Transitioning at work and in all of my life

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paulault (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:16 pm Ah yes Tucking, well thanks to being diabetic and the meds i have to take from when i had my heart attack in 2001 i have severe ED and MR. unhappy never comes to life and has really shrunk, none of the Ed meds worked either. The boys have shrunk to less than half their original size from the anti-androgens. I can push Mr unhappy inside and put a piece of medical tape over him and it eliminates the slight bulge i have normally, of course that means you have to be shaved down there or in my case all hair has been permanently removed, but most of the time i don't bother. Actual tucking is not an option cause everything is too small, i assume you have a similar issue.

Paula.

Hi Paula,

Your method may work for me. I would need to shave the area. I think this is worth a try. I'm not certain actually tucking things up would work, as you mention.

I have had significant shrinkage, too. I don't mind this at all.

If I am wearing a dress or skirt I don't have any problems. But with slacks on, it's another story. I think I may have medical tape at home so I can try this tomorrow.

Thanks for your help.

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Danya
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Danya,

I do not post as often as I should anymore, but I do read your thread often :)

I am always interested in reading about your journey, both the good and the not so good parts. Each of these experiences is something that will help you grow into a stronger person. I hope that you continue to experience nothing but more of the good things you deserve from life :)
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Hi Danya,

When I was pre-op I found that a nice pair of somewhat tight fitting bikini panties and control top panty hose very effective for tucking away the "unmentionable items" in a girl's life.

Push your testicles up and inside of you, pull "it" up tight between your legs, slide your panties into place and make sure your hosiery fits up tight to your crotch and you should be ready to go. ;)
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Danya,
plix (imported) wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:54 pm I do not post as often as I should anymore, but I do read your thread often :)

I am always interested in reading about your journey, both the good and the not so good parts. Each of these experiences is something that will help you grow into a stronger person. I hope that you continue to experience nothing but more of the good things you deserve from life :)

Hi plix,

It's always very good to hear from you. I was happy to get to know you a bit at last year's Midwest MoM.

As usual, you show a lot of wisdom, sensitivity and kindness. You understand that both the good and not so good experiences are important.

Thanks for you caring words and good wishes.

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Danya
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EricaAnn (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:05 am Hi Danya,

When I was pre-op I found that a nice pair of somewhat tight fitting bikini panties and control top panty hose very effective for tucking away the "unmentionable items" in a girl's life.

Push your testicles up and inside of you, pull "it" up tight between your legs, slide your panties into place and make sure your hosiery fits up tight to your crotch and you should be ready to go. ;)

Hi Erica Ann,

To date, I have not purchased any panties. They didn't seem necessary, but I can see that your idea is a good one. It just so happens I have some bikini underwear that belonged to the person I used to be. It should be tight enough for the job until I get some genuine panties. I'll try this out when I go to the Mall of Doom and Death this afternoon.

I understand the need to mention those multi-purpose, glandular things in a technical description of tucking. 😄, such as yours. Somehow, I am unable to think of them as mine, or refer to them by name.

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Danya
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I have had a number of good days and some very bad days over the last several weeks.

Some of the negative experiences have been

1. Continued and increasing stress at the office.

2. The apparent rejection of me by my best friend. She makes excuses for unilaterally canceling scheduled time together and sees nothing wrong with it. She was also very critical of the way I dress, among other things. She's unhappy with the amount of time it takes me to get ready to leave the house; she does not seem to accept that it takes me longer than her because of all the 'extras' I need to do as a trans woman.

3. Yesterday
Danya (imported) wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:19 am , for the first time since I transitioned,
I felt that I did not belong anywhere. This shocked me and, at first, I had no clue as to what was going on.

I figured it out last night. Spending the emotional energy to work through childhood issues brought up a lot of very painful memories. One of those memories is how alone, and different, I felt as a child.

There are several other things. I just don't have the heart to write them out now.

The good days are generally those when I make it through the work day without stressing out.

If my job were not so difficult now, everything else would bother me less, or at least be easier to deal with. This is just a bad time.

