Beauty of the eunuch body

[frivolous (imported)]

Some years ago I was diagnosed with prostate cancer and subsequently had my prostate surgically removed. To perform the operation a Da Vinci robot was used with excellent results (and only a hardly visible scar) except that my erection nerves were damaged and I could not longer have an erection.

In the course of time my penis started to shrink and is now about 5 cm. in length and because of the shrinking the end of my penis is now just a bunch of wrinkled loose skin. On top of that my scrotum has stretched quite a bit and between my testicles a loose flap of skin is now hanging. Altogether a quite unsightly look.

I am of slender and athletic build and always liked my body to remain good looking. I have always admired the beauty of the human body and have been a nudist since my youth and when we married my wife considered then there was no reason for me to wear clothes at home and so she has always let me live completely naked to her great enjoyment and pleasure actually.To improve the looks of my body she had me have a few epilation sessions with a laser to remove my bodily hair so that my body is entirely hairless and definetely more pleasing to look at.

The only thing we both find that ruins the looks of my body now are my ugly looking genitals which are obsolete anyway and an eyesore for my otherwise well trimmed and lean body and so my wife suggested I have them removed and become a eunuch.

I had a few nude ptictures of me and with some software I managed to remove my genitals on them and found that having only a tight, smooth and hairless piece of skin between my legs was actually quite appealing. I am just wondering if a plastic surgeon would agree to emasculate me without any medical justification (and if this would be legal) but just for the esthetics of it.

[T van Keel]

What you are thinking about is called nullification. This procedure is becoming more and more common and there are legal ways to become a nullo. You will need some kind of letter from a therapist confirming you will benefit from the nullification and you are aware of the consequences. If you can obtain the necessary paperwork, it is possible to have the genitals removed.

[Valery_V (imported)]

Surgery on nullification can be done for esthetic reasons, for example, in Thailand.

[Losethem (imported)]

While I would not classify you as transgendered, the WPATH Standards of Care (SOC) 8 will be coming out soon. They largely address the concerns you have and have a way forward to get this done. These new standards are scheduled to be published in August. From there it may take some time to work through the medical system around the world, but at least you'll have something to point to if you go to see a doctor about it.

I'm not sure a plastic surgeon is the best option, but they are important to have for the final result after the genitals are removed. You want the faintest scar possible, and plastic surgeons generally have those skills, where your average urologist may not. So you're coming to this at a good time, though a few months early.

Hang on, the new standards of care are coming. They should help your process tremendously.

[swllzgs1 (imported)]

Some years ago I was diagnosed with prostate cancer and subsequently had my prostate surgically removed. To perform the operation a Da Vinci robot was used with excellent results (and only a hardly visible scar) except that my erection nerves were damaged and I could not longer have an erection.

In the course of time my penis started to shrink and is now about 5 cm. in length and because of the shrinking the end of my penis is now just a bunch of wrinkled loose skin. On top of that my scrotum has stretched quite a bit and between my testicles a loose flap of skin is now hanging. Altogether a quite unsightly look.

I am of slender and athletic build and always liked my body to remain good looking. I have always admired the beauty of the human body and have been a nudist since my youth and when we married my wife considered then there was no reason for me to wear clothes at home and so she has always let me live completely naked to her great enjoyment and pleasure actually.To improve the looks of my body she had me have a few epilation sessions with a laser to remove my bodily hair so that my body is entirely hairless and definetely more pleasing to look at.

The only thing we both find that ruins the looks of my body now are my ugly looking genitals which are obsolete anyway and an eyesore for my otherwise well trimmed and lean body and so my wife suggested I have them removed and become a eunuch.

I had a few nude ptictures of me and with some software I managed to remove my genitals on them and found that having only a tight, smooth and hairless piece of skin between my legs was actually quite appealing. I am just wondering if a plastic surgeon would agree to emasculate me without any medical justification (and if this would be legal) but just for the esthetics of it.

I am a home nudist also. I am impotent now. I also used home laser device removed my pubic hairs. I would like to have my scrotum removed to have a smooth bottom. You can find a doctor to do scrotum remove first then decide next surgery of remove penis.

[BillyBlogs (imported)]

I would have to fall into the classification of 'size queen'. But, I also understand what the ancient Greek aesthetic of the male body was about. A man with very small genitals, who is otherwise fit and healthy does look pretty damn fine, if you ask me. The way the abdominal muscles enhance the look of the tapered torso of a fit man really is nice to look upon.

I wonder if you could keep all or part of the penis head, so you retain the naturally closing no drip termination of the urethra? If it were done nicely, it could look rather good on an otherwise neutered man. Have a look at some ancient Greek pottery and Etruscan art. They drew their athletes with tiny dicks. They still look hot 2500 years later.

[frivolous (imported)]

If my prostate cancer would have been more advanced I would have had to undergo either chemical or surgical castration. Visiting some hospital sites to find out aboout the issue it looks like surgical castration is a rather fairly simple affair (and not expensive compared with the chemical way). You make an appointment with the surgeon, enter the hospital in the morning at the convened day, have local or complete anestesia, depending on the hospital, and have your testicles removed in a half hour operation. In the afternoon you can already go home. I think a plastic surgeon could do this job and have your scrotum professionally removed as well at the same time. A penectomy may indeed require a urologist. I also wonder what kind of scars would remain after a complete emasculation.

