Natural Eunuch Sleep Aid(s)

[Hash (imported)]

I haven't been sleeping very well as of late, I think the time change messed me up some, but even before then I was not sleeping through the night. I realize that castration has caused some of this problem and I know that as people age, they don't sleep as well as they once did. I've heard all of the Ambien horror stories and hesitate to ask my doctor for a prescription of that, plus I'd like to stay with something more natural if possible. I've used the over the counter stuff, but they dry out my sinuses and cause morning nose bleeds. I've read about "L-Tryptophan" and wonder if anyone has tried it? Little help please!

[jab (imported)]

I've read about "L-Tryptophan" and wonder if anyone has tried it? Little help please!

I think it's made with an enzyme that's in turkey, in small doses.

It makes you sleepy. Over-the-counter for the longest time in health food stores in the US (might still be) and works very well, with no lingering effects the next morning.

If you have it in your suitcase and travel to France, they'll take it away.

Go figure.

[kristoff]

I use Ambien frequently. Works fine. Natural? Try Malatonin

[ramses (imported)]

I use over the counter generic doxalymine succinate (1/2 tablet) and it works well for me. I try to take it one hour or 45 minutes before bed to avoid a hangover in the morning and it seems to work fine like that. Asleep in minutes!

Most of the over the counter sleep aids have generic benadryl

(Diphenhydramine hydrochloride ) which I don't think works as good.

"Doxylamine is a member of the ethanolamine class of antihistamines and has anti-allergy power superior to almost every other antihistamine on the market, with the exception of diphenhydramine (Benadryl).[2] It is also the most effective over-the-counter sedative available in the United States,[2] and is more sedating than some prescription hypnotics. In a study, it was found that doxylamine succinate is possibly more effective than the barbiturate phenobarbital for use as a sedative.[2] For this reason, doxylamine has sometimes been used off label in a manner similar to diphenhydramine for the reduction of anxiety symptoms."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxylamine

[Solaris (imported)]

Since 1971, I have been taking ethinylestradiol, on and off, and I have never slept right through the night since that time. You might think that I would, at least, have slept properly once in all of that time, even if only by accident, but such has not been the case. I have never taken testosterone blockers, I do not want to take testosterone, and for much of the time, I have not taken antidepressants or any other medication.

I have to urinate frequently during the night as well as the daytime, which disturbs my rest. After having a number of tests, I have discovered that my bladder is exceptionally small, which causes me problems, and I am unable to tolerate the tablets that my doctor gave me to try to relieve the urinary situation.

I also feel fairly sure that another reason for my atrocious sleep patterns, is hormonal, but I am unable, also, to react well to the tablets that my doctor prescribed to try and correct these patterns. These problems cause me mental and physical weariness as well as social difficulties, confusion, and a lack of settlement.

My doctor and I have both tried to deal with these situations but are now at a loss as to know what further to do, and so it has seemed that I would have to live with this serious inconvenience for the rest of my life. I do not have any trouble in getting to sleep in the first place, but my difficulty lies in remaining asleep.

Do the L-Tryptophan, Ambien, Malatonin, or Doxalymine Succinate have brand names that would be known and available over the counter within the United Kingdom?

I would appreciate any guidance that anyone feels able to give me in this matter, so that I would at least know that I had tried, yet again, to help myself.

With Thanks,

Solaris.

[ramses (imported)]

Doxalymine Succinate is in Nyquil and Unisom (but not the gel caps). It's the stuff in Nyquil that knocks you on your ass... Just look in the sleep aid section of the pharmacy and read the ingredients. MOST will have dipenhydramine HCL which is generic Benadryl which isn't as effective.

[Solaris (imported)]

Thanks for your reply to my enquiry, ramses, and I will search for the Doxalymine Succinate as soon as possible, and hope that it does me some good.

[streetglide (imported)]

I thought my sleep problems were just stress!!! I use Melatonin...cheap, from Wal-Mart. It works for me! And it's so cheap, if it doesn't, throw it away!

[smoothie36 (imported)]

Melatonin helps you get to sleep, but not keep you asleep.

[twaddler (imported)]

I used to use generic Tylenol (I hate typing acetawhatthefuckaphin) to help me sleep. It worked very well.

