Taking the Plunge.....Again

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Today was another day of the physical dysphoria creeping in. It was a day when I saw my male self in the mirror and wished he could be seen in more than just my mind. I've pretty much accepted most of what comes along with the eunuch life. The low energy bothers me, but it isn't something I can't handle. This was also a day with aches and pains, but as long as every day isn't one of those, I should be OK. What I am still having trouble with is the not looking like a man thing.

Oh, am I glad I got rid of that T last year! I did it because I knew this would happen. If I still had the T, chances are high I would have taken it again, and I know that isn't what I need. Despite my discomfort with my appearance, I know that I need to embrace the new me instead of running from him. The good news is my insurance denied coverage for my new T prescription, and for me that was further confirmation that this is what is meant to be.

I suppose I could share a few non-eunuch related updates :) After about four years of living in the big city, I have decided it's time to move back to the town I started in when I first came to Ohio. I guess after a while you get tired of city living and want to try something different. Now the city I am moving to is still relatively sizeable, but it is nowhere near the size of where I live now. It should give me a nice balance of open spaces and the proper amenities. Living there will make it feasible to work in more rural locations while keeping me close enough to the big city to drive there for work if I need to.

I have always thought I would spend my life living in many different parts of the country. Now that I have gotten a taste of four seasons, I can't see ever moving back to Southern California. One of the advantages of my line of work is that I can move pretty much anywhere and find work without much difficulty :)

I already have a place in my "new" city, and one of the great things about it is that I live just down the street from some recreational trails, which leaves me pretty happy since I can be quite the outdoors enthusiast. Today I went to my new place (I also have the old one through the end of the month) to drop off some things, and I decided to make the short drive to the trail. I was mesmerized by its beauty even when the world is still mostly winter-looking (but I did notice the first signs of life, which got me excited). There is something so peaceful and wonderful about spending time in nature. I can tell this is a place I will enjoy spending a great deal of time this summer.

My other non-eunuch related update (or is it?) is that I have recently been giving some consideration to adopting a pet. I am wondering if this is because of hormonal changes, particularly my sudden interest in possibly getting a dog. I have never considered myself a dog person and always thought I would have a cat if I ever had a pet. But lately I have been wanting a dog for some reason and have been thinking of dogs with a lot more affection than I used to. Fortunately this new place does allow pets, so it is an option if it turns into something I decide to pursue.
tugon (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:36 am I always enjoy reading your posts. My greatest wish for you is one day you can find where you are happiest on the male to female continuum. There is peace in being your genuine self and one day you will have the answer.

Thanks so much for your support! :)
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plix (imported) wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:20 am My other non-eunuch related update (or is it?) is that I have recently been giving some consideration to adopting a pet. I am wondering if this is because of hormonal changes, particularly my sudden interest in possibly getting a dog. I have never considered myself a dog person and always thought I would have a cat if I ever had a pet. But lately I have been wanting a dog for some reason and have been thinking of dogs with a lot more affection than I used to. Fortunately this new place does allow pets, so it is an option if it turns into something I decide to pursue.

Thanks so much for your support! :)

Remember how much Corky likes you. Dogs are more work than cats but what great company on all your walks. Corky is a chick magnet. Bad Corky! Seriously dogs can really break the ice with other dog owners. You can not help but meet people.
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Oh and I also wanted to suggest visiting the local Humane Society. When you adopt a dog it has been either spayed or neutered, given all of it's shots, tested for heartworm and a bag of dog food to start you out. You can visit them many times as you decide on a dog. They are very friendly there and I am one of the friendly volunteers. You may also want to consider a dog a year or two old instead of a puppy. Puppies have small bladders and are more apt to have wetting accidents if you are working an 8 hour day. I have a crate you can borrow if you want to crate train the dog while at work. Corky has the run of your old bedroom while I am gone so you may not need it long. Some dogs will choose to go in their crates as their personal space so once you let it out just leave the door open.

They have a fun adoption process and you are listed as the pet parent. I was pleased that they did not use terms like owner or master but parent. Cause I love my boy. Similar to the adoption process at Build A Bear but your dog is already full of life. You do have to apply to adopt and list references and of course I would be one. Do keep in mind the additional costs of food, vet visits, medications and most importantly a large selection of treats. Dogs are nice to sleep with and to spoil.
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tugon (imported) wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:30 am Oh and I also wanted to suggest visiting the local Humane Society. When you adopt a dog it has been either spayed or neutered, given all of it's shots, tested for heartworm and a bag of dog food to start you out. You can visit them many times as you decide on a dog. They are very friendly there and I am one of the friendly volunteers. You may also want to consider a dog a year or two old instead of a puppy. Puppies have small bladders and are more apt to have wetting accidents if you are working an 8 hour day. I have a crate you can borrow if you want to crate train the dog while at work. Corky has the run of your old bedroom while I am gone so you may not need it long. Some dogs will choose to go in their crates as their personal space so once you let it out just leave the door open.

They have a fun adoption process and you are listed as the pet parent. I was pleased that they did not use terms like owner or master but parent. Cause I love my boy. Similar to the adoption process at Build A Bear but your dog is already full of life. You do have to apply to adopt and list references and of course I would be one. Do keep in mind the additional costs of food, vet visits, medications and most importantly a large selection of treats. Dogs are nice to sleep with and to spoil.

I've looked into the Humane Society and am thinking about paying a visit some time soon. :) It sounds like probably the best option for adoption. One thing I will have to consider as part of my decision is that in addition to the costs you mentioned, I will need to pay a non-refundable pet fee and a monthly pet rent to my landlord. I would expect the initial costs of getting a dog (including adoption fee, landlord fee, and other items) to be several hundred dollars. I suppose that for the right dog it could all be worth it :)

Thanks for all your help and advice! :)
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Warning: This post discusses material of a sensitive nature, that being my personal religious/spiritual beliefs. Some people may find the content offensive.

I went to church on Sunday morning for the first time in many years. I visited a Catholic church once about five years ago, and other than that I have not attended church since I was 18. A friend from work invited me to go with her family, and I thought it would be an interesting experience, so I did it. Not much has changed since I attended regularly during my childhood. They still start the service with a worship session, still pass around a collection plate to ask for money, still finish by having the pastor deliver a sermon, and still have a few prayers in between.

I grew up as a Protestant. I went to church from an early age and considered myself a spiritual person. At various times I was interested in ministry as a career. The earliest church I can remember going to was a Nazarene church. I don't have many memories of this church. The only clear one is of the pastor talking with me about one of the many moves I would experience as a child. It wasn't long after the move that my family started going to the church I spent most of my pre-adolescent childhood in, a Vineyard church. It was here I met many of the people I remember most from my childhood. I also officially became "saved" (as Christians would describe it) for the first time at this church when I was about 7. I was sort of baptized here, but since I was terrified of going underwater at the time (I was a fearful child, so unfortunately this was only one of many things I was afraid of), the pastor simply sprinkled some water on my forehead from the shallow end of a swimming pool, so I don't know if that counts.

It was at this church that my questioning of religion would show its earliest signs. I remember asking around age 9 or so about the Big Bang Theory (I think I read about it in a book I owned at the time) and the Sunday school teacher telling me that it was false.

While I was confused, I accepted her answer and remained a pretty spiritual person. One of the people I remember most from this church was a man who became a good friend of mine (I tended to have older friends as a child). I would always talk to him about spiritual matters. He died from cancer at an early age, so he was only in my life for a few years. After his death I imagined him being in Heaven. I once had a dream that I visited Heaven and woke up crying because I didn't get to see him.

For some reason (I either don't know or can't remember why), we stopped going to that church not long after his death. By this time I was living with my grandmother, and while she says she is religious, she has never been a big churchgoer. About a year later we started going to a Baptist church. Out of all the churches we went to (except I can't remember much about the Nazarene church), this one seemed the most conservative. The dress code was on the formal side. From what I understand, they are the reason my mother married that man she lived with - apparently they told her it was a sin for them to live together unmarried and they needed to fix it. I remember the pastor as being a likeable guy. I was formally baptized by him (completely underwater this time). The only thing I didn't like was that he wasn't interested in helping me understand the deeper questions I had about the Bible. I was pretty interested in learning about the messages in Revelation, and he said that wasn't applicable to most people's daily lives so he probably wouldn't address it.

