

[inphx (imported)]

many older guys thru aging, medications or medical conditions become eunuchs (testes no longer producing testosterone). they have all the symptoms of guys who have been castrated. most don't realize that they are eunuchs. i am one of those altho i suspected i was an eunuch a year ago. i would love to hear from others who have experienced the same. incidently i wouldn't mind losing my shrunken non functioning balls

[Andrew (imported)]

many older guys thru aging, medications or medical conditions become eunuchs (testes no longer producing testosterone). they have all the symptoms of guys who have been castrated. most don't realize that they are eunuchs. i am one of those altho i suspected i was an eunuch a year ago. i would love to hear from others who have experienced the same. incidently i wouldn't mind losing my shrunken non functioning balls

Welcome. I am one of those those older surgical eunuchs, castrated over 8 months ago. Whether by surgery, drugs, or old age, our common ground is lack of testosterone and what to do about it, if anything. I am one of those who have chosen not to do anything, by which I mean no HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy), either testosterone or estrogen. I'm sure we have other old-age eunuchs here.

[inphx (imported)]

hi andrew,

we have met several times before, in gynecomastia2 list and the yahoo group on andropausal eunuchs which i have started. thanks for responding again. i also am not taking hrt altho i did take some estradiol for two months. but i have not taken anything for six months. interesting though my breasts are still growing. it seems hard to reach out to the other mature eunuchs altho there are many. guess they are afraid to admit they may not full males any longer.

bob

[Andrew (imported)]

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t seems hard to reach out to the other mature eunuchs altho there are many. guess they are afraid to admit they may not full males any longer.

bob

Far more then that, there is still a very real prejudice in our society against those who are different in some way, and this would include eunuchs. Here in the EA, we have support. Outside the EA, you take your chances. My family and friends know I am a eunuch, but I have not come out to my coworkers yet.

[inphx (imported)]

Far more then that, there is still a very real prejudice in our society against those who are different in some way,

i agree society tends to be prejudiced agst those who are different. for a long time i have tried to be different and an individual but not so that i could not be part of the society i lived in. sort at the edge. actually all of us are different in some way. there is a societal notion what is male - stereotype - and most males try to live to that, even into old age. being an eunuch for whatever reason makes that difficult.

[jeo (imported)]

I guess there are lots of them around. But even if they would come out, nobody would even believe in what they say. And mostly take no notice.

In my case, my new doctor (woman of ca 45) completely checked me through. For the blood test, I also wantet testosterone to be checked. And it was. When we looked through the test results, exactly this numbers were gone. And probably not as important as blood sugar levels and triglize-whatever. So why even tell her that I was castrated last september. She would not find the book about eunuch- health anyway.

jeohan

[Andrew (imported)]

In my case, my new doctor (woman of ca 45) completely checked me through. For the blood test, I also wantet testosterone to be checked. And it was. When we looked through the test results, exactly this numbers were gone. And probably not as important as blood sugar levels and triglize-whatever. So why even tell her that I was castrated last september. She would not find the book about eunuch- health anyway.

jeohan

I informed Donna, my physician (Black Female), promptly about my castration. Although there are no books as such on eunuch health issues, our body chemistry is somewhat like that of post-menopausal women. Like them, we are hypogonadal. This has to be taken into consideration.

In fact, I see her tomorrow for another set of fasting blood tests, to include fasting cholesterol, fasting blood sugar, liver profile, and total testosterone and estrogens. Donna does a lot of medical practice with post menopausal women thanks to a retirement home next door that sends her all their patients. So I feel I am in good hands.

[Charlieje (imported)]

I informed my physician before I had it done. At the time he was a very good looking young internist, probably in his late 30's. He strongly recommended that I reconsider, but he'd had a chance to solve my problem (testicular pain) so I told him I was going to do what he couldn't. I asked him if he would continue to treat me after and he said of course! He did, too, and paid a little more emphasis on blood chemistry, bone density, and hormone levels.

I also informed my c-workers. Most of them showed either no emotion, or admiration that I had "the balls" to do it. I have been pleasantly surprised that no one has shown any discrimination. I suspect my neigbors have even forgotten by now.

[madscientist (imported)]

It takes a lot of balls to be a eunuch!

[Jim the Eunique (imported)]

I am a non-surgical eunuch also. I was told that it was just one of those things and happens to some men. Since I found out nuts had quit working and I started TRT in Jan 2001, I have not kept it a secret at home or work. I believe that they had stopped working about 8 years ago and had started to shrink. When I started the TRT they were about half their former size and are now soft, mushy and about the size of a jellybean. I didn't like the 'eunuch calm'. I had no energy and felt as if I was in a fog all the time.

Jim

[inphx (imported)]

taking the testosterone replacement therapy had what effect with you. i am similar to what you say, a non surgical eunuch. my balls have shrunk to about 1/3 of what they were and i doubt they are functioning. this started with me about year and half ago. i am adjusting to the changes.

