One Day in the Life of a Wolf - Memorial 7-25-20

[MacTheWolf (imported)]

Friday morning I told mom I was going to the Humane Society to get a rabies shot for my white german sheppard. The trip took longer than I thought and mom, of course, panicked. She frantically called 911 saying, "my son is missing, my dog is missing, and I'm all alone and scared." When I arrived home, the police were awaiting me. They chewed me out because my house was cluttered, messy and overrun by mice. Office on aging showed up ten minutes later followed by Adult Protective Services.

I was given a choice: allow them to take mom to a hospital for 10 days to two weeks or go to jail for charges of "elder abuse." I accepted the former and they took mom away. Cops and A.P.S. said mom could return when house is both uncluttered and mouse free.

Uncluttering and general house cleaning is the easy part. I plan to spend one day cleaning each room. Mice wise, I'll need to have the house tented and fumigated. During fumigation, dogs can stay in back yard but cat and I need to find a cheap motel for 24 hours.

Today I cleaned her room and discovered all her blood pressure meds, nerve meds and sleeping pills were missing. I panicked. When I visited mom at psych ward tonight, head nurse reassured me they had all of mom's meds. Would have been nice if they had told me as they were taking mom's meds from the house.

Anyone know how much they'll charge to tent a house?

[sag111 (imported)]

WOW i am sorry to here that and no i am not sure how much that will cost but i bet it isent cheep.All i can say is i am so sorry you have to go through this

[SplitDik (imported)]

That is both a sad and somehow funny account Wolfie.

I'm sure you were not abusing an elder, but perhaps your ability to keep up the housework and to properly monitor her (obviously) paranoic tendencies, does warrant considering getting her some trained caretaker.

However, I assume you are not overly wealthy, so unfortunately I'm not sure what options you have that would actually be better for her. The most important thing is getting some sort of daily care worker.

[Riverwind (imported)]

Mackie,

First, fire the cat as he is not doing his job. :kittygray

Next, spend 30 bucks and get mouse traps and fly paper.

Bate traps with peanut butter.

In a week or so you will have gotten rid of most of those little bastards.

So, clean house, set traps, wait for APS to return and show them the dead mices and your traps laid out in the house. :redbounce

Ask how your mother is doing, or .

Ask them if there is anything else you can do, be nice. http://www.eunuch.org/Public/Images/ea1/E8.gif and remember to say

Go get some beer, order out a pizza, and party.

Any time my friend, always glad to help.

River

[Slammr (imported)]

Years ago, when I was first married, we lived in a small two bedroom house. That we had mice soon became obvious. While we were eating, one kept poking his head out from under the refrigerator. I had a pellet gun pistol and blew his head off from my seat at the dining room table. Of course, I couldn't hope to wipe out all the mice that way, so I bought two traps, setting them under the sink in the kitchen before going to bed.

I'd just settled down to sleep when I heard, "snap, snap."

Two mice were in the two traps. I emptied them out, reset them, and went back to bed.

"Snap, snap."

Two more mice, reset the traps, back to bed. "Snap, snap."

Sixteen mice later, I finally got to sleep. I bought poison the next day. It worked better than the traps, and I didn't have to dispose of the dead mice. Since then, I've found that poison seems to be more effective than traps -- if you don't mind having your walls full of dead mice, that is.

[MacTheWolf (imported)]

In the recent past I have purchased both snap and glue traps. They work fine if you have around a dozen of the lil varmits. In my case, I believe there is the annual mouse convention meeting here.

Besides, I was told (ordered) by the city, to get the house fumigated, hence tented or else. The else being mom would not return. And since she wouldn't last two months in a rest home, tenting seems to be my only remaining option. Tuesday I find out the COST:P

I'll update as soon as I discover how many of my arms and legs they want.

[A-1 (imported)]

Years ago, when I was first married, we lived in a small two bedroom house. That we had mice soon became obvious. While we were eating, one kept poking his head out from under the refrigerator. I had a pellet gun pistol and blew his head off from my seat at the dining room table. Of course, I couldn't hope to wipe out all the mice that way, so I bought two traps, setting them under the sink in the kitchen before going to bed.

I'd just settled down to sleep when I heard, "snap, snap."

Two mice were in the two traps. I emptied them out, reset them, and went back to bed.

"Snap, snap."

Two more mice, reset the traps, back to bed. "Snap, snap."

Sixteen mice later, I finally got to sleep. I bought poison the next day. It worked better than the traps, and I didn't have to dispose of the dead mice. Since then, I've found that poison seems to be more effective than traps -- if you don't mind having your walls full of dead mice, that is.

Mackie,

BE careful. Poisoned mice that crawl into a ventilator and die stink pretty bad for several weeks.

Not to be too nosy, but you may need the services of a good attorney before all of this is over. If you mother is that confused, she may have Alzheimer's Disease and if so she should not be left alone.