I think the main reason my grandmother went to this church was so that she could do things for my mother on Sundays, and eventually we stopped going to this one as well. I didn't attend church much during my early teens, but I read the Bible, prayed, and generally considered myself religious. I did visit a church a few times with a friend and remember at one point getting "saved" once again because I felt I had strayed too far from the path. I also went to a Christian summer camp when I was 14. When I was 17, I had my strongest religious period. I ended up no longer watching certain TV shows that I enjoyed and stopped playing a game that I liked to play because I believed they were sins. It was also then that I started going to church regularly again with a friend who invited me. Out of all the pastors I had, the one at this church was probably my favorite. He took the time to talk with me when I had questions either through e-mail or through visits in person. He was also willing to address some of the "deeper" questions that I had and even introduced me to some issues I hadn't previously considered such as the possible gap between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2.

About the time I turned 18 is when everything changed. I don't exactly remember what prompted it, but suddenly I became interested in researching possible contradictions in the Bible. The more I researched, the more holes I found, both in the Bible and in the Christian religion as a whole. I remember one night while I was reading some material on the Internet saying to myself "It's not true, is it?" I soon officially declared myself an atheist, and then was when the real fun began. The time between when I graduated from high school and started college was my most atheistic phase - I call it my "hardcore atheist" phase. I was convinced that religion was evil and that my job was to turn every religious person into an atheist. I continued going to church, and I was still welcomed even though the pastor knew I had become an atheist. I mostly went because I got some sort of satisfaction out of knowing that I didn't believe those silly things that the people there believed and that I knew the truth.

The interesting thing was that when I first became an atheist, my younger brother was still Christian and debated me about the existence of God. He was firmly convinced that God existed, and none of my arguments were swaying him at first. During this time in my life I was unusually logical, and since my brother has always been pretty logical, I was eventually able to get to him by using logical arguments against God's existence. Although he argued for the existence of God with me at first, he soon began arguing fiercely against God's existence and became one of the most hardcore atheists I know. He has always been much more confrontational than I have and would argue very aggressively with religious people while I might only interject the occasional point and would drop it after that. He, on the other hand, could argue those same points for hours. The way I look at it is I basically turned him atheist, and if there is some sort of punishment/reward system in the afterlife, I figure there is some punishment waiting for me for doing that. I of course haven't spoken to him in years and don't know that he is still atheist, but given that he is far more logical than I am and doesn't have that same emotional need to believe in something that I have discovered in myself, I think it is safe to say he is still a pretty hardcore atheist.

My time as an atheist was also one of the darkest times in my life. This was when I wrote most of my poetry and short stories centered around death and suicide. I also developed some of my most pessimistic philosophies during this period. When I became atheist, I thought life was pretty meaningless, and I truly believed that death was what I wanted. I even wrote a suicide note to my family with some pretty disturbing things like telling them death was a great thing and that they should be happy for me that I died.

Near the end of that summer my emotional side finally regained control, and while I still considered myself atheist, I stopped trying to turn other people into atheists. I realized that religion made people happy, and if something like that could make a person happy, who was I to take it away from them? I wouldn't fully appreciate this until reading the book "An Atheist Defends Religion" many years later. It was then that I realized what a beautiful thing religion is and all of the good it has done for humanity.

The person who convinced me to give religion another chance during my first year of college was my mother's new boyfriend. He believed in a brand of Christianity that went much deeper than anything you would ever hear in church. I remember he told me "I knew Christianity went deeper; I just didn't know where to find it." He did have a few strange and possibly psychotic beliefs - probably the strangest was that he would live forever. But he didn't seem psychotic at all outside of these peculiar beliefs, and because I was always attracted to the deeper aspects of spirituality, I suddenly became very interested in what he had to say. While he was open to sharing with me at first, he eventually felt I wasn't making enough progress and concluded this wasn't "meant" for me and stopped talking to me about it. He did however always believe it was meant for my mother and would continue sharing with her until he died from lung cancer (he was a smoker but apparently thought nothing would happen to him since he was supposed to live forever). When he died in 2008, I decided once again that religion couldn't be true since if he was wrong, how could the more traditional, shallow Christianity be true? While I now recognize that his beliefs were clearly wrong and he was possibly a bit psychotic (though I think any psychosis would have been very mild since he seemed normal outside of these beliefs), I still think he was an admirable man and probably among the truest of Christians I have known. He lived simply with few possessions, felt the inside is what counts most, and felt it was wrong to cheat even in ways that most people cheat all the time and think nothing of.

Since 2008, I have come to the conclusion that atheism doesn't work for me. There is still a logical portion of me saying that atheism is the truth and I just can't accept that, so I suppose it could just be that my emotional side is winning, but it is what it is, and I have accepted I am hardwired to believe in something. I don't know exactly what that something is. Since I was raised Christian, I guess the Christian version of that something is the easiest for me to conceptualize. When I pray, I tend to think of the Christian God.

I do find it difficult to believe that only one religion could be correct. I tend to think that all religions are a path to whatever might be out there. I think of the Christian version of ultimate reality because it is what I was taught, but for someone who grew up Hindu, that version of ultimate reality would be what they think of. We all grow up under different circumstances, and different cultures have different ideas of what God is, but to quote one of my favorite books, The Secret Garden: "It isn't like us poor fools as think it matters if us is called out of our names."

There are a couple of things about Christianity that trouble me. The first is that many Christians seem to be Sunday Christians only. They go to church on Sunday and act like it matters a great deal to them, but after leaving church it doesn't cross their mind again until next Sunday. I've always thought that if you are Christian (or any other religion), it should be something that is a part of all areas of your life rather than just once a week.

The other troublesome thing is that I think works do matter. A lot of Christians seem to think that all you have to do is believe in Jesus and after that you are covered and can do whatever you want. I think that actions matter as well, and one thing I like about the denomination of this church I went to on Sunday is that it seems to place an emphasis on works (but I still know very little about the denomination). For now I think I will go to this church again, and we will see where this leads me.
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Use whatever helps you find peace. My only suggestion is to attend a church with a minister who is truly educated in Theology. I would encourage a mainstream denomination and avoid some of the fringe groups. We have a cult like church in the area that is a little frightening.
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Somewhere, Jesus said simething along the lines: The law is summarised as love God with all your heart, soul mind and strength and

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Love your neighbour as yourself.

Kinda simple, I try to follow this way....loving myself is the hard bit!
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One of the continuing sources of negativity in my life is the deep feelings of resentment I have for my family, particularly my parents. It has only been recently that I have realized just how deep that resentment runs.

I don't even know if calling them parents is appropriate. They certainly never did much parenting. My father left my mother, my brother, and me for another woman when I was 4. Although he would often promise that he was coming to visit, he rarely actually did. I think that is why to this day I am still stung so deeply when someone makes a promise to me and then breaks it while probably thinking nothing of it. I haven't seen him in over 8 years, I haven't spoken to him in about 6 years, and the last time I heard from him at all was through a very brief e-mail he sent me about a year and a half ago. I didn't reply. I used to reply back before I realized that when I did, he would send me one more e-mail and then nothing more after I would reply again.

I don't expect he will try to contact me again. I have mixed feelings about that. It hurts because more than anything in the world I want a father, but on the other hand, if this is who I get, then I don't really care if I ever hear from again. What is most concerning though is that deep down I know that he and I are probably more alike than I would ever hope for. I look exactly like him (or at least I did before the castration), and I was always told I acted like him as well.

My mother is no better. Although she was at least in the picture until I was 10, she was a poor excuse for a mother. She allowed a man to move into our home, and when that man became abusive toward me, she did nothing to stop the problem. She even participated in it on occasion. When she was in court when I was 10 to decide where I would go to live, she blamed me for her problems. She never calls me or shows any kind of interest in my life. I decided long ago that I will never call her again. If she ever wants to talk to me, she will have to call me. So far she hasn't, and I doubt she ever will. The only contact we seem to have now is a simple greeting on Facebook for birthdays and holidays, and I have decided she isn't worth even doing that anymore. I am always the one who has tried to maintain the relationship, and she has made it very clear she isn't interested.

It appears that she is training my sister well. I have also tried to maintain a relationship with my sister by calling her, but she hasn't shown any interest. The one time she did contact me was a month ago to ask me for some money for her 18th birthday. She didn't even call - she just sent me a Facebook message asking me for money. I tried to dodge the question at first. I enjoy giving and would have been happy to give her a gift for her birthday if we had any kind of relationship. But I don't feel particularly inclined to give her anything when she just contacts me out of nowhere asking for money after not contacting me for a long time prior to that. When she persisted, I eventually told her that finances were tight and that maybe she would get something for her graduation (I doubt she will). Yes, she is turning into my mother.

