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St. Bernadines Hospital transferred mom to Waterman Convelesant home this afternoon for two weeks of intrevienous meds for her speedy pneumonia recovery.

I saw her at 6:00pm tonight and she was in good spirits. The staff there is adequate and seemed to fuss over her

As for the homefront, I'm still battling the lil roach bastards with spray and boric acid. Score so far: Mac 5 Roaches 10.

I did kill a few thousand though.

If only Rupert, the roach eating cat, lived nearby...*sigh*

A friend of mine in Kansas has an Iguana Pet. I think they LOVE bugs so check out the Pet store. Pet Lizards ?? N3RF

Well I reckon that you need to go with the tent if that is all the do-gooder social workers willl accept. It would not be worth the time that any battle would take and tenting is cheaper than lawyers fees. Once clear keep it clear with poison baits. If you need a cat get a Siamese or Burmese. They are pretty efffective hunters and make good company. Also remember that at the first sign of any mouse do-do put out the poison baits. Much more effective than traps!!!

Good luck!!!

Francis

How about a Pet Snake?? They love to hunt Bugs. What kind of snake ?? Not a BOa I am sure. Or borrow one from the Pet store. Ask about their habits and likes for Bugs. Bugs are supposed to be very Nutritios. I checked on Gecko's and they are all kinds. They have special foods and look up Gecko Pets on Google. Lots of information on their likes and dislikes. N3RF

if you have vermon problems poision bait is the best bet i have worked with pest control and good poision is the best. i wish you all the best in you and hope you get everything sorted out

n3rf (imported) wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:03 am How about a Pet Snake?? They love to hunt Bugs. What kind of snake ?? Not a BOa I am sure. Or borrow one from the Pet store. Ask about their habits and likes for Bugs. Bugs are supposed to be very Nutritios. I checked on Gecko's and they are all kinds. They have special foods and look up Gecko Pets on Google. Lots of information on their likes and dislikes. N3RF

If Wolf's figures are anywhere near accurate -- I killed thousands -- a snake, lizard, or cat that might eat a dozen or so a day isn't going to do much good. A thorough dosing of poison is about the only thing that will work. Hell, that many roaches would probably eat the lizard.

Summary:

* Normal spraying is out...doesn't kill enough of the lil bastards

* There way to many for any snake or Iguana

* Poison would work except for the fact I have one black cat and two German shepherds.

* Tenting might work but the cosst is too prohibitive.

* I could move out but the lil bastards might like that and that's too expensive.

* I could expose the inside of the house to 600 rads of radiation from a Neutron bomb but I'd lose my pets...AND, according to science buddies of mine, those crawly lil bastards would survive the 600 rads.

What to do? No fracken idea.

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Got my usual email from NaturalResources.net with one small

comment I am passing on to You:

""

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Learn more about FoodSupplements like PS for Your mother. She is still quite Young

n3rf (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:47 am . My wife was born in 23 and she is

a PISTOL and sharp as a TACK.

Good luck with catching all the Bugs. I searched on Goggle a week ago about Traps and one appeared very effective and low cost. I think I passed it on to You at the time. N3RF

What is "PS"?

Dear Christina - here it is :

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Let us all know what it is and how it works. Must be great stuff for us all and for Mac's MOM... N3RF

Mom comes home from the nursing home in a few days (hopefully) assuming County social services don't stick their noses in again.

Good news.. Mom has agreed to take out a loan to cover the following:

* Cutting the antenna off the house (so house can be tented)

* Tenting the house (3 day process)

* Motel for her and I during the three days of the tenting.

* Boarding two dogs and a cat for three days.

Dear Wolfie, I just got a small booklet from a vitamins store -

very well laid out - www.swansonvitamins.com at 1-800-437-4148 and I was thinking about Your MOM and the needed Health-Food-Supplement-Program you can get her on.

Get their cathalog and study all their explanations.