[Hash (imported)]

Thanks Ramses, I'll try it. Hash

[Solaris (imported)]

I noticed that the start of my long-term sleep disorder, coincided with the emergence of the dark daydreams and sense of paranoia that were a part of my daily life when I was not taking antidepressants. I understand that the act of dreaming cleanses the system of all of the toxic thoughts that build up throughout the day. So if I am not aware of having dreams, except only rarely, I would suppose that this lack of release would naturally result in the kind of psychological discomfort that can be disabling and traumatic. It tends to indicate that my sleep does not often reach the level of Rapid Eye Movement that creates dreams.

I am wondering whether anyone else has noticed a link between the inability to dream, and a mental distress during their conscious life.

[helsinki (imported)]

I've noticed that cyproterone acetate and ethinylestradiol affect my sleep patterns.

When I was on cyproterone acetate (52 mg per day) and ethinylestradiol (35 ug per day), I felt sleepy all the time. This made it difficult for me to drive for long distances, and I found myself needing to sleep in the afternoon as well as night-time.

After orchiectomy, I gave up cyproterone acetate and raised my ethinylestradiol to 50 ug per day. My sleep requirements returned to normal, but I found myself developing sleep state misperception, i.e. when I woke up in the morning I would find myself believing that I had not slept at all. After a couple of months, I got used to this, and I am now satisfied with my sleep patterns. I guess that knowing about sleep state misperception in advance of actually experiencing it helped me to adjust to it.

Also, I have noticed that the processes of falling asleep and waking up seem more gradual now than they did before I started hormones. This means that I am more conscious of having vivid dreams as I fall asleep and wake up.

[moi621 (imported)]

Having had life long sleep problems, I try to role with it.

As a kid I needed excessive sleep.

At 60 it changed to where my, "sleep switch" does not switch.

I can be sleepy, tired, yawning, go to bed, and hour later - awake and gotta get up.

Sometimes Melatonin works although I take at least 15 mg. The studies were done with much, much more.

Rarely, Halcion, Valium, type med work even taken in doses as to make me walk like a drunk. The sleep switch does not switch.

Requip - the restless legs medicine, 1 mg sometimes work.

The "anti-histamines" do not work on me. Nyquil, Benedryl, or heavier

Phenergan. So heavy it is almost - Thorazine.

My one belief is not to take anything regularly and rarely beyond 2 nights in a row.

It is my belief the medicine I do need to, Switch my "Sleep Switch", the barbiturates, are no longer available anywhere in the world. Go ahead - please prove me wrong. I have asked travelers to far lands. Not even in Thailand. So if Michael Jackson, oh it has to come back to Michael had similar sleep problems, and no barbiturates available - he bought his anesthesia. Makes sense to me.

Among my natural favorites is, a full belly of meat and potatoes topped off with a bowl of vanilla Ice Cream. Vanilla because of aroma therapy.

Second best are, a cup of warm milk with a few drops of vanilla and sweetened. Cookies. Nuts. Cheese. Hearty Midnight Snack. More Vanilla Ice Cream.

Having lost 25 pounds on Atkins, <bow> <bow> I discovered the counting carbs Ice Cream, Although satisfactory for an Ice Cream fix,,, did not induce sleep as full strength, Vanilla Ice Cream.

And mostly I get up, over and over, make early AM posts here. Make mid AM posts here and finally crash at sunrise and sleep my best sleep to noon. So I try to live with it although it is frustrating beyond 2 AM.

It helps to be retired.

Opps this started as natural Eunuch sleep aids.

And whether Eunuchism is a sleep aid.

I seem to remember in decades, and decades ago - A Sweet Smelling Desirable Lady Who Would Do The Big, "IT" with Moi, yielded great sleep too. Wish I could get an Rx for it, I mean her.

[Riverwind (imported)]

I might suggest something different,

Have you had a sleep study?

I have always had bad sleep but sense I got the C-Pap machine I go to sleep in minutes and sleep a solid 7 to 8 hours.

Just a thought,

Do you snore? stop breathing? don't get into REM sleep, Only a sleep study will be able to tell you this.

River