I am more interested in a relationship with my brother than with my parents. However, like my parents, he does not seem interested in a relationship with me. I suspect that like me he has written off contact with the family. I have tried calling him and letting him know he can call me anytime, but he never does. It's a shame because I often think that in some ways he and I are all each other has. We are similar in many ways (but also different in other ways), and we both experienced the same difficult background in our childhoods. We were pretty close as children, but once he made the choice to return to live with our mother and that man, we drifted apart, and it's been that way since. I often think about him and wonder how he is doing, but I don't know that he thinks about me (he probably doesn't).

It can be hard when I am around other families that actually act like families. I have noticed this lately when I have been spending time with a friend from work and her family (the one who invited me to church). They are wonderful people, and it is clear their family is very loving and close. That whole concept is completely foreign to me. I have never known what it is like to have a family like that. Most people do and cannot relate to how I feel. They are surprised when I tell them my family is not close. But it does no good to dwell on negative feelings in situations like that. Instead of feeling bad because I didn't have a family like that, I try to feel happy for those kids because they have such great, loving parents. When you come from a difficult background, feeling joy for other people's fortune rather than resentment for your own misfortune may be the best solution.
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Yes from all you have shared you did not grow up in a healthy nurturing home. I guess that is why I am impressed with how well you are doing on your own. Work through the anger and resentment and then start choosing your family. Family does not have to be biologically related. Find others who can give you what you missed. Sounds like you have some kind folks in your life right now. Model their behaviors and try to be less like your family not that you are. Friends are chosen and family is a crap shoot.

I know you have done much for your family. I know they have done little for you. You no longer owe them anything. It is time to look out for yourself. If you have spare money and sending it to them makes you feel good then what the hell. Otherwise let them fend for themselves.

I share many feelings about family but I am glad you let yourself see the joy in a good family. That tells me the resentment is not overwhelming you. Sometimes resentment is so strong you can be angered by joy and love. Do not give up hope that you will have that joy, love and peace. Bad example has taught you how to have a good family.
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I have long suspected, and other non-professionals have suggested, that I may have Asperger's Syndrome. There are a number of reasons for my suspicion. The poor social skills and the feeling that there is a social situations rulebook that everyone but me has read, my tendency to be self-absorbed and have problems with giving and taking in conversations, my tendency to fixate, my religious subscription to routine, and my poor eye contact (This one was a much greater issue when I was younger than it is now. In fact, I recently had someone tell me that I have good eye contact, which would have shocked anyone who knew me as a child, but sometimes it can still be a problem, especially with strangers).

However, the number one reason that leads me to suspect Asperger's is those symptoms combined with my strange, autistic-like movements such as body rocking, jumping, and hand/arm flapping. When I was very young I would do these things freely no matter where I was, but I was shamed for them by family members. My grandfather called it "jumping around." He would often say "Stop your jumping around." My grandmother told me I would be thought of as gay for it. Over time I learned not to do these things around other people, and I now only do them when I am alone. When I am in private, they can still occur frequently.

While I have never been professionally diagnosed, my own research and suggestions of others lead me to believe that Asperger's is a strong possibility. I believe that I fit the DSM criteria for Asperger's (although from what I understand, it no longer exists in the most recent edition). Several friends, including a couple of people from work who are in the special education field, told me they think I have it. One of them said she would "eat her hat" if I didn't have it. The only doubt she mentioned was my good eye contact, but I think that is another thing I have learned to do over the years, even though it is still hard with strangers as I mentioned. The one time I did attempt to discuss it with a professional, a psychiatrist, she didn't seem the least bit concerned. Of course I was vague and only mentioned "strange movements." I did not specifically mention Asperger's.

There are some people who doubt that an INFP can have Asperger's. Admittedly, it does seem to be more of an NT thing. However, I can't seem to think of anything else that would describe that combination of symptoms, and there are other INFPs who have reported diagnoses of Asperger's or at least suspect they have it.

There are also those who would doubt that a P can have Asperger's. It definitely seems more correlated with a J personality. There are times when I have wondered if I might actually be J since I do seem to love routine so much. For example, I tend to eat the same foods for meals, I tend to park in the same place whenever I go to a store, and I tend to follow a rigid schedule in many ways. However, while some define the difference between J and P in terms of how much routine and structure is present in one's life, I have always thought the original definition focused on decision-making - whether you prefer closure or whether you want your options to remain open. In that sense, I am a very strong P. I hate to make decisions and prefer to put them off as long as possible. I am a major procrastinator. My interests are all over the place, and I am much better at starting projects than I am at completing them. These things tend to suggest a P personality. Perhaps it is the Asperger's that gives me the love of routine and structure even though I am P. Maybe other Ps with Asperger's have similar tendencies.

If it is possible for an NF to have Asperger's, I wonder how it might manifest differently in an NF compared to an NT. There is a boy at work who has been diagnosed with Asperger's (he is also probably an NT of some kind), and he sometimes has outbursts where he starts rambling about something and crying. I don't remember ever having outbursts like that as a child. I was always pretty quiet and reserved with my emotions. He also loves to talk about his "company" that he has made himself CEO of. He will often "fire" his peers who are "working" for him because they have upset him in some way. I would have never had an interest in being the CEO of a company when I was younger. In fact, I once had a friend who told me she thought I would be a CEO someday, and while I am sure she meant it as a compliment, I considered it an insult. Also, those who have Asperger's (and are usually NT) are often said to be interested in logic and math. I have very little interest in those subjects.

One possible way to reconcile my possible Asperger's with being NF instead of NT is to look at my head. The right side of my face has always been noticeably larger than my left side. I have often thought that it might be reasonable to assume the right side of my brain could be bigger than the left. Since the right side of the brain is often associated with feeling and emotion, could this be the reason why I have Asperger's but am INFP?

In addition to NF vs NT differences for those with Asperger's, another topic of curiosity for me is how the INFP personality might manifest itself differently in those with and without Asperger's.
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What a thoughtful post. The main goal, however is your personal happiness, not exact medical diagnosis
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The longer I am a eunuch, the tougher I am finding it to relate to men. Of course I have never really understood the way that men relate to one another even before I was a eunuch, but it seems to be more of a problem now that I am one.

I often wonder if maybe this is why I have sometimes experienced feelings of attraction to men. They seem so opposite of me, both physically and emotionally. A conversation I recently had with someone who seems like a stereotypical male, which consisted of jokes about not showering and being called "brother," was completely foreign to me, but apparently this is the way men relate to one another.

Perhaps my unmanly ways are why people often question my desires to work with children. The guy I mentioned also has a job working with children, and he seems pretty stereotypically masculine. There is another guy at my place of employment who also works with children, and a friend has told me that people are comfortable with him doing that work because he projects an "air of masculinity." Since stereotypical masculinity is usually associated with not being good with children, I wonder why people would prefer more masculine men rather than their less masculine counterparts around children. This same friend mentioned that he is also married, which makes people more comfortable with him being around children. My single status seems to be almost a point of fixation for her. She has brought it up numerous times as an explanation for why some people might be uncomfortable with me working around children and seems to think that I would have no trouble if I were married. I have never understood why people think that way (that children are unquestionably safe around married men) since married men can hurt children just as much as anyone else.

I always say the mental and emotional changes of castration aren't a strong effect for me, but lately I am realizing that there have been changes in that department since I stopped taking T. The time I have spent without T is now up to a year and a half, which is the longest I have been without it. I am beginning to think of it as like a watched pot. The changes aren't that noticeable if you are constantly looking for them, but if you come back after a great deal of time has passed, you can see that things are different.

I wonder if maybe the lack of T has moderated some of my Asperger's symptoms like the poor eye contact and flat affect. Likewise, the Asperger's could be why I don't have the some dramatic outward expressions of emotion that most people report with changes in hormone levels. However, even if I don't always express how I am feeling on the outside, I can tell there have been changes in how I think and feel on the inside. I also seem to be better at reading other people such as through tone of voice and facial expressions.

I am certainly a different person today because I made the choice to become a eunuch, and I honestly am having a harder and harder time remembering what it was like to be on T. In some ways that scares me. I was a different person back then, and I have now programmed both my body and mind to develop in this way instead of continuing on that path. Just as I would have expected my brain to continually respond to the effects of T had I never been castrated, I also expect that I will discover even more of this person I am now as time continues to pass.