I tell eveyone that Drugs are not Food, Also I say that Food and Trace elements and supplements can heal a persons body better than Drugs . DrDay explains this so well on her VHS tape that I am still listening to from my VCR when I get a chance. So get with it and with a Brain-version of HERvery own Nutrition Program , You and she will enjoy the Years You have together much more. Regards JSm N3RF

PRACTICAL DEFINITION OF CATCH-22:

I spoke with the social worker at the nursing home where mom is at now. She expressed concern over releasing her due to the current cockroach infestation our house is experiencing.

I explained to the social worker that mom had FINALLY agreed to get a loan to get the house de-bugged. I told her when mom comes home, she'd apply for a $2,000 loan to get everything done so we can be bug-free.

Hence lies the problem. The social worker agreed the loan was a great idea BUT said, "you mom can't return home until it's all over with." I tried to tell the social worker, "I had no income and mom has to apply for the loan herself and I doubt that a loan officer is going to visit a nursing home for her to apply for the loan.

The social workers reply was, "Until your house is bug-free, your mother can't go home."

Yup, that's a real Catch-22.

Gawd, I hate social workers.

What was that old line....."take out all the insurance salesmen, telemarketers, politicians, teachers, labor leaders and shoot them down like dogs." Feel free to add social workers on that list too.

P.S. I'm an ex-teacher.

Perhaps if you explain the situation to the loan officer they might be sympathetic to your cause and make the visit to see her?

It might be possible to get the papers to your mother at the nursing home where she can sign them with the staff as witnesses or possibly even find a notary on site to witness the signature. --FLO--

MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:24 am PRACTICAL DEFINITION OF CATCH-22:

What was that old line....."take out all the insurance salesmen, telemarketers, politicians, teachers, labor leaders and shoot them down like dogs." Feel free to add social workers on that list too.

P.S. I'm an ex-teacher.

Social workers and government bureaucrats should definitely be at the top of the list. I was a foster parent to three of my grandchildren for a while, and I grew to hate the idiots I had to deal with.

I talked to a loan officer at a national mortgage company, told him my problem and asked for his advice. His advice was as follows:

1. He said don't use his company or any other loan company as the minimum they will loan out, via a mortgage, is $20,000-$25,000. We don't need THAT much.

2. He suggested I call the city and county on Monday to see if there are any loan, grant or voucher programs to aid seniors in need of roach infestation.

3. He also suggested going to my mom's bank on Monday, telling their loan officer our problem in full and seeing if mom/I could get a temporary $2,000 line of credit and or a temporary $2,000 credit card to cover the expenees to get mom back in her own home sooner. I have an apppointment with her bank officer in Redlands on Monday.

I'll have a more appreciaiative/practical outlook on life by next Monday or Tuesday

MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:46 am I talked to a loan officer at a national mortgage company, told him my problem and asked for his advice. His advice was as follows:

1. He said don't use his company or any other loan company as the minimum they will loan out, via a mortgage, is $20,000-$25,000. We don't need THAT much.

2. He suggested I call the city and county on Monday to see if there are any loan, grant or voucher programs to aid seniors in need of roach infestation.

3. He also suggested going to my mom's bank on Monday, telling their loan officer our problem in full and seeing if mom/I could get a temporary $2,000 line of credit and or a temporary $2,000 credit card to cover the expenees to get mom back in her own home sooner. I have an apppointment with her bank officer in Redlands on Monday.

I'll have a more appreciaiative/practical outlook on life by next Monday or Tuesday

Meeantime, take that social worker into a closet and punch her out. Do the world and yourself a favor.

MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:46 am I talked to a loan officer at a national mortgage company, told him my problem and asked for his advice. His advice was as follows:

1. He said don't use his company or any other loan company as the minimum they will loan out, via a mortgage, is $20,000-$25,000. We don't need THAT much.

2. He suggested I call the city and county on Monday to see if there are any loan, grant or voucher programs to aid seniors in need of roach infestation.

