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Taylor (imported)
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Are there any eunuchs or nullos that are bodybuilders?

I know about the redistribution of bodyfat and changes in muscle mass resulting from castration. However, as a possible future nullo, I am interested in how difficult it is for one to not only keep in good shape but to maintain muscular definition.

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T.
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I'm certainly not the best person here to answer your question. I've been on Androcur for only 5 weeks but I've noticed major effects. Like practically no libido, very little ejaculate when I do manage an orgasm. I'm not motivated to try that often. :-) I feel more tired than I used to only if I do not keep up with exercising. Since starting Androcur, I've been exercising much more regularly and have actually increased by up to 30% the weight on some strength exercises. I was never a bodybuilder but I have kept in pretty decent shape over the years. So I'm encouraged that I'm able to continue exercising now. When I do, I feel just as energized as I ever did. I think it will become more difficult for me if I stop exercising for an extended period. It may be more difficult for me to start back up. In addition, I'm pleased to say I've lost 10 pounds since starting Androcur, not experiencing any weight gain sometimes associated with lowered testosterone. I think this is because my mood is actually much better since I started chemical castration. I'm not depressed at all and this is probably because I'm finally dealing with my gender dysphoria issues. So now I'm eating better. I've also not noticed any reduction in motivation but most definitely an increase in motivation. Long story, but I'm constantly active now with things I enjoy doing.
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Good for you Todd. It sounds like the right thing for you. Taylor, if you want to gain or maintain a muscular appearance you could try Decadurabolin which is available in the US through preventive medical clinics. Outside the US you can get Primobolan. These have fairly low androgenicity so they won't stimulate your sex drive much, but they will definitely help you get lean, have more energy, strength, stamina, drive and build muscle. Make sure you get it legally from a doctor because black market drugs are dirty and usually not what you think you are buying. It is extremely important to try the chemical castration route before you do it for real (for at least a year) to make sure it is right for you (because you can't go back once it is done). Your doctor could add the Deca or Primo to your regimen so you can find the right dose.
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Todd & DocT, thanks. Your responses are much appreciated.

Unfortunately, my responsibilities to others doesn't permit me to pursue the way I would like to have my body altered. (Sigh)...for now I can only continue gathering information until such time as I am able to pursue and achieve my goal.

As for the testing it out before the point of no return, wise advice which I will certainly do. Once I have made a decision though, I never look back, only forward.

T.
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As a serious bodybuilder, interested in modification, I would be most interested if any other gym nuts have lost theirs? My goal is to remain huge and continue growing even after becoming the nuetered male that I am supposed to be.

I have heard that Deca improperly cycled can cause severe shrinkage to the male genitalia. Of course it causes immense gains in muscle but the long term effects on other organs seems questionable.

Any bodybuilders done Deca? I suppose a good stint on them may do the trick and give me baby boy privates but then wonder if switching to another would be required since the testes would be damaged and unable to produce enough man hormones to keep a bodybuilder huge. Of course this would be a perfect medical excuse to have them removed.

Now that I think of it a tiny baby boy penis and no nuts might just be sexy on a huge bodybuilder.

Thanks!
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Trophy boy,

we have a lot in common. I am a body builder like you, and also am seeking castration and penis shrinkage.i am overly endowed and was called "meat and potatoes" in highschool .i was originally a swimmer ,but my speedos ,just would not fit.

I am on steroids and that has helped shrink my testes ,butnot my penis. I have to wear a special jock strap when i compete, under my suit.as you know ,being well hung hurts your chances of winning at body building.

I want a baby boy's sisized penis and no testicles or scrotum.

Jeff9000
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I went to my doctor today.

He was concerned about the shrinkage of my testicles.He knows I am a body builder and on steroids and warned me if I did not quit I might lose them.I had to pretend to be upset,but i was smiling inside.I have an appointment with a urologist next week.May be they can be removed by a legitimate Dr,I hope that can happen.
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While I'm not a body builder, I've remained fairly active and athletic even though ballless. Steroids and/or testosterone (HRT) will help you to maintain your male musculature. Some might say, they might facilitate continued and further development.

While I wouldn't be wearing a posing pouch in my own sports (running, cycling, swimming), I've heard some bodybuilders say that smaller packages attract more points in scoring. That's why some would welcome smaller or no testicles. I have a micro pouch from Koala that tucks the cock between the legs and makes almost any guy look as flat as a woman. It works especially well w/ no balls. You be the judge of what you want to do and how far you want to go?
Taylor (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:32 am Are there any eunuchs or nullos that are bodybuilders?

I know about the redistribution of bodyfat and changes in muscle mass resulting from castration. However, as a possible future nullo, I am interested in how difficult it is for one to not only keep in good shape but to maintain muscular definition.
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TrophyBoy (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:54 am As a serious bodybuilder, interested in modification, I would be most interested if any other gym nuts have lost theirs? My goal is to remain huge and continue growing even after becoming the nuetered male that I am supposed to be.

I have heard that Deca improperly cycled can cause severe shrinkage to the male genitalia. Of course it causes immense gains in muscle but the long term effects on other organs seems questionable.

Any bodybuilders done Deca? I suppose a good stint on them may do the trick and give me baby boy privates but then wonder if switching to another would be required since the testes would be damaged and unable to produce enough man hormones to keep a bodybuilder huge. Of course this would be a perfect medical excuse to have them removed.

Now that I think of it a tiny baby boy penis and no nuts might just be sexy on a huge bodybuilder.

Thanks!

I have never been, and am not a body builder.

However I saw a program on National Geographic TV about a young male who went through a complete surgical transgender operation from male to female.

Upon completion he was very female, I mean you would never know he had ever been male.