Milkman: Thanks for sharing! :) I agree that a diagnosis would not really change anything. Some friends have told me that I should seek one because I might become eligible for "benefits." I'm not sure what they meant by that, but if they were referring to something like disability, I am not interested because I am capable of working.
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It is kind of surprising that something I rarely had to deal with growing up was bullying. You would think I would be a perfect example of a bullying victim. I was small, shy, weird, and had few friends. Yet it was something that I almost never encountered. I'm not sure exactly why that is, but I have a few different theories:

Theory #1: Bullying was less tolerated when I was growing up than it was in earlier times. I went to school from 1990-2003, which is still a relatively modern era. Evidence in support of this theory is that I don't recall witnessing anyone getting bullied at my schools, at least not in the stereotypical ways that you see in movies and television.

Theory #2: Bullying is less tolerated where I grew up (Southern California) than in other parts of the country. Evidence in support of this theory is the same as Theory #1.

Theory #3: People were afraid I was going to become the next school shooter. Evidence in support of this theory is that during high school whenever there was a school shooting people seemed to be extra nice to me. Of course if they had known me they would have realized it would never be in my heart to do something like that.

Theory #4 (and perhaps the most likely): I didn't react the way potential bullies would have hoped. I was emotionally unreactive in general. I rarely reacted to the way other people treated me, and the few times that I did react, it was generally to stand up for myself. I remember in fourth grade there was a time when someone pointed out that my pants were unzipped. A girl who was nearby began laughing, and I proceeded to give her what is probably the most evil look I have ever given anyone in my life. Her facial expression quickly changed, and she apologized.

I similarly stood up for myself in high school. This was the time when I had what was probably the closest thing to a single, persistent bully. There was a guy who would sometimes try to start trouble, but it was purely verbal, and incidents were few and far between (probably because I didn't react). The most noteworthy incident was during the beginning of my sophomore English class when we had to complete an assignment where we introduced a partner to the class. He was my partner. The things he said about me were not what I told him, and it was clear they were meant to humiliate me. I didn't react in front of the class, but after it was over I promptly informed the teacher. Later that year he said to me, "Remember in Ms. X's class when I made you cry?" I looked at him and boldly said "No," mainly because while I did remember the incident, I never cried. He didn't say anything else, and as far as I remember, that was the last time he said anything to me. I later heard that he ended up in jail.

I don't know for sure why bullying wasn't a big part of my childhood. It could be one or any combination of these theories or maybe even something else entirely. No matter what the reason, I suppose that I should consider myself fortunate that bullying was not something I had to deal with on a regular basis.
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I am glad to read your bullying in school was minimal. I did chuckle when I read people were nicer to you after a school shooting. Sadly for many of us our families were our first bullies.
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After many decades of studying the relationship of autism with human society, I have gradually been carried to an understanding that, if there is a mental disorder or disease associated with "the autism spectrum," the main disease is associated with being "neurotypical."

Since the DSM-5(tm) came upon the scene, the proper label has become DSM 299.00 Autism Spectrum Disorder (or ICD-10-CM F84.0 Autism Spectrum Disorder), and Aspies and Auties are of one shared, larger, community of normally diverse people...

Why do I regard neurotypical as the disorder and the autism spectrum as not the disorder? Students of the autism spectrum have noticed a tendency for autism spectrum folks to be more resolutely truthful than is typical of those of the neurotypical spectrum.

So, were it up to me to label (and it is not up to me), I would add a another category to the DSM-5(tm), namely "Neurotypical Deception Disorder."

I had a very difficult time, from 1984 into 1986, persuading neurotypical physicians and surgeons to not murder me by mythically benign surgical neglect.

On checking medical licenses, the urologist who told me of a method that might work, and that did work, has died in old age. I shall not name that person. However, the "look on his/her face" was remarkably remarkable, when I hauled out my Elastrator and bands and made it clear that I was not going to knowingly commit suicide by biological stupidity. Once the dear neurotypical physicians got it into their heads that I was not willing to commit suicide by allegedly benign neglect, they did wake up.

Being autistic and having studied biology at college level since I was eight years of age, the neurotypical physicians quickly discovered that I could as-though dance circles around them with my much greater grasp of both theoretical and applied biology.

Could someone not as well biologically informed as I was use the method I used to get an orchiectomy and colectomy as I did? My best guess, is, "Probably not."

I think that needs to be changed.
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janekane: Thanks for your thoughts! Based purely on numbers, it would seem like "neurotypical" is the norm and "autistic" is the disorder since there are far more people belonging to the former category. I guess maybe some of it depends on how you define "disorder." Can the majority be disordered while the few are normal?

Note: I discussed a significant portion of my childhood experiences on the blog that was part of the old blogs before they disappeared, so if you read that blog, you may have already heard some of this (and other childhood experiences I may have already discussed or will discuss in this blog) information.

I had an interesting conversation with my grandmother the other night. We were discussing the past, and I learned that it wasn't only girls' clothes that I was interested in as a young child. Apparently I also liked jewelry and other "pretty things." My grandmother also told me that she was not at all shocked when I told her I wanted to be a woman (as an adult). She said that the signs were there when I was young and that she could tell something like that would happen. However, she did confirm that I never explicitly said I was a girl or wanted to be a girl.

We know of course that I am male. I know that I am male. I was born male, and I cannot change that. However, I also see, especially with this new information from my grandmother, that female would have been a better fit for me. I told my grandmother during this conversation that if I could go back and choose my sex I would pick female, and that is basically how I feel. But I also told her the other side of my thoughts - I recognize I was born male, and that I have to make the best of it.

Most of my memories from early childhood seem to come in snippets rather than the detailed memories that others report. I'm not sure that it is fair to say that anything resembling a true childhood started until I went to live with my grandmother when I was 10. I remember reading somewhere that children's brains undergo a substantial portion of their development during the first ten years of life, so by that time it was of course too late.

I do remember that my early years were full of instability, both at home and in school. The only times I had a single teacher during the school year were kindergarten and fifth grade. I went to seven different elementary schools when I should have only gone to one (the grade level splits that make going to two or three different elementary schools more common today did not exist back then, at least not where I lived). I had two first-grade teachers, four second-grade teachers, two third-grade teachers, and three fourth-grade teachers (this was also before the switching teachers for different subjects format that is more common in elementary schools today was around, so I should have only had one teacher each year). I'm sure that my frequent changing of schools and classes did not do good things for my social skills.

While I was nothing extraordinary (I certainly was not studying college-level material in elementary school), it was clear that academic material was not a problem for me. I don't remember this, but I am told that I read "The Night Before Christmas" to my kindergarten class. This of course would be nothing unusual today - kindergartners are now expected to be able to read - but back then it was apparently something impressive.

I am actually told that I began to read at age 2, but I tend to doubt it since that would probably be on the extraordinary side, and the rest of my performance doesn't line up with that. Basically I am told I read store and street names at that age, but my guess is that I was merely recognizing them rather than actually reading them. I am also told that I read parts of TV Guide to my mother when I was 4.

I ended up getting sent to a second-grade classroom for reading when I was in first grade. I also remember being the "Around the World" (a popular math game) champion in my first-grade class. I was pretty much unbeatable at that game, both in first grade and in middle school.

While I don't think that my abilities would have been extraordinary regardless, I do sometimes wonder if they were impacted by the poverty I grew up in or other factors in my home life to the extent that they did not reach their full potential. During second grade I was referred by one of my teachers that year for intelligence testing for possible placement in what my mother told me was a "gifted school." However, since it was a public school, I tend to doubt the entire school was devoted to "gifted" students. It was more likely a "gifted class" like I see pretty frequently today that also happened to be at a new school. In any case, I was told that I missed the cutoff on the test by a couple of points. The referring teacher, however, pulled some strings and got me in anyway because he apparently felt I needed to be there. Is it possible that if my home life at the time had been better or if I grew up in a household with more resources that provided opportunities for academic pursuits that I would have made that cutoff?

The only that my academic performance suffered in elementary school was during third grade (at least in one of my classes). Suddenly for the first time I was earning poor grades. This was during the peak of my negative home life. I am almost certain that was the reason behind my decline. I don't remember liking this third-grade teacher (but I did like her read-alouds - she could do some great character voices), but I don't remember exactly why. She was an older woman, and I don't remember much about her other than her name, the fact that she gave me bad grades, and her read-alouds. I think maybe it was because she gave me bad grades without seeming to realize there were other things going on in my life that were affecting my academic performance.