3. He also suggested going to my mom's bank on Monday, telling their loan officer our problem in full and seeing if mom/I could get a temporary $2,000 line of credit and or a temporary $2,000 credit card to cover the expenees to get mom back in her own home sooner. I have an apppointment with her bank officer in Redlands on Monday.

I'll have a more appreciaiative/practical outlook on life by next Monday or Tuesday

Mackie,

You could look at the loan very carefully and make sure that there is no penalty for early re-payment and take it. Then after you have done what you need to do to the house, take the remainder of the proceeds of the loan and apply that money back to the principal of the loan.

Or, alternately, you could take the loan out. Generally, home mortgages are at a low rate of interest, 5-6%. You can get much better returns than that from investments Dean - Hilliard, A. G. Edwards, Morgan Stanley, Charles Schwab and the like, and make investment returns in the 9 - 10% range. Take out the loan and invest what you do not need. Then, the 4-5% that you would get on the money after you paid would be profit. Taking that to make the mortgage payment should leave you with 2-3% of the principal per month as permanent income.

This could run the life of the mortgage and after the mortgage is paid off you should still have money in the investment equal to the proceeds of the mortgage.

You can make your home generate income for you in this manner.

You students out there reading this, it works with student loans, also...

Mackie, whatever you do stay the hell away from credit cards. Some now have interst rates in excess of 20%...

Well...I didn't get to the bank on Monday as I just recovered (mostly) from a 37-hour migraine. I spoke with the loan officer today. I have a simple, two page app to fill out. Only tricky part is finding a copy of mom's income around her cluttered filing cabinets. The bank wants one of two things: (1) copy of her tax forms last two years...hmmm she said she didn't file...oh well. (2) copy of her monthy social security and retirement income which is here... somewhere .

Oh, the bank said I would be applying for a $5,000 Line of Credit. $5,000 seems to be the minimum amount one can go after.

That the news.

MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:14 am Well...I didn't get to the bank on Monday as I just recovered (mostly) from a 37-hour migraine. I spoke with the loan officer today. I have a simple, two page app to fill out. Only tricky part is finding a copy of mom's income around her cluttered filing cabinets. The bank wants one of two things: (1) copy of her tax forms last two years...hmmm she said she didn't file...oh well. (2) copy of her monthy social security and retirement income which is here... somewhere .

Oh, the bank said I would be applying for a $5,000 Line of Credit. $5,000 seems to be the minimum amount one can go after.

That the news.

Well, it is a line of credit. That means that amount is available. That doesn't mean you have to draw it all out. It is essentially treated as a checking account with a finite drawing limit, which you do have to make payments on. It is secured as a second or lesser mortgage usually.

"it's just a little pinch. It won't hurt a bit."

The above is what most of the guys in the EA chatroom believe, or say they believe. Maybe if they saw the good sister with those clippers and her sinister grin........Naw, they'd still think it's a thrill.

MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:58 pm "it's just a little pinch. It won't hurt a bit."

The above is what most of the guys in the EA chatroom believe, or say they believe. Maybe if they saw the good sister with those clippers and her sinister grin........Naw, they'd still think it's a thrill.

Your report sounds good.

And McdeWolf - chap - You seem to IGNORE - the low cost approaches - there are several and very efficient and does the Roaches go BIBI very efficiently./ I would go that road and when You tell the Social snoop about the method You have selected and the number of dead roached You have exterminated - on a very low cost way - she or he will be impressed by the good sense that You show and bring MOM home to a clean house that has not NOT been polluted with CHEMICALS more that what is in the Box that captures them. The less talk about Bugs, the better. They are NICE LITTLE CRITTERS if You know them better - but I don't say You have to get marriedtothem - Search GOOGLE about roach traps and check the Dollar store and get those traps for a dollar. They do work very well. Please report when You captured the first POUNT so we know that You are making PROGRESS. N3RF

N3rf

I've tried bombs, sprays, borax, traps, powders...There seem to be more now than when I first started fighting them.

I have two choices left. Move or tenting the house....and I can't afford to move.

If the roaches were only ten times bigger I could stomp them.