[Jim the Eunique (imported)]

Hi, inphx,

First, I feel MUCH better. I am not so very tired anymore. The fog has lifted to a great extent. There are still days when I just can't seem to keep a thought going, but it is getting better. And I have lost a lot of weight. Could never understand why I was gaining and nothing I did seemed to stop it or get rid of it. In the last year it just seems to melt off. Realizing that I went for probably five years or more without an erection, the ones that I get now are not all that great. They last about 15 minutes and are not all that firm. I still have not gotten the nocturnal erections back yet. Ejaculation was also gone is now improving, but still difficult and sometimes will not happen at all. The first erections that I got last year were very painful. I was expanding things that hadn't been used in years. As near as I can tell, I have lost about 1/3 of the length I had before and it wasn't all that great either. I am doing 10 grams of AndroGel a day and should get the report on my last blood work tomorrow or next week.

Did that answer your question? or is it too much info?

Jim

[Andrew (imported)]

I am a non-surgical eunuch also. I was told that it was just one of those things and happens to some men. Since I found out nuts had quit working and I started TRT in Jan 2001, I have not kept it a secret at home or work. I believe that they had stopped working about 8 years ago and had started to shrink. When I started the TRT they were about half their former size and are now soft, mushy and about the size of a jellybean. I didn't like the 'eunuch calm'. I had no energy and felt as if I was in a fog all the time.

Jim

Thank you for your comments. I find it interesting as to how different eunuchs react differently to the mental aspects of our condition. Eunuch calm or eunuch fog? I think this may have to do with whether or not you are a eunuch by choice. For those of us castrated to control excessive libidos, the resulting calm is something to be desired. For those like you, eunuchs not by choice, I can undertsand how this may seem to be a fog, especially since energy levels do decline.

[inphx (imported)]

Hi, inphx,

First, I feel MUCH better. I am not so very tired anymore.

i have been an eunuch i gather for a year or so. the loss of male sexual abilities doesn't bother me as prefer becoming asexual at my age (i am older than you). i am growing breasts which has become my most satisfying erogenous area. i am calmer than i was. i do find the loss of energy annoying but hard to differentiate from being an eunuch or just getting older. i am not taking any hrt.

[Jim the Eunique (imported)]

Andrew,

I think there is a difference between the fog and the calm. In my experience, the 'calm' was just that. I did not get excited easily, didn't care if the house repair work was done and really enjoyed my easy chair. The fog was just that to me. In 2000, I started to work in our shop planning department and had to learn to plan and route jobs on a PC. About 15 yrs before, I had done that job, but it was all written out then. I had a very difficult time remembering the steps and procedures. It was a struggle every day. This was a year before I found out about my low T and started TRT. Since the TRT, new concepts do not seem to cause me nearly the problems as before.

Jim

[Andrew (imported)]

Andrew,

I think there is a difference between the fog and the calm. In my experience, the 'calm' was just that. I did not get excited easily, didn't care if the house repair work was done and really enjoyed my easy chair. The fog was just that to me. In 2000, I started to work in our shop planning department and had to learn to plan and route jobs on a PC. About 15 yrs before, I had done that job, but it was all written out then. I had a very difficult time remembering the steps and procedures. It was a struggle every day. This was a year before I found out about my low T and started TRT. Since the TRT, new concepts do not seem to cause me nearly the problems as before.

Jim

Well, I wonder if this is another of those YMWV (Your Milage Will Vary) aspects of eunuch biology? At the moment I am quite calm, but certainly not in a fog. Any other eunuchs reading this have a comment on "calm" and/or "fog"?

[the_real_eunuch (imported)]

I'm not in a fog. My memory and mental abilities seem sharper than ever. Also, I have not noticed any decrease in energy.

[JayBee (imported)]

Hello all .... Been lurking for a long time, but when I saw this thread, I thought that I would jump on board. Just last fall I became quite ill (depression, sweating, hot flashes, weakness, stiff joints & muscles.) Four doctors later, a young female rheumatologist found the trouble. You guessed it! I had joined the ranks of the hypogonadal. Looks like primary failure .... Nobody knows why. I just turned 51 Friday, so I'm not (real) old. Probably some arthritis or possible lupus going on, too. I've been on HRT since November and have improved quite a bit. Wow, the gonads have definitely shrunk. I don't like them this way. They need to be either bigger or gone. However, I'm postponing any decision for the present.

Regards to all.

[inphx (imported)]

i am glad that this thread which i start sparked your interest in replying. as i said initially there are a lot of us out there for various reasons. the major thing is to recogonise the condition. taking trt will restore in part your libido and function but even taking it will cause the testicles not to produce testosterone even to the extent they were. - your gonads are not likely to return to earlier size.

[Jim the Eunique (imported)]

JayBee,

You could very well be me! Felt the same way and went like that for many years. I really do miss my nuts. I have also thought about getting the remain tissue removed, however, I think time will take care of that for me.

Jim

[Jim the Eunique (imported)]

Andrew,

I figure that my nuts had shut down five years or so before things got foggy. I don't remember having problems with concentration prior to say 1998 - 99. That might be period when they had quit working completely. It could be that my T level of 97 that I had in Jan of 2001 was the result of T produced by other endocrine glands.

Jim

[JayBee (imported)]

I'm also sure now that my hormones were low for perhaps 2 - 3 years. Just kept getting more and more tired. If I may address the fog issue .... To me it was more an inability to concentrate and lack of motivation. It took every last bit of will power I had to finally get a product into production at my work place. I then took a month of medical leave to get myself functional again. The T replacement has my brain working again, although not all the physical things have totally reversed. It may take a while yet.