I remember that the main reason behind my bad grades was not turning in work rather than submitting it and not doing well on it. I am not sure why I stopped turning in the work. Maybe I just didn't care anymore. Going from being excited about starting school and eager to learn when beginning kindergarten to finding it unpleasant at best by the time middle school begins is something that seems universal to almost everyone. Certainly to this day I do not find the academic world inspiring (that is a very nice way of putting it). I had an extremely difficult time motivating myself to get through college, and my unpleasant feelings about graduate school are even stronger. I have dropped out multiple times, and I still don't know if I will finish. It is difficult to feel inspired when the focus is on whether you can follow a particular "format" by placing a comma or period in the right place rather than on anything that actually matters and is relevant to life.

There is also the fact that motivation does not come easily to me when I am told that completing a particular task is mandatory, which is of course the foundation of the academic world. I majored in English during my undergraduate studies. While I love reading great works of literature for pleasure and reflecting on them, being told that I had to read a certain book at a certain time drained most of the fun out of it. Even worse was telling me that I had to write a ten-page paper on the book and that points would be deducted for not following that infamous format if a period or comma was out of place rather than judging my work based on its content. The same has applied to graduate school. While there are certain topics I have studied that I would not be opposed to reading about and reflecting on during my own time, being told that I have to read these pages and discuss them in this particular way just doesn't do it for me.

But to get back on topic, my home life was not very stable either. The cause of me going to so many different schools was of course moves from place to place, which probably did not do much for my social life either. There were also many different adult figures who lived in the different places, which doesn't create a sense of stability. However, since this post is getting long, I suppose additional childhood memories should be saved for another time. :)
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My experiences continue to provide me with a glimpse of how different I am from other males. Last week I had the opportunity to participate in a summer camp as a counselor. While the experience was enjoyable, I do not feel that I bonded very well with the boys who were in my group. To be fair, there were non-gender related factors working against me:

- The boys were older than the age range I prefer working with. There was one 9-year-old, but most of them were 11. I am at my best when working with children age 8 or younger. My personality, especially when interacting with children, tends to be very gentle and nurturing. Younger children can appreciate this, but older children tend to find it weird. I don't have the "hip" element to my personality that is needed to relate to older children and teenagers.

- Most of the boys had participated in the camp before and knew each other well. I was one of few newcomers at the camp.

- My co-counselor was very outgoing, and the boys already knew him from prior years. When I am around people who are more outgoing than I am, I withdraw more than usual. I am also not a big fan of the team thing since I prefer to do things my way when I am working with children, but in today's society I suppose there are times it is necessary when around children.

However, despite all of these factors, I could tell that my personality was different from those of the boys, and it does seem that gender was part of the reason why. These boys seemed very much like stereotypical males. They were constantly hitting one another. Boys seem to like to do that, but as I have mentioned before, I was never into fighting or wrestling when I was growing up. The boys also had a fascination with fart jokes. While I am sure that enjoyment of fart jokes is not limited to the male gender, it does seem to be associated more with males, especially with boys. They were also very rowdy in general, something that was not true for me when growing up and is still not true now. My co-counselor also had a rowdy side, although it was more mature since he was older. He would sometimes wrestle with the boys. Overall, I could tell that the boys related to him much more than they did me.

At the end of camp the 9-year-old told me that I should come back next year, which was probably the closest thing that made me feel like I had bonded with someone. This boy did have something of a sensitive side - he cried at one point and could become deeply involved in prayer. However, he was definitely all boy other than a slight sensitive side, and despite what he said, I still don't feel that he and I bonded all that well. None of the other boys said that to me or even goodbye.

This boy and I did spend a lot of time playing sports-type games, and I wonder if maybe this is what males consider to be bonding. For me bonding is more about having conversations and sharing thoughts and feelings with one another. If activities did have to be part of the bonding, my preference would be imaginative, cooperative games rather than athletic or competitive games.

It is pretty clear to me that in my job I relate better to the girls than the boys (even among younger children, although younger boys tend to like me more than older boys). Most of the closest bonds I have formed have been with girls, and this of course has gotten me into heaps of trouble. The assumption is that I am trying to molest them. Apparently if I were bonding with boys, there would be no way I could be trying to molest them.

Some have suggested that I am a good male role model, but I wonder if this in fact true. Assuming they mean for boys, I lean towards probably not. Boys need someone that can relate to their rowdiness and can teach them to channel it in a positive direction. In the unlikely event that I ever have a child of my own, I would prefer a daughter over a son because I feel I can be a better parent to a girl than I could be to a boy.

Yes, it is clear that my brain did not get the flood of T that I was supposed to get in the womb and/or during infancy. Physical proof of this is also something I have mentioned before - my equal ring and index finger length. Yet I did receive enough T to identify as male and as straight. Strange, isn't it?
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I have been reading the book "Asperger's on the Job" by Rudy Simone. While I cannot relate to everything that is in the book, a lot of it describes me very well. I suspect those parts I do not relate to as well have to do with the more common NT and/or J Asperger's varieties (Myers-Briggs NT, not "neurotypical"). I especially cannot relate to needing ritual and routine in the workplace. While I do like ritual and routine in some aspects of my personal life, I cannot stand it in my professional life. The more variety that is part of my job, the happier I am.

I recently finished reading one of the chapters that I do feel describes me well, which is called "Don't Tell Them Where You Heard This, But..." This may be in fact the most useful chapter I have read so far. It talks about how those with Asperger's often become the subject of gossip among coworkers. This is absolutely true for me, and after reading this chapter, I think I understand why.

While the children at my workplace loved me, I was not accepted by many of my coworkers. Simone suggests that those with Asperger's do not display normal social behavior, which causes them to stand apart from the crowd and leads to speculation by coworkers. This speculation leads to gossip and rumors. The child molester rumor was only one of many rumors about me that traveled around my workplace. I was pretty much the constant subject of some kind of gossip, right up until the end of the last work period.

It is a battle I have fought for the last couple years, but I think I am finally ready to throw in the towel. Simone writes the following: "Once an air of tension is created in the workplace, for the person with AS, that usually spells the beginning of the end. Many have left jobs they liked, even loved, because they couldn't get along with their coworkers."

These words help me realize that I am not alone. This situation has happened to others who have Asperger's. I also realize that Simone's words are a good description of what I have to do. This workplace will always have a special place in my heart, and I don't know that working anywhere else will ever feel the same, but it is time for me to move on. Many have been giving me the message that I am not wanted there for some time now, and it is time I accept it.

My plan is to return to what I did during my first year doing this job, which was working at a different place every day. This chapter of the book suggests that "familiarity breeds contempt." Those with Asperger's may be able to appear normal to others at first, but eventually they let their guard down and become themselves. So it seems that perhaps having people get to know them better might work against those with Asperger's rather than in their favor. Returning to a situation where I am working with strangers on a daily basis who do not have the chance to get to know how strange I really am may be for the best.
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The more I go through life, the more I am realizing just how different I am from other people. It isn't just men, although I do feel I am particularly different from them. I think all of my life I have been searching for someone who understands me, and so far I have come up short. I don't really think it matters to me whether this hypothetical relationship is in the context of romantic love (I continue to think that a traditional romantic relationship probably is not in the cards for me, in no small part due to the fact that it isn't what I want). In fact, many times I have said I am searching for just a friend who understands me like no one else does. Back in high school, I kept a journal from time to time, and one of the entries described how much I wanted a best friend but was having such a difficult time finding one. I suppose that is still true today.

Because of this need to connect with another human being on such a deep level, I often find myself trying to get close to everyone I meet. In reality close relationships are very rare, and most people seem to recognize this. They don't think everyone they meet is going to become a close friend. Lately I am wondering if most people in fact do not want close friends and prefer to have many casual acquaintances instead. I think each time I meet someone new who may be a little bit similar to me, I get my hopes up. As I mentioned in another post on this site, introversion can be especially deceiving. I tend to think that if someone is introverted, they may have many other things in common with my personality as well.

I recently met another male who seems to be on the introverted side (but lately I am doubting this because he does seem to prefer to socialize in larger groups), and at first we seemed to have things in common. I thought maybe he was someone I could get close to, and I opened up a little. One problem with me seems to be that when I am trying to get close to someone, I open up too much, too soon. Now that some more time has passed, I am not so sure that we will grow as close as I hoped. We had lunch together a couple of times, and recently I invited him out again for lunch. He ended up inviting some other friends as well, and I was quite upset about this as I intended for the lunch to involve just us two. He did the same thing again after that. He definitely does not seem to be as interested in hanging out with just me as I am with him.