Eventually he didn't like it.

So, with medical assistance and supervision, he started taking hormones, exercised, and switched back to a VERY HUNKY BUFF muscular male figure. I mean REALLY muscular. He had no cock or balls, he was at that point a nullo, but from all exterior appearances you would never never know it. He was visually all male, very male, in every other way.

From one extreme to the other. He did it.
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I agree...losing the balls would be cool, however the loss of male physic and strength would not be acceptable...at all...and the feminizing aspects would be completely undesirable...

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Due to a chronic infection I suffered orchitis resulting...

Sorry space bar broken.

Still work out and .bodybuild

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TrophyBoy (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:54 am s a serious bodybuilder, interested in modification, i would be most interested if any other gym nuts have lost theirs? My goal is to remain huge and continue growing even after becoming the nuetered male that
i am supposed to be.

I have heard that d
TrophyBoy (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:54 am eca improperly cycled can cause severe shrinkage to the male genitalia. Of course it causes immense gains in muscle but the long term effects on other organs seems questionable.

Any bodybuilders done deca? I suppose a good stint on them may do the trick and give me baby boy privates but then wonder if switching to another would be required since the testes would be damaged and unable to produce enough man hormones to keep a bodybuilder huge. Of course this would be a perfect medical excuse to have them removed.

Now that i think of it a tiny baby boy penis and no nuts might just be sexy on a huge bodybuilder.

Thanks!
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Check out "the manginaman.com" He claims he was nulloed at 24. I still wonder if he had transgendered and then switched back, it looks like he's had work done to the chest area. Now he's gotten into bodybuilding seriously. With proper replacement therapy there doesn't seem to be any reason this wouldn't be possible.
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streetglide (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:27 pm Check out "the manginaman.com" He claims he was nulloed at 24. I still wonder if he had transgendered and then switched back, it looks like he's had work done to the chest area. Now he's gotten into bodybuilding seriously. With proper replacement therapy there doesn't seem to be any reason this wouldn't be possible.

According to the Manginaman website, he was born female and became a male. Guess creating the male genitalia wasn't an option.

Looks a lot like the F-M transsexual Photographer I have seen on Discovery Health (TV), without the chest scars.

Proves the power of replacement "T" and determination.
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artisticlicense (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:51 pm Proves the power of replacement "T" and determination.

However a Francesca and bad attitude may also work just fine!

Chilli-
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No steroid I ever used has shrunken my penis, in fact, the higher androgenic stuff, like testosterone, has increased it's size. My balls are pretty shrunken though, and that's where Deca is the greatest offender at that. Steroids do not really shrink penises. But I still say if your testosterone is suppressed all the way, and you are on a very weak steroid, your penis may shrink over time. Not because of the weak steroid, but more accurately, because your lack of testosterone in your system.
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See the link:

http://www.24hrfitness.co.uk/bodybuildi ... erone.html

or Google:

"10 Simple Steps To Sky Rocket Your Natural Testosterone Levels"

[Include the quote marks.]

Some of these suggestions probably will work even without testicles as the adrenal glands secrete some testosterone. Perhaps there is way to increase the amount of this natural secretion from the adrenals.
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The things mentioned in the link my increase the production of testosterone in the testicles. Although would like to see some real medical studies to support the claims. If it would be so simple, it would be well known and used by many. With out the testicles you only have the adrenal glands left. Adrenal gland only makes a little testosterone compared to the testicles. Some where around 5 %. The amount it puts out remains about the same before and after castration.
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the question is can you maintain a good body and energy without adding TRT back into the mix?
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DavidB (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:39 am the question is can you maintain a good body and energy without adding TRT back into the mix?

If your question is if castrated and you do not take any drugs .......

You can maintain a good healthy body. Good cardiology health with exercise and eating right. You will loose muscle mass mass and bulk. Some of the energy and stamina will be reduced. The fat cells will change and behave different in your body. The location on where they form will be different. This is all hormone driven. Without testosterone these changes will happen.

If you look at a female bodybuilder before and after taking testosterone you will see just what the effects of the hormone has on the body. Also see what happens when see goes off the hormone. No question on the effects of muscle mass and testosterone.

As a man ages his testosterone levels will also drop. He will start to experience the same effects over time. The amount and degree will vary greatly from one man to another. Could start in his 40's or 90's. Reason why guys are getting testosterone shots to boost the levels.
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I suppose you could stay lean without T, there are lean women. But you can't build much muscle plain and simple. It's an interesting question, and probably depends alot on the person and their genetics.
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I am not a body builder. But here is what I did.

I visited bodybuiding web sites and I found one that described how bodybuilders manage to LOWER their T level through exercise, diet, and nutrition (and alcohol).

Then they visit their MD, get a blood test, which yields a very low T level.

Bingo, they get a prescription for Testosterone.

They alter their diet, their natural T recovers, plus the prescription T, and they get "bulked up".

My natural T is low, but when I took TRT, I had unpleasant side effects.........although the side effects of not taking TRT were worse.

Anyway, through diet, exercise, and TRT I am currently stable and at a point that is to my satisfaction. I don't get tired, I exercise, I take all the T lowering food and nutrition (per bodybuilding web site) and I take prescription TRT.

There seems to be a balance of low to almost no sex drive, shrinking testicles, yet I have regained my energy, positive emotions, and mental clarity. I have few to no thoughts about/of sex and my body seems to be in a state of sexual neutrality.

This is just about where I wanted to be. Don't know if this will last, and if it will work for anyone else. Main thing is to not OD on anything (diet, exercise, nutrition additives, food, etc.). TRT is the only medication I take, everything else is natural. So far results are favorable.
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