One Day in the Life of a Wolf - Memorial 7-25-20

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Ask that social worker for help, tell her what you have done and ask her for her expert advice to help the problem. Make her show her work, I have the feeling that she will run.

Those people can only find fault with others, embrace it and make it her problem as well.

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After I visited mom today to give her an update on the house, a hospital social worker pulled me aside and asked if I wanted to seek conservatorship over mom. She said, "the doctors here have declared her to be incompetent to manage her own affairs and not competent to sign a loan application."

Hence my efforts to seek a $5,000 Line of Credit are now fruitless. She with the credit can't sign and me, the unemployed one can sign but nobody would loan me money as I have no job, savings left or much tangible property.

Maybe once I get the conservatorship I can get a loan in her name.

My next step is looking for a cheaply priced "para-legal" considering those forms are a bitch to fill out "competently."
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Keep plugging away at it. You're doing better than I would have expected anyone to be able to do under the circumstances. Try to locate a local branch of AARP to help you with the paperwork. --FLO--
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MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:35 am After I visited mom today to give her an update on the house, a hospital social worker pulled me aside and asked if I wanted to seek conservatorship over mom. She said, "the doctors here have declared her to be incompetent to manage her own affairs and not competent to sign a loan application."

Hence my efforts to seek a $5,000 Line of Credit are now fruitless. She with the credit can't sign and me, the unemployed one can sign but nobody would loan me money as I have no job, savings left or much tangible property.

Maybe once I get the conservatorship I can get a loan in her name.

My next step is looking for a cheaply priced "para-legal" considering those forms are a bitch to fill out "competently."

Look for a local office of the "We The People" para legal system. They provide an excellent service, produce good documents, and explain how to file them. Essentially, you act as your own lawyer, and they prepare the paper work for you for a reasonable fee.

On the other hand, Take mom out on a day trip to the bank, sign the loans, to hell with the docs. They're not going to the bank.
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Mac -contact the nearest University and talk to their Entymologist (Insects) Expert and after You talked with him for his guidance ,make it -if You can - a School Project of theirs - that wont cost You a thing .. N3RF
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I'm looking forward to Monday for one more reason.

This coming Monday I had already planned to check the "situations wanted" in the newspaper, the local senior center and local law offices to search out a para-legal to aid me in filling out the "conservatorship" paperwork. Tho cost of working with a para-legal is supposedly from $50 to $250 per hour..ouch.

Now I have an added incentive. The social worker at the nursing home told me if I didn't get the conservatorship done soon enough, she would apply for a state conservatorship over my mom leaving me out in the cold.

Also Monday, or Tuesday, I'll see mom's doctor to see if she can be transferred to one of his nursing home facilities. She trusts her family doctor.
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Search Google under "conservatorship document" and You get lots ..N3RF
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Mac--

The hospital's doctors may have declared your mother to be incompetent, but only a court (not sure which one in CA) can actually make the determination as a matter of law. Don't take the social worker's word for anything--he or she is probably trying to manipulate you in some way, and assuming you are gullible.

One thing you should do--assuming that there has been no legal determination that your mother is incompetent--is to have her sign papers to give you power of attorney over her financial affairs, if she is willing to do that. This takes a lot less paperwork than a conservatorship does, and--again assuming that she is still considered competent by the legal system--all it takes is her notarized signature on the documents. These are relatively simple to fill out and to understand, and do-it-yourself legal stores all have them. If you've ever had much to do with financial matters, you may have signed one or more of them yourself in the past. The power of attorney doesn't have to be approved by a court or any other official as long as your mother was considered competent at the time the papers were signed. They can be written so that the power of attorney takes effect at the time she signs them. Take the papers and a notary to the facility where she's lodging, and she could sign them right there and the notary could notarize the documents. A power of attorney would enable you to do most of what you could do if you were granted the conservatorship. The state could try to prove that your mother was incompetent at the time she signed the papers, but this takes testimony by several doctors as well as other evidence, and a good lawyer can delay a determination of competnecy for months or years. Getting power of attorney doesn't preclude the courts from granting conservatorship to you, so you should also apply to get the conservatorship.

Even if the state gets a conservatorship over her affairs, the power of attorney may still give you some rights over assets she had at the time you were granted the power of attorney, although, depending largely on case law in California, the state might be able to do what it wants with income she receives after the state gets the conservatorship.

I would guess that, if the state gets conservatorship, that is tantamount to giving your mother a life sentence in a nursing home, something that I don't think either she or you would want. A lot of people in nursing homes would like to get out, but don't have the means to do it, and a considerable number of them view the nursing home as a kind of prison. I know one of my relatives does.