Keep in mind that if she has a deteriorating mental disease that she is going to get a lot worse, and that at some point, it will be impossible to care for her by yourself. You may have already reached that point.

You may not get to bring her back home, according to what the hospital stay yields in information about her condition. If you have siblings be ready for them to be involved.

You are right, these matters are very, very messy.

Good luck and keep us informed about how you are doing through all of this. I know that it is hard for you.

A-1

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

Sorry to hear you have so many troubles all at once. I'm afraid I can't offer advice about tenting a house - I don't think that they do that in this part of the country. --FLO--

[Blaise (imported)]

Complicated. I am sorry you are enduring this trouble. You are in my prayers.

[MacTheWolf (imported)]

My next steps are as follows:

1. Wait for mom's doctor to call and tell me if she can sign a contract.

2. Have mom sign Power of Attorney for me with notary as witness.

3. Obtain loan of $5,000 - 10,000

If all the above goes through without snags, here is loan money spending.

* Cutting off TV antennae (never used it anyways)

* Tenting the house for vermin, a three day job. $1,400 +

* Board/Care pets $144

* Motel for me thre days

* New bedroom window (rat entrace point)

* New outside back door (mouse entrance point)

* Trim for inside back door

* Trim Palm Tree (city ordered it done)

* Buy lawnmower

* Buy vacumn cleaner

* Brake Job on mom's car

* Back utility bills

Fun huh

[n3rf (imported)]

Dear MacDeWolf,

No one can force You to tent and poison the House, when You can go to the Pond and "rent a cat" which will take care of any vermin. Talk to the "humane" people and find out if I am right. The "rent-a -Cat - catfood" is all You have to spend.

Talk also to a lawyer friend who is an Eunuch (prefered) about Your legal rights on this score. I didn't spend so I spent a day or two in jail, but the circumstances was slightly different. What is the specie of mouse anyway and what are their "habits" in eating the House or what. Know everything about these and how not to Yild to "spending" habits"of the rich" (Low Cost technology is the thing) and to be HEALTHY. Who knows most about the Poison ?? Ignorance is no bliss. Take care and be smart..er. Johan-in-Washington, N3RF

[Blaise (imported)]

My next steps are as follows:

1. Wait for mom's doctor to call and tell me if she can sign a contract.

2. Have mom sign Power of Attorney for me with notary as witness.

3. Obtain loan of $5,000 - 10,000

If all the above goes through without snags, here is loan money spending.

* Cutting off TV antennae (never used it anyways)

* Tenting the house for vermin, a three day job. $1,400 +

* Board/Care pets $144

* Motel for me thre days

* New bedroom window (rat entrace point)

* New outside back door (mouse entrance point)

* Trim for inside back door

* Trim Palm Tree (city ordered it done)

* Buy lawnmower

* Buy vacumn cleaner

* Brake Job on mom's car

* Back utility bills

Fun huh

Gosh, what a nightmare.

[MacTheWolf (imported)]

The exterminator did give me two options:

1. Tent...takes three days and costs $1,400

2. Spray and set traps...cost $700... but takes 6-9 weeks....Mom won't live in confinement that long>

So, I tent

[A-1 (imported)]

The exterminator did give me two options:

1. Tent...takes three days and costs $1,400

2. Spray and set traps...cost $700... but takes 6-9 weeks....Mom won't live in confinement that long>

So, I tent

Mackie,

A mortgage loan on the house will require an apprasial. It will take some time.

You had better see an attorney or a social worker or both before you spend a lot of money. I am telling you that your mother might be institutionalized.... Especially if they are telling you that she may not be competent.

Try a legal aid network, your local Bar Association will be able to recommend to you where you might be able to get legal help or advice.

Mackie, don't trust 'em. Find an attorney who deals with this kind of thing. The government social workers will lie, lie, lie. They see it as protecting your mother.

Mackie, please listen...

A-1

[MacTheWolf (imported)]

I hear ya A-1 and I appreciate your response, interest and concern

I need to borrow because my mom's income is only $1,000 a month...and that's counting her military retirement and social security. My house has to be rodent free...city ordinance. $1,400 is the best price I've found. Most pest agencies don't tent for rodents. Those that do charge from $1,400 to $1,900.

My total income is $152.00 a month in food stamps.

I know mom has Dementia and likely Alzheimers. Months after her stroke, she would forget who I was once or twice a month. Nowadays, she forgets who I am several times a day

I'll check into legal aid. I'm also looking in to getting a Conservatetship (sp) over her so I can make her medical decisions too.

Thanks for the input. This is all new to me.

P.S. being an unpaid caregiver 24/7 for 2 years now does suck but I'd rather do it several more years than have mom in a senior home when she'd be dead in a few months. She needs to be at home with her possessions, cat, dogs and her only offspring, moi.