[frivolous (imported)]

Those Greeks and Romans knew what a beautiful body looked like and indeed the penises depicted on pottery and sculptures where maybe not big but were well shaped. As an example of a beautiful body, altough this is from the Italian Renaissance, I would like to mention the sculpture of David by Michelangelo, the genitals on it are not big but well shaped and of good proportions. Personally I find that a well proportioned body of a eunuch has esthetical appeal in its own right and actually we, humans, often modify the natural look of ourselves, animals or plants to fit the idea we have of what looks beautiful and attractive. We regard art as a important feature of our advanced civilization but art means artificial and this is exaclly the opposite of natural but we all love art in its many forms.

[T van Keel]

I somehow doubt that a castration including scrotum removal can be done properly in just half an hour. And even if you are allowed to go home the same day (I wouldn't recommend that) you will need a longer recovery time. Don't expect such a procedure is a piece of cake. It isn't. Regarding the nullification, it will usually result in a vertical scar along the complete way where the removed parts were located.

[Valery_V (imported)]

I somehow doubt that a castration including scrotum removal can be done properly in just half an hour. And even if you are allowed to go home the same day (I wouldn't recommend that) you will need a longer recovery time. Don't expect such a procedure is a piece of cake. It isn't. Regarding the nullification, it will usually result in a vertical scar along the complete way where the removed parts were located.

For removal of "a vertical scar" you may need additional help from a plastic surgeon.

However, if you have hair growing in the right places, it can hide this scar...

[frivolous (imported)]

The info was just about the removal of the testicals not including the removal of the scrotum. I've read the same thing on several hospital sites. You will of course need a recovery time after that but I found nowhere a mention of it.

[T van Keel]

I don't have any experience with castration only as I had everything removed in one surgery, but I wouldn't have been able to leave hospital right after the surgery. It took a few days until moving around became easier again. Six days after nullification I left hospital and were able to drive home in my own car. But recovery took minimum 4 to 6 weeks. This may be less when only testicles and scrotum are removed.

If you are seriously considering a castration or nullification, it would be a good idea to get in touch with suitable surgeons as they are able to answer your questions a lot better. There are one or two I could tell you in the area of Essen / Germany. Don't know if this is an option for you.

[blackblack (imported)]

if you want to keep a good shape after castration,the real problem is hormone

[Castor]

In my case, the information from the urology department at the hospital was as follows:

- Simple bilateral orchiectomy: Can be done on an outpatient basis

- Simple bilateral orchiectomy and scrotectomy (removal of the scrotum): Three days stay

May I ask something about the removal of the prostate? I am surprised that a nerve-sparing operation was apparently not performed or am I wrong here (https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/n ... ate-cancer)?

Did the hospital actually inform you that there are now also ways to heal the destroyed nerves (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 71699.html)

[WheelyCurious]

Did the hospital actually inform you that there are now also ways to heal the destroyed nerves (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 71699.html)

Not to be a total wet blanket, but that article only applies to LAB RATS - it may be years before HUMANS get any sort of chance to try it, and even longer before it would be available at the local pharmacy.... The drug is not yet even going for the first stage of testing needed for FDA approval.

There is also a BIG red flag in the article where they do Financial Disclosures:

Financial disclosures: Dr. Sharp is the chief scientific officer at MicroCures, Inc., and Drs. Sharp, Davies, and Friedman hold stock in MicroCures, Inc.

Since they are reporting on a paper published about a drug being developed by Microcures, Inc. I see this as a screaming conflict of interest, as this is the kind of 'news' released by corporations looking to pump up their stock price....

I see this kind of story being released on almost a weekly basis by researchers in the SCI world, where they have had some sort of amazing results in trying to make test tubes and lab rats walk again... However almost NO clinical trials have come out of said stories....

So color me skeptical at best...

WheelyCurious

[Castor]

Of course, this is all just in the laboratory stage. But that doesn't change the fact that intensive work is being done to repair the nerve damage that often occurs during this operation. It would be better if they had never occurred, which is why I don't understand why the urologists apparently didn't consider the nerve-sparing operation.

[WheelyCurious]

I'm just saying that "intensive work" has been going on for MANY years, both on spinal and peripheral nerves (peripherals appear to be easier as they can sometimes regenerate) but almost nothing ever makes it out of the lab, so don't get excited about the latest press release...

I have no way of knowing what the surgeon's decision process was, but my understanding is that the 'nerve sparing' is an optimistic hope rather than a definite procedure, and in a cancer case it may also depend on just where the cancer is and whether they can get it w/o also getting the nerves... My limited understanding is that the nerve sparing option is mostly only a choice if the surgery is for a non-cancer related enlarged prostate.

Basically the surgeon's bottom line is to get the cancer, your sex life is secondary.....

WheelyCurious

[Castor]

I don't think anyone here is naive enough to think that a press release will solve everything. The approval of such a drug is a long process. But the destruction of the nerves during a prostatectomy is a huge problem for the patients. The source I mentioned is just one of many and should only be used as an example. You could ask the clinic if they see any possibilities here, for example, volunteering to participate in a study. If necessary, this could be better than rashly taking the diametrically opposite path. The point of my question to frivolous was only whether the hospital has done anything in this direction - nothing more.

[eunuchjeff (imported)]

The info was just about the removal of the testicles not including the removal of the scrotum. I've read the same thing on several hospital sites. You will of course need a recovery time after that but I found nowhere a mention of it.

My own experience re the orchiectomy procedure over 20 years ago now is exactly what you describe except that it was done by a veterinarian friend. Because I had very short cords connecting the testicles to the inguinal canal - about 1 cm, it took a lot more time. Nonetheless, I was in some pain that was remedied by tylenol and a short nap. A few hours later I walked over a mile to a nearby restaurant with some friends with little or no pain. Full recovery took about three weeks, but continued with little if any pain.