It seems that most people, including this guy, love to socialize in large groups. I am certainly not one of them. I prefer to socialize one-on-one. There is a huge difference in my demeanor based on the size of the group I am socializing with. The larger the group, the more reserved I am. I am at my best when talking to only one other person. I can actually be quite talkative and energetic in this situation. But I suppose that for most people, going to a social event means inviting as many people as possible. Large group socializing is very draining for me, while socializing with one other person is energizing and pleasant.

So at this point I am not going to get my hopes up too much more than he and I will form any kind of bond. It seems that he just considers me a casual friend that is part of a big group of friends. Based on some things I have said and the way he has reacted, I also don't necessarily think we have as much in common as I initially thought.

Sometimes I wish I could just turn off my emotions. They are so intense, and having them seems to leave me disappointed. They even get me in trouble at work. I find someone who touches my heart, and I begin to care too much then end up in trouble for not being able to respect professional boundaries that require me to turn off my feelings. Another reason I have decided to branch out to different locations is that aside from fewer problems with coworkers, there will also be virtually no risk of caring too much and getting in trouble.

I have realized that there is no one out there I could tell my deepest, darkest secrets to. I am just not that close to anyone, and it seems that I need to accept that I probably never will be. It seems that no one will ever be able to see into my heart and understand the powerful emotions that whirl inside of it. Yes, I feel that I am all alone in this world.
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It is natural, I suppose, for people to need a sense of meaning in life. Certainly for me this seems to be the case. I don't want life to be a string of disjointed experiences that are nothing more than the products of chance; I instead prefer to discover the grand purpose behind it all. Indeed, I have never believed in coincidences. It seems to me that everything that happens to us from the people we meet to the places we visit to the experiences we endure all are meant to be. Of course, the materialists among us would argue that my perspective is nothing more than the need of my human brain to see connections among what are really random occurrences. Logically, this makes sense, but given that I am a feeler, it is difficult to allow my logical side to win.

Perhaps this perspective of mine is actually healthy for me since it is during those times when I begin to doubt whether my life really has any purpose or meaning that thoughts of suicide tend to creep in. Materialists would once again argue that it is nothing more than evolutionary mechanisms at play since we can't have people killing themselves because they don't think life has meaning. The time in my life when I was most suicidal was back when I was an atheist. Perhaps some people's brains are simply better evolutionally wired than others to enjoy life while accepting the materialist perspective.

I also thought of suicide back when I was working a corporate-like job (it wasn't a true corporate job since it wasn't in a traditional corporate office, but it was still in the business world). I have been theorizing, and I think I understand now why most people are able to tolerate working corporate jobs. They have families. It is their families that provide the sense of meaning and purpose in their lives. They work a job they don't particularly like during the day, but they go home to their families, and that is what gives them joy and fulfillment. That would also explain why most people look forward to time off and dread going back to work while for me it is the opposite - I dread the time off and can't wait to get back to work (however, I was like most people when I worked the corporate-like job - in fact, I hated it so much that toward the end, I was stacking way too many days off just to get away from there).

With me being a single guy, I don't have the family to come home to, and so I must turn to my job to provide purpose to my life. Lately, however, I have been wondering if it will continue to provide the same kind of meaning that it always has. While this is not the exclusive reason that I enjoy the job, much of what I always looked forward to was the bonds that I would form with individuals I worked with and the resulting opportunity to have a positive impact on someone's life. With that having gotten me into trouble, I now recognize that it can never happen again. To reduce the risk of it happening, I understand that I will never be able to work at a regular location again but will instead need to float from location to location the way I did when I first started the job. I will therefore only see most individuals I work with for a single day, and I will probably no longer feel that I am having the chance to make a difference. Will I still find the job to be as meaningful as it was before? I suppose that only time will tell.

Recently I have discovered a new hobby that I am pursuing in my free time. It is actually quite time-consuming, but I am finding that I enjoy it and look forward to going despite the amount of time and energy that it requires. I am already making plans to continue doing it once this round is over. Is it possible that this could be something that will provide meaning outside of work? This is another topic on which we will need to wait to hear from time.

The good thing is that while I can be pessimistic and negative about day-to-day matters, I have always been surprisingly optimistic about the big picture. I can't stop believing that things will work out for that grand purpose and that I still have unfinished work to do in my life. I suppose this optimism is what has kept me fighting for so long.
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Primarily because of the request of a co-worker/friend, I recently went out on a date. The general consensus is that the date probably did not go well. While we seemed to have no trouble making conversation (though I did not necessarily feel that we were "clicking"), she made an excuse about needing to get work done almost immediately after I paid the dinner bill. She in no way thanked me for the date, paying for dinner, or holding the door open for her as we entered the restaurant (it is tricky in this day and age to determine whether to do this - some women expect it while others are offended by it, but I decided to do it since my understanding from the co-worker/friend was that she is old-fashioned). But probably the biggest indicator that it did not go well was her silence when I asked her via Facebook about another date. I have since unfriended her as potential dating was the only reason for the friendship, and she does not seem like a nice person (I am not typically a big manners person, but a "thank you" seems appropriate even if she did not enjoy the date).

While at least I was not stood up after a long drive like the last time I attempted a date, this situation nonetheless does not help me feel good about dating. It is difficult to tell whether it was the nature of our conversation that turned her off (though I did not feel we would be particularly compatible based on that either, but I agreed to ask her out again and give it a second chance at the request of the co-worker/friend) or whether she decided she was not attracted to me physically, perhaps because of my eunuchoid features. She wasn't a supermodel herself, but I have also seen much worse. If there is a numerical system that rates attractiveness, I would say our numbers were close to the same.

After discussing the date with the co-worker/friend who suggested it, I did something surprising, which was come out to her as a eunuch. I did not use the words "eunuch," "testicles," or "castrated," but the way I described it could really leave no doubt. I mentioned that I had no testosterone because of "parts" that were removed and thus very little, if any, sex drive. I was truthful in that I said it was voluntary and because at the time I believed I wanted to be a woman. Coming out to her wasn't something I was intending to do, and she is the first person I have ever told outside of relatives, doctors, and this website, but it happened. Fortunately, she is someone I am 99% sure I can trust.

My reason for coming out was because she suggested that I keep trying to date, and I wanted to explain to her why a traditional relationship is not something I have a significant interest in pursuing and why even if I did, it probably would not work. It's the first time I have told someone in real life about why a relationship is not high on my priorities list, and I suppose it is something I was bound to tell someone sooner or later.

We talked more about what kind of relationship I was interested in pursuing, and I ended up realizing some things about myself that have me very interested in discovering the nature of my sexuality and what I am looking for in a relationship.

We basically came to the conclusion that what I am probably looking for is one of those so-called "platonic" relationships. I want deep emotional intimacy and perhaps some forms of physical intimacy, but I am not particularly interested in sex. This is of course true now because of my eunuch status, but I am now curious as to whether this may have always been the case for me, even before I became a eunuch.

My landlord (who is another person I ended up telling about not wanting a traditional relationship, but not about being a eunuch) suggested that I might be asexual. She didn't know how right she was, but probably not for the reasons she was thinking. She seemed to be suggesting it was my natural sexual orientation rather than for medical reasons.

My experiences prior to being a eunuch can probably rule this out because I did have sexual feelings back then, and I still do when I resume taking T.

But while I did experience feelings, I never seemed to have a need to act on them, at least not outside of myself. I masturbated much like any other young man (although I did not begin until 16, which seems rather late), but I never showed much interest in traditional sex or even dating. I was never sexually aggressive with girls or women my age, nor did I ever initiate any flirting. I did once have a friend tell a girl that I was physically interested in her, and I told another one myself, but I felt the latter was more platonic.

To be fair, girls/women never showed much interest in me either, and some might argue that this could have somehow contributed to low self-esteem that masked an otherwise traditional interest in sex and dating.

However, the one time that I did go on a date as a teenager (with someone I met online, one of those "desperate" types that I tend to attract), I never pursued any sort of physical intimacy with her. We did hold hands for a brief time, but that was as far as it went. Near the end of the date she was standing there across from me for some time, and it seemed pretty clear she wanted something more to happen, but I never initiated anything.

Some could argue that it was once again low self-esteem/shyness that was the culprit rather than a lack of interest, but I also recall how pornography has never really done anything for me. Almost all men seem to have some degree of interest in it, but even when I had testosterone, it just never really turned me on. A group of guys at school that I sometimes hung out with would stand around looking at pornography-filled magazines, and I would stand off to the side because it wasn't something I was particularly interested in.