I realized last night that I need to work th
Danya (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:21 am rough my childhood problems alone. Of cou
rse, I have discussed these with my gender therapist and I will continue to do so. No one else can assist with this process and the truth is I know what to do. It's still painful work that stirs up all kinds of memories that are very unpleasant.

The worst of these memories is feeling totally different and apart from everyone else. Now I feel that I have been rejected by my best friend just for finally being who I truly am.

As I have stated before, I look at what I write here as my diary. This is a reflection of what I am feeling tonight. Right now, I don't see a clear way forward and that is very upsetting. There are too many issues for me to overcome to ever achieve my goals.

I want to point out that 'emotional instability' is a frequent side effect of estrogen treatment in male-to-female transsexuals. Just like in puberty! I have the added complication of being bipolar II. I met with my psychiatrist early in the week and I told him what I have been experiencing. I take a mood stabilizer only when I need it and he knows this. Many of his other bipolar patients do not realize when they need medication. Typically, then, they take a mood stabilizer daily. He commented that he and I are operating 'on the edge' with my condition. I know this is true, I can feel it, but I prefer this to feeling sedated all the time.

On the positive side of things, I am taking action to work through all of this. I am not waiting for someone to hand me the solution nor I am moping around the house. I am getting out and seeing people.
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It has now been over ten months since I transitioned. Since then, there have been periods when I have felt down, even depressed for a few days. I tended to panic then, thinking I had forever lost my new happiness. Or worse, that my near life-long major depression was returning. In every case, I got back on track within several days and things proceeded very well.

For more than a few months now, I have had no difficult times as far as my emotions go. I've been thinking about why this should be happening again, beyond the obvious issue of the need to work through my childhood trauma.

The mere fact that I am again experiencing some difficulties, after months of smooth sailing, worries me. I should be beyond this, somehow, or so I think. This weekend, I even started to feel like a failure because I am so weak as to be troubled at this time by childhood problems.

This evening, I have a clearer idea of what's going on in my head. I am reasonably confident my self-evaluation is close to the mark, but I will check it out with my therapist.

Other than the need to work through my childhood abuse, again, there is one major problem that I mentioned in my last post. Work is way too stressful and, although I am trying to do less work after hours, management keeps piling on more responsibility. You see, the project must be completed on time. :( No matter how out of touch with reality the project planners are.

Just last week, I had two new (and major tasks) added to my list. Tomorrow, it will be my job to make it very clear to the project manager that what they are asking is not only unreasonable, it may very well be impossible in the time we've got given everything else that must be done.

Our on-site project manager is new to this particular project (as of a month ago). He holds some type of certification in project management. He works in my department. I thought he had a better idea of how complex this project is. Within days of getting involved, he commented on the difficulty and complexity of the multiple tasks spread over multiple departments.

He doesn't see the picture as well as I supposed. I will help him get a better view. ;) He is reasonable and this should go well. Whether it does or not, though, I refuse to allow my job to eat up my entire life.

I had intended to work more this weekend, but decided against it. I will continue to put in extra hours when that is absolutely necessary, but not when the work is based on impossible expectations.

Then there is the childhood trauma, my history of emotional abuse by my parents. I was emotionally abandoned. I realized one of the reasons I am feeling down is that my friend's rejection, occurring in the midst of my working through my childhood problems, left me feeling that I cannot trust anyone to NOT abandon me.

I know this is not true, but this is the way I felt. I am grieving the loss of a friend who I also feel has abandoned me, just as my parents did. Under normal circumstances, I would not react so strongly.

......... I just received a phone call from Erica Ann..and I no longer feel a need to continue writing in the tone I have used.

Suddenly, my spirits are much higher. She has been through the emotional roller-coaster of this second puberty thing so she totally understands where I'm at.

In regards to my childhood, and having dealt with it in my prior life as a 'man', Erica Ann commented that it is so much easier, with testosterone, to take the attitude "I don't give a damn and be done with it." With estrogen, that kind of approach doesn't work nearly as well. :)

We had a wonderful conversation. I am so thankful Erica Ann is there for me.

I realize that, while I need to accept my emotional response and work through it, I do not want to let these emotions out to the extent that they play havoc with my life. I will get through this.