[n3rf (imported)]

Yes - and how many MOUSE are we really talking about , and are they Field Mouse or what kind are they ?? Some of these MICE are very HARMLESS and some might not be but please make sure You know what is the "damage" by these small PETS, and NOT an IMAGINED number of MONSTERS going around amd around . The sceene I see is mainly ony of Psyke Ware Fare by some individual of the Government or by their Policy to make an issue when there is not a real one.

Set demand that You will not consider any expenditures until Your Mother is home SAFE and things are back to normal, without outside interferense, and then Get the Cat. Don't spend ANY money but Fix the Car and the Brakes. Your Mother will be fine if the "system" stops bugging her etc. Did You like any of what I said ?? Love N3RF

[Riverwind (imported)]

I think what MacWolf is saying is hes running out of time. This has to be done quick.

Mac, do you have control over your moms money, house, etc?

I wish you the best my friend as this is just not right.

Protective services will protect your mother because they know whats best, and your right, you need to get her home asap. Get leagle help now

River

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

What a horrible situation. I'd be absolutly frantic. I wish you well. It can be difficult dealing with officials who think that their job is to make the world comform to a set of rules rather than to improve the life of the people involved. --FLO--

[n3rf (imported)]

Dear Wolf,

Maybe one Room in the House can be classified SECURE for Your mother so she can return without further Excuses etc. One room where is is safe from "MICE" and so forth.

Take that as a First step. Then the Traps and the 6 weeks or whatever time it takes for the Rest of the House. Don't spend ANY money except fixing the Brakes and the Usual Bills. Mouse traps can be had cheap at the dollar store or the harwar store and the spray if You need somw You can get at the same places. Take care of Her first and ignore all smart asses. You must. n3rf

[MacTheWolf (imported)]

The Police and Adult Protective Services have assured me on two points:

1. Mom CANNOT return home as long as house has mouse infestation.

2. If I bring her home from hospital before the mouse population has been eradacated, they will charge me with Elder Abuse and sent me to jail.

[JesusA]

There is NO urban house in an older neighborhood like yours without mice. How practical are they? You need to ask about threshhhold number of rodents. Certainly you can't have them dancing in the middle of the floor, but one or two in the basement would be hard to get rid of.

[n3rf (imported)]

No they wont. It is a "common-lowdown" scare tactic. Ask Yourself who in Your area of in your recent times have been charged this way, because of a mouse or two ???

Ask Yourself, how many Big Rats or tiny Mousis are running around the House right now?? Give me a number 1 - 10 - 100 -- etc. How many cats will it take to scare all the Mousis out and migrate to the next town.

Have You starved or beaten Your dear mother ?? make a list on HOW You "mistreated" her. The list will have nothing to show - am I right. You have taken good care of her so what does this tell You ?? - Just a scare tacktic.

Who would be the big guy in the Prosecutors office to handle Your Prosecution of "elder abuse" ?? Ask Yourself or someone, who did or how many cases like this has he "eer" done and how many on this charge did he put in jail???

Child abuse etc is a much more "popular" thng in our "twisted society of legal "shovanists". So start counting. The number is more than likely a BIG ZERO.

So clean up one ROOM with her Bed and Her Things and make it Mouse Proof. Have this fact certified by Priest or Judge or a trusted friend - anyone- on paper and have it notarized..

Also make a little research on the Mouse Culture You want to make war with. Know Your enemy or sign a Peace-Treaty. Mouse only runs trough Kitchen when Your are not there - just any peace treaty is better that a war.. I would think.

Make an observation and find out who was counting mice and his own background in finding moucis. Maybe Your house was his first one. Ask to see reports that he has written where the mouse population was described. Wonder about its accuracy . Was any mouse actually a Rat or a Racoon or some such ??? Is he a Biology expert whose Expert testimony has been used in Court under Oath.

When the friends in our friendloy Government attacked my Fleet, the inspector swore that all my stuff, my library and tools etc was all DEBREE. He got away with the lie.

So set up the defense plan, ask Your mother if she wants to go back home to her cleaned up room, That is all that matters. Make it happen now. n3rf

[n3rf (imported)]

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they will charge me with Elder Abuse and sent me to jail.

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No they will not get away with it. It is only an Empty scare tactic./ N3RF

[BudleyBare (imported)]

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No they will not get away with it. It is only an Empty scare tactic....

Let's hope so, but in the USA I no longer would be willing to take such a bet. Almost all levels of government in the USA have gotten way out of control, but then I digress, and don't like to think about bad things.

[n3rf (imported)]

Well - digressing - not sure how negative it is but getting MOTHER home in a "secure room" of her own seems to be the good news - regardless of threats etc before she gets de-classified further.

I still have no clue of the number and the types of the "mice" or the "rats of any. I got to the Pet shop and they sell a number of nice little mousis and stuff they can use to play and so forth. Maybe all Mac needs is a Cage for the l little critters so he can keep them as House Pets. I still like the "Ultra Low Cost" approach regardless for the push for the Opposite/ Love Johan-in-Washington, N3RF, Chm SRL and LSRF