Kissing doesn't seem to hold any special interest for me either (although to be fair, that could be because of my eunuch status). Traditional sex has rarely been a part of my masturbatory fantasies, even before becoming a eunuch.

I often thought and wrote of an intense longing for a best friend when growing up, but I did not speak much of wanting a girlfriend. Perhaps this suggests that my idea of romantic relationships (I hesitate to use the term "romantic" because my interpretation has always assumed the involvement of sexual attraction, but recent research I have conducted suggests this is not necessarily so) is more platonic than sexual. Certainly now as a eunuch I would almost certainly prefer a platonic relationship to its sexual counterpart. I do enjoy hugs, hand-holding, and perhaps cuddling a great deal, but I don't have a need for much more physical intimacy. Even no physical contact could probably be acceptable provided there was a strong emotional bond.

Can I find this kind of relationship? Are there people (I imagine that gender would not matter in a true platonic relationship, although I always imagined that best friend would be female) looking for such a relationship? The co-worker/friend said the woman I dated would probably not accept my eunuch status and would be looking for a more traditional relationship but also said that platonic relationships and even marriages are not out of the question. My landlord mentioned that apparently there are websites designed to find partners who are looking for the kind of relationship I imagine (although one I looked at involves giving a description of various physical features, which doesn't make sense to me if the relationship is platonic), so perhaps I should give it a try.
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Re: Taking the Plunge.....Again

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I have been thinking (certainly the inspiration behind most of these posts), and I have realized that perhaps I was unfair in my earlier criticisms of the academic world. The acquisition of knowledge is a beautiful endeavor that I may have attacked too hastily with disregard for the proper reasons for my disdain. It may not be so much that I do not see value in academic pursuits and perhaps even the mandatory tasks that accompany the institutionalized version of such as that I simply lost my personal motivation to succeed academically.

I have mentioned previously that motivation has been a struggle for me for many years, and the question of why is something that has haunted me just as long. Signs that would tend to predict academic excellence were present from my early childhood. I (supposedly) began reading at age 2. There were times when I completed my work in either an advanced class or in an advanced group ahead of the rest of the class. An examination of memorabilia from my childhood reveals that I earned numerous awards for academic performance in both elementary and middle school, including a special award that offered the privilege of wearing a gold cord during middle school graduation for making principal's honor roll every term for three years. My standardized test scores placed me in the 90th+ percentile in many categories, including some as high as the 99th percentile. My grades throughout most of elementary school (minu
plix (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:07 pm s during the peak of my negative home life
in third grade) were superb, and that was generally true during middle school as well.

Various remarks and actions from my teachers also suggested that I had significant academic potential. My fourth grade teacher noted on my report card: "Plix is obviously extremely strong intellectually." As I mentioned, one of my second grade teachers pulled the necessary strings to place me in a gifted class despite my not scoring above the cutoff on the test because he felt it was were I belonged.

My middle school teachers wrote the following in my yearbooks:

"You are a fantastic student."

"Keep up the good work."

"Keep following your goals - you will be successful."

"You have a great mind and are a strong problem solver. You can be whatever you want to be. Your future is very bright."

"I have no doubt you will be a great success in high school and beyond."

My fellow students seemed to recognize my academic potential as well:

"You're smart."

"Don't change your work habits. You gonna be real successful one day."

"Congratulations on your good work and awards."

It is clear I showed a great deal of promise academically. Given this history, one might suppose I went on to attend a top-ranked college and am now in the middle of a lucrative career. However, somewhere along the way, something went wrong, and my performance fizzled. To this day, I have not figured out exactly what happened. I suppose it was not an instantaneous occurrence. It was more of a gradual loss of interest in excelling academically the way I did during my younger years. My grades, while overall likely still considered "good," slipped in high school. Instead of the 4.0 average I carried in elementary school and the nearly 4.0 average I carried in middle school, I graduated from high school with a 3.4 GPA. That it was this high is surprising giving the lack of effort I put into my work. I did not complete the infamous senior project in my senior English class, which I was apparently misleadingly informed was required for graduation. I just did not care enough to do it. I earned a B- in the class as a result, with which I was content. I also did not complete the final project in my art history class. I can still recall the gasps of my fellow students when they heard the "smart guy" tell the teacher "I didn't do it." I correctly calculated that not submitting the project would drop me to a B- in the class, and I was again content with this grade.

What may seem like nothing more than a typical case of "senioritis" was also present in earlier years. It started during my freshman year when, for the first time in my academic career, I earned a "D" on a final report card. Because of fears that it would not count toward prerequisite requirements for college admission, I later retook the course and earned an "A," which suggests what I am capable of when I really want to achieve it. I also earned multiple "Cs." Progress reports in high school consistently warned that I "may receive a grade below potential." This is almost certainly a form response issued to all students who may earn a low grade, but in my case it was perhaps a bit more true.

I began high school having qualified for honors classes due to my middle school performance, but after my sophomore year I decided I wanted something easier and abandoned these classes for standard classes. I think this, along with my willingness to "settle" for "Bs" instead of the "As" of my younger years, is perhaps indicative of what the problem was. I no longer cared about superior academic performance. I was content with being average, with just doing well enough to scrape by rather than excelling.

This attitude carried over into college. While in my early high school years I dreamed of attending highly-ranked schools, perhaps even an Ivy League school (despite my disadvantageous and perhaps prohibitive socioeconomic background), I later realized this would not be an option due to my academic performance in high school. However, I was content with knowing I would attend a lower-ranked state school. I did apply to one of the more prestigious "UC" schools (and this was the most prestigious school I applied to) but was rejected. The only "UC" school I was accepted to is probably at the bottom of the list. I ended up deciding to attend a "CSU" school, which, according to my understanding, are "lower" than the "UC" schools. Geographical considerations did play a role in deciding to attend this school over the "UC" school I was accepted to, but I think that I also thought the school I selected would be easier, and I wanted to just get by rather than excel. My grades in college reflected that attitude, and I graduated with a slightly lower 3.2 GPA.

There were some positives in both high school and college, which seemingly suggest that I did not lose sight of my goals entirely despite my lack of motivation to achieve them. I performed so well in my United States history course that my teacher had to discard my grade from the curve he used to prevent everyone else from failing. In my physiology class, I tied the highest ever score on the final examination and had this acknowledged before the class. I started college with the decision to major in philosophy and later pursue a doctorate and perhaps an academic career. Eventually, I lost the motivation that excited me when I first developed this goal. In one of the last philosophy courses I took, there was a two-question essay examination. I earned a nearly perfect score on the first question but failed the test because I omitted an answer to the second question entirely. I simply did not care enough.

It seems to me that the nature of the problem has been established. As I matured, I no longer cared about good academic performance. I was content with just passing my classes, getting my degree that would supposedly make me more money (it seems that the pursuit of money is more important than the pursuit of knowledge among modern college students), and figuring out what to do with my life from there. But how could that happen to someone who showed so much promise, someone whose fellow students and teachers were so certain would be a success one day? That is what continues to perplex me.

The problem was not the inability to do well with academic work but the lack of motivation to give it my best effort. This lack of motivation, however, is not restricted solely to academics, and it continues into the present day. I am great at developing goals, but my ability to find the motivation to actually work toward them is lackluster. There are so many things I would like to do someday. I would like to become a published writer, I would like to walk across the country, I would like to learn to play a musical instrument, and so much more. Will I ever achieve any of these? Unless my motivation improves, it seems unlikely.

Where did it all begin? As we all know, my childhood was far from ideal, and my parents far from perfect. Could this be to blame? My parents, like most American parents, insisted that I receive good grades in school, but that was the extent of their nurturing me intellectually. Neither my parents nor my grandparents are particularly well-educated, and they do not, to the best of my knowledge, embark on pursuits that would be considered intellectual or academic in nature. It is interesting to think about what might have been had I grown up in a family that did value education and the nurture of the intellect more than mine did.

Yet, despite my early home not being particularly intellectual, I somehow managed to thrive in school. Does this suggest that the ability to perform academically is inborn and not influenced by environment? Or perhaps that any environmental influences that are present are limited in effectiveness according to one's innate tendencies?

There is also the question of how my negative home experiences may have influenced my loss of motivation to excel in later years. I am not particularly fond of the "chemical imbalance" theory of depression, but perhaps as low motivation is often said to be a symptom of depression, my life circumstances (rather than a chemical imbalance) contributed to a form of depression that left me without the motivation to succeed. If this is true, is the lack of motivation reversible, and if so, how would I reverse it (other than through medication, of course)?