As to the roaches, common sense says that, if you're killing them on a continuing basis and their numbers don't decrease, then the bugs must either be migrating into your residence from elsewhere, or else they are reproducing at an unnaturally high rate. They have to be eating something, and if you can reduce or eliminate their food supply, that should have an effect on the population of them. Bugs love dirt--what looks like dirt to you, may look like breakfast, lunch, and dinner to them. I don't know offhand if roaches can eat house dust (which is largely made up of human skin, and is actually supposed to be quite nutritious) but if they do, a very thorough housecleaning might help. If the roaches are coming in from outside the house, you'll have to figure out a way to stop their entry. In any case, if there is a ready food supply for the insects, tenting probably will keep them down only for a few weeks or months, and then you'll be right back where you are.

I don't know if the stuff is still available--I haven't seen it for years, and never had occasion to use it--but places like Home Depot used to sell some kind of fumigation compound in pressure cans. According to what it said on the can, you would put at least one pressure can in every room in the house, start them all spraying, then vacate the place for several hours. I have no idea if the fumigant actually killed the bugs, but I saw it for sale in several different places. I'm not sure it was for roaches, either.

Good luck with your mother's situation. Obviously, you've sacrificed a lot to try to make her last years happier.
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Well the Notary used to cost $1 in Maryland and later I got $3 supposedly. I just had mine renewed and have to pick it up and sign the book. It was aproved by the new Governor.

On the Topic of Mom, she is the same age as my wife, and my wife is sharp as a tack and we take our Vitamins and Minerals so that is the way to stay healthy as can be. So get MOM on a Health "cure" and You will se a happy MOM when she enjoys the day and things she likes.

Yes the Prison that the Social System puts people in, "oldagehomes" what ever they are called, is a terrible thing, and it is probably not true that the "doctors" wanted that for her. You didn't see it in "writing" did You ? Warm regards N3RF
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Beau.....Thanks, your advice and info cheered me up greatly.

Beau and n3rf - I'm looking into a Power of Attorney tomorrow. The forms are $5.00 and a notary's fees are $50.00. I've used them before.

Thanks to you both.
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Ugh. At this point in time, it looks like the conservatorship idea is out. The para-legals I talked to say the fees are $700 to complete the 40 page paperwork and $300 for court filing fees. There's no way I can come up with that much money on my mom's fixed income.

I found a notary who would only charge $10 for a Power of Attorney in her office. I asked mom if she would sign it and she replied, "can I give you just a limited power of attorney.?" The catch-22 may be that the nursing won't allow me to take her out tomorrow. I told the nursing staff I wanted to take her to lunch and to the mall for a few hours. In reality, I'd take her to the notary to sign the power of attorney. I have a 11:30am appointment tomorrow with a notary. If by then the nursing home hasn't approved her outing, I'm going to arrange her escape and try to just walk out the door with mom in the wheel chair. Mom's willing to try it.

If they don't stop us, then maybe I'll have Power of Attorney by tomorrow night. If they do stop us, I'll look for a Mobile Notary to come to the hospital and get her to sign it in front of him. I'll try the mobile notary second for two reasons: (1) the nursing home social worker may get wind of it and try to prevent it since she wants control over my mom's affairs. (2) Besides, mom is going stir crazy in there. She needs some time away, if only for a few hours.

Sheesh...I feel like I'm engineering a jail break.
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I just left mom a few minutes ago. I went to remind her I would be there at 11:00am for the "jail break." However, she wasn't in a good mood.

Now she says she "won't" sign the Power of Attorney for me unless I can get her out of the nursing home permamently, as of tomorrow. I explained I can't take her home until the house is debugged. I argued my case for 20 minutes but she was a brick wall.

I'm "hoping" her words last night were symptoms of her Sundown Syndrome and not her actual feelings.

I'll see if she's in a more receptive mood tomorrow morning when I sneak in the rope and the hacksaw.
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MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:21 am I just left mom a few minutes ago. I went to remind her I would be there at 11:00am for the "jail break." However, she wasn't in a good mood.

Now she says she "won't" sign the Power of Attorney for me unless I can get her out of the nursing home permamently, as of tomorrow. I explained I can't take her home until the house is debugged. I argued my case for 20 minutes but she was a brick wall.

I'm "hoping" her words last night were symptoms of her Sundown Syndrome and not her actual feelings.

I'll see if she's in a more receptive mood tomorrow morning when I sneak in the rope and the hacksaw.

