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Re: How old were you when you understood what was castration ?

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2026 4:06 pm
by WheelyFixed
Not sure just when, I knew fairly early about pets getting 'fixed' but wasn't sure what that actually meant... In Junior High I found a copy of Heinlein's "Farnham's Freehold" in the school library. Many characters in the book are 'tempered' and our main hero and his son get set up for 'tempering' early on but are spared (the son is done later in the book) EXACTLY what 'tempering' entailed wasn't quite spelled out, but it was pretty strongly implied by the descriptions... (BTW it was explicitly mentioned as being done at different ages, from infant to adulthood depending on their master's desires, and we met at least one character done at age 8...)

I won't go into the book further, beyond saying it is worth the read....

I actually found the book very 'disturbing' because I felt it wasn't 'normal' that I was excited by the concept, and actually got rid of my copy, it's the only Heinlein I don't own at this time... Later I encountered plenty of other literary descriptions, and exposure to animal castrations but was never enough of a history buff to realize how common it was historically beyond harem guards and opera singers....

It wasn't until a few years ago that I encountered a discussion of voluntary eunuchs online, and found it clicked enough for me to investigate further, which fairly rapidly got me to EAv2, and as they say "The rest is history" :ugeek:

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Re: How old were you when you understood what was castration ?

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2026 3:33 am
by Bibiballs
WheelyFixed wrote: Sun Jan 11, 2026 4:06 pm I actually found the book very 'disturbing' because I felt it wasn't 'normal' that I was excited by the concept, and actually got rid of my copy, it's the only Heinlein I don't own at this time...
I don't know about this book. It doesn't seem to be published in my country.
Were you excited because of fear by reading such a scary story ? Or were you a little bit aroused by the thought of you could be castrated ?

Re: How old were you when you understood what was castration ?

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2026 6:36 am
by WheelyFixed
Quick reference - w/ history and rough description... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farnham%27s_Freehold IMHO the description of the reception is rather selectively unkind, though there are definitely elements of truth to it... The novel's 'backstory' as given makes some sense, in that especially at the time of it's writing, it was not unreasonable to assume that the US, USSR, Europe and so on would get wiped out in a nuclear war, but that Africa and South America would be relatively unscathed as they had little of 'target value'. This (per the book) allowed Africa to get a head start on rebuilding and take over afterwards, and "power corrupts"

I'm really not sure why I found the book so disturbing, probably a mix of both fear and being bothered that I found the idea exiting at the same time.

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