The other clinical explanation for my low motivation could be a schizophrenic disorder, as low motivation is said to be a "negative" symptom of disorders on this spectrum. Indeed, one therapist from my past diagnosed me with a schizophrenic spectrum disorder (I am fairly certain that she, like all the other therapists I have seen, did not consider an autistic spectrum disorder as a diagnosis). The DSM, however, seems to imply that schizophrenic spectrum disorders and autistic spectrum disorders are mutually exclusive. If you are diagnosed with one, you cannot have the other. However, I will admit that I do seem to display symptoms related to both. An autistic spectrum disorder would not explain the paranoia and unusual thinking, but a schizophrenic spectrum disorder would not explain the repetitive, stereotyped movements (to borrow from the DSM).

Recent research has led me to discover there is apparently a rare disorder known as "schizotypal autism," and this disorder does allow for the presence of both autistic and schizophrenic symptoms. Perhaps this is the correct diagnosis for me. In any case, if the low motivation is indeed due to something schizophrenic in nature rather than depressive, my understanding (at least the last time I looked into it, which admittedly was some time ago) is that there is no treatment for the "negative" symptoms of schizophrenic disorders. That could spell bad news for me and my future. However, given my inner strength and optimistic nature, I simply cannot accept there is no hope and have to believe there is a way to overcome this lack of motivation, whatever the cause.

It is frustrating now to look back on my academic performance and realize how much better I could have done. It does seem that I squandered a great deal of potential and fell short of what I was supposed to accomplish. I have no doubt that had I wanted to, I could have earned a much higher GPA in both high school and college. Indeed, my last semester of college, in perhaps a reversal of the "senioritis" that is common in high school, saw me decide to apply some effort and earn all "As" that term. Better academic performance would have probably led me to a more successful, at least financially, life. While I can dream about what might have been had I not lost my motivation, it is of course too late to do anything about my poor academic performance. The grades are on my transcripts, and they cannot be erased. So the question becomes what can I do now to reverse course and start achieving my goals?
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Re: Taking the Plunge.....Again

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It's been a while since I've posted! I'm not sure how much interest there is in this blog, but just in case there is some, I thought I'd go ahead and give an update. :)

Hormonally speaking, I still haven't managed to stick with one course of action. I started taking T again in 2015 and took it on and off until fall of that year when I took it until March of this year. From March 2017 until about a week ago, I took no HRT.

I recently began taking 50 mg of DHEA daily. If you don't consider DHEA to be a form of HRT, then I am still not taking any hormones. I did this because I remain concerned about the effects of being on nothing over the long-term. I'm hoping for more energy, stronger cognitive abilities, and less depression. Perhaps now that I am older, I notice all of those things more when I am taking nothing (although to be fair, my mood has recently stabilized - the depression could have just been the result of crashing hormone levels).

I have considered resuming taking T, and I've also thought about taking E again. T seems to be the most logical choice given that I am male, but whether it is a good idea is another matter. I was certainly reminded of the reason I stopped taking T as well as other issues the last time I took it. But my levels were quite high, even on just one pump of gel. I suspect this is because my skin has become so thin over the years from not being exposed to T, certainly much thinner than the average male's skin.

Is it possible that if I had more proper T levels, I wouldn't notice those issues as much? It's difficult, of course, to find a doctor competent enough in the administration of T to really know what he is doing and be capable of getting me on a proper regimen.

Would I be happy if I started taking E again? I suspect I would be, despite the fact that I identify as male, but there are social consequences of doing so that would leave me hesitant to make that decision.

Of course, when it comes to DHEA, my understanding is that it can go either way, so I may end up with more T or E in my system. I will be monitoring to try to determine which hormone I may be getting more of.

As far as other areas of life? I'm still working the job that I absolutely love. Indeed, it's my dream job, and I expect I will be doing it until I retire. Fortunately, I've discovered various types of freelance work that should make working this job more financially feasible.

I recently embarked on a couple of adventures that were challenging but fulfilling. One of them was last summer, and this was probably the more fulfilling of the two, perhaps because I actually finished that one. The more recent one was earlier this year, and I ended up having to give it up sooner than I intended.

I also started a project related to the hobby I mentioned in post #120. That hobby has become a big part of my life. So far the project is going pretty well despite a few bumps in the road.

I'd like to think that I am older and wiser than I was those 12 years ago when I first came to this site, and perhaps in some ways I am, but there are also things that never change. I still have great difficulty with sticking on one path for any real length of time, whether it comes to hormones or just about anything else in life. I suspect that rather than being an age-related issue, this is an ingrained personality trait that will be with me for a long time to come.

One of the ways in which I am quite whimsical is in choosing a place to live. Perhaps that is what led to my ill-fated adventure earlier this year. But the fact that I am once again settled in one place doesn't mean I am content with that. Choosing between the big city and the little city was no easy task. The project that I began, however, is headqaurtered in the little city, and since it is important to me to see that project through, the little city is where I am living. A thirst for the big city remains inside of me though. But the thing is, if I were living in the big city, I'd have that same thirst for where I'm living now!

I've discovered some things about myself over these last few years that have led to a better understanding of my sexuality and what kind of relationship it is that I seem to be looking for. I'm not as naive as I used to be about my motivations for doing the things I do. I strongly believe that those motivations are genuine, but I'm no longer naive enough to believe they are my only motivations.

Love is a wonderful thing. When you love someone, you care deeply about her well-being and are willing to sacrifice your own needs and desires to meet those of the recipient of your love. But it isn't entirely selfless. That person makes you happy beyond anything you have ever experienced before. You feel a strange yet pleasant tug in your heart whenever you think of that person. You also experience a whirlwind of warm and fuzzy emotions in your mind whenever you hear her name. Your life seems emptier somehow when that person is not around.

Indeed, I think it was that realization that led me to realize I love her. Some time ago, I entertained the possibility of moving back to my home state. But I realized that if I did, something would be missing there despite how bright and sunny that state is, and that something would be her. My home state would somehow be a darker, emptier place because she wasn't there. That's when I knew.

Love is also a painful thing. I haven't seen her in over a year, and chances are I'll never see her again. Maybe someday I won't love her anymore. Maybe I'm already headed in that direction. But for now, I still experience a great deal of pain over this situation. I still miss her so much, and I'd still give anything to see her just one more time.

But maybe it's for the best that I probably won't see her again. People change. There's no guarantee I'd feel anything for her anymore, and there's certainly no guarantee she misses me or feels anything for me.

Despite all the pain, though, I'm so glad I had the opportunity to experience love. It's one of the best feelings a person can ever have. :)
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plix (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:04 pm Love is a wonderful thing. When you love someone, you care deeply about her well-being and are willing to sacrifice your own needs and desires to meet those of the recipient of your love. But it isn't entirely selfless. That person makes you happy beyond anything you have ever experienced before. You feel a strange yet pleasant tug in your heart whenever you think of that person. You also experience a whirlwind of warm and fuzzy emotions in your mind whenever you hear her name. Your life seems emptier somehow when that person is not around.

Indeed, I think it was that realization that led me to realize I love her. Some time ago, I entertained the possibility of moving back to my home state. But I realized that if I did, something would be missing there despite how bright and sunny that state is, and that something would be her. My home state would somehow be a darker, emptier place because she wasn't there. That's when I knew.

Love is also a painful thing. I haven't seen her in over a year, and chances are I'll never see her again. Maybe someday I won't love her anymore. Maybe I'm already headed in that direction. But for now, I still experience a great deal of pain over this situation. I still miss her so much, and I'd still give anything to see her just one more time.

I am glad for you that you had the opportunities to feel those emotions. If they were your first please remember the will not be your last.
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Plix: don't dis-pare. At almost 60 I consider it a privilege That I had found what I consider love twice during my lifetime.

Far different than lust which becoming completely nullo pretty much eliminated. Lust can be a fun but dangerous thing

while love can be a absolutely wonderful thing. If I've found love twice there is no reason why it cannot be so for anybody else.

Still in love with both. The first one fell out of love with me if she ever had it. Due to the desire to be nullo no doubt. But the

second love has endured over 20 years and continues to be that all inclusive satisfying experience for both of us. This time around

it is with a him rather than a her. So it can be either or both since love is in the heart and mind rather than physical relationships.

Hang in there and let life happen.
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