Mac,

You will have to see an attorney and get a Guardianship over her through a court. Technically, she cannot sign a power of attorney if she is incompetent. Furthermore, the Department of Welfare can go in and get a Guardianship and it will override any power of attorney that you might get, especially if they can prove that she was incompetent when she signed it.
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Even though no court has declared her incompetent, I'm forgetting the Power of Attorney. I saw her this morning and mom said, "you just want the Power of Attorney to get my house and all my money."

I am seeking conservatorship since a friend has offered to cover the $1,000 fees. Now to find a para-legal to take a credit card for the fees.

Oh my aching head :P
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If the HOUSE has not been condemned by the authorities, then living there is no body's business but Yours and MOMs. Since living in this house for umpteen years and You are still well and the environment inside the HOUSE has not caused and HEALTH problems, no one can say that You cannot live in there as long as You want and as often as You want.

The BUG problem is a RUSE and shoukld and can not cause you from staying out of Your own home. That is all I can say. Take mom and GET HER RELEASED from that PRISON and don't tell anyone where You are going and go live in Your own home and make friends with the Bugs. They can be nice pets...It is all in the MIND.

In AFRIKA bugs makes good food. Even BATS loves the flying type. N3RF
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GROWIN BUGS:

http://www.thefutureschannel.com/docket ... wing_bugs/

Learn about Bugs and You win the battle with the Bugs.

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Adult Protective Services just called me. She said they wanted to release my mom home sometime next week but had to verify if the house is clean and bug free. I'm cleaning all day, everyday so it will be clean by the weekend but I fear I shall not be bug free. But, it will be the best I can manage. It might not pass the APS inspection bug wise, but it should clean wise.
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It sounds like you're making progress. Keep plugging away at the bug situation. Mabye, you'll at least have them down to a small stampede when the time comes. --FLO--
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Friends and I met with the para-legal and started the ball rolling on my conservatorship of my mom. I just need to something from her nursing home physician to get it going.

I was home from the paralegal and began vacumning when the doorbell rang. Standing there were "three" social workers, one of whom was Bill, a friend of mine. They were here to inspect the house. After a curosory 15 minute look they pointed out a few areas I needed to work on but said, overall, they were impressed with my cleaning progress.

I assured them the roach guy was coming out to estimate the cost of de-roaching the place sometime today.

The three social workers said they see no reason why mom can't come home next Wednesday :). 🙏
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The roach guys from AntiMite just left after doing the inspection. They said an industrial-fog is the best treatment considering how extensive my roach problem is. It would cost $250 but I could pay half down now and half after the first next month.

I and the animals would have to be out of the house for six hours only. The dogs can go outside but not sure yet how to deal with the cat. She'd go nuts in my car for six hours and likely drive me nuts too. I'll think about the cat.

AntiMite Pest Control says they'll call me back in a hour to set up the actual day for the fogging.

That's all Folks :)
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MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:33 am I and the animals would have to be out of the house for six hours only. The dogs can go outside but not sure yet how to deal with the cat. She'd go nuts in my car for six hours and likely drive me nuts too. I'll think about the cat.

That's all Folks :)

Put the Dogs in the back yard like you said, but as for the Cat, you can send it to the automatic Cat wash like I posted before.

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MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:33 am The roach guys from AntiMite just left after doing the inspection. They said an industrial-fog is the best treatment considering how extensive my roach problem is. It would cost $250 but I could pay half down now and half after the first next month.

I and the animals would have to be out of the house for six hours only. The dogs can go outside but not sure yet how to deal with the cat. She'd go nuts in my car for six hours and likely drive me nuts too. I'll think about the cat.

AntiMite Pest Control says they'll call me back in a hour to set up the actual day for the fogging.

That's all Folks :)
All this sounds good. I panic when I don't have much money--a lot of panic in my life! Take care of yourself.
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AntiMite Pest Control is coming over tomorrow between 10:00am and noon to start pumping my house with gas. At that time I give them $125.

Things are expensive... Used to be be one could "get gassed" for less than $100 :P
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What kind of GAS is it and HOW do You know if the House - nocks and crannies are GAS FREE ?? N3RF
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n3rf (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:47 am What kind of GAS is it and HOW do You know if the House - nocks and crannies are GAS FREE ?? N3RF

Generally gasses that exterminators use have a short half-live and decompose chemically into inert and/or harmless substances in a matter of a few hours.

This is why they usually do it twice. They look at the pest, look up its life cycle and wait enough time for the next generation to hatch and then have at it again.

Seldom do that have to do it a thrid time.
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