I will also work my way through, or around, everything else that stands in my way or between me and my goal of GRS. Erica Ann had a terrific idea on this. I will discuss that another time as there is something else I need to do right now. :)
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We are in the middle of our first thunderstorm of the season. It's terrific! After months of cold and snow, the sound of rain falling and thunder is exhilarating.

I had a very good day. I got a lot accomplished on 'the project' at the office. I also made it clear to a coworker that I was already far to busy to help him with related work that isn't essential to the overall completion of the project. He had been very excited about this, but he wanted me to dig up all the information he needed to finish. He wasn't very happy with my response. That's too bad. 😄

Speaking with Erica Ann last night really did turn things around for me. At least until my next episode of teenage angst. :)

I never wrote about something I considered very nice that happened last week. As I was out walking on the skyway, a young man whistled at me. It was that 'wolf whistle' deal that some women find annoying, at best. I might view it that way sometime down the road, too.

Last week, though, I was elated. When I got back to the office, I told two much younger friends. One is a gay man and the other is a straight man. The straight guy was surprised I didn't take the whistle as evidence that 'men are pigs.' Whether men are pigs or not, I like them! I was flattered by the whistle. My gay friend was excited for me. 😄

I am starting to check into new activities so I get out more often. One possibility is volunteering. I'm not interested in serving on a committee, unless it's that very rare type that is interesting. :) I would like to do something where I am helping others, though.

There's also a local photography group. The main problem there is they usually meet early on a week night evening. There are far enough from my office that it is difficult for me to make it on time or even close to it.

I am still making a real effort to reduce the extra hours I put in for my job. I'll always need to work some long hours. That's expected for my position and I am fine with that. It is not alright, though, for me to work excessive hours for several years without let up. I can't cope with that any longer.
Danya (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:19 am Erica Ann had a terrific idea
last night. I have been feeling stalled in my transition progress. She told me to fill out the form and send my down payment for GRS to Marci Bowers. Even if I schedule surgery for two years from today, I'll have something very motivating to keep me going. I'll have a definite goal and time frame to get the money I need.
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Danya (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:19 am Suddenly, my spirits are much higher. She has been through the emotional roller-coaster of this second puberty thing so she totally understands where I'm at.

In regards to my childhood, and having dealt with it in my prior life as a 'man', Erica Ann commented that it is so much easier, with testosterone, to take the attitude "I don't give a damn and be done with it." With estrogen, that kind of approach doesn't work nearly as well. :)

We had a wonderful conversation. I am so thankful Erica Ann is there for me.

I realize that, while I need to accept my emotional response and work through it, I do not want to let these emotions out to the extent that they play havoc with my life. I will get through this.

I will also work my way through, or around, everything else that stands in my way or between me and my goal of GRS. Erica Ann had a terrific idea on this. I will discuss that another time as there is something else I need to do right now. :)

Before I went on HRT (Testosterone replacement) I felt more (MUCH) "emotion" based. Solving problems with "feelings" is more complicated then dealing with hammers, saws, nuts and bolts. Anyway, I think Erica is correct in what she says. And lets face it puberty IS a tough time. I had a little bit of that when I went on HRT but it was probably easier because I had done it once before and it was Testosterone not Estrogen. The "familiar" vs the unfamiliar.

Anyway, at least your not crying at On Star Commercials.... ;)

Keep your eyes on the Brass ring. Be it GRS or work stuff. I "think" that makes everything more doable.

God Bless!

Your Chum - MrT
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Erica Ann had a terrific idea
Danya (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:09 pm last night. I have been feeling stalled in my transition progress. She told me to fill out the form and send my down payment for GRS to Marci Bowers. Even if I schedule surgery for two years from today, I'll have something very motivating to keep me going. I'll have a definite goal and time frame to get the money I need.

I think thats a great idea and I "believe" it sets the price for the procedure so you don't pay 2011 prices if you make a downpayment. You would get 2009 prices. Setting things into motion even if its just a small step I think insures it happens. Every step in the right direction.
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mrt (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:46 am . And lets face it puberty IS a tough time. I had a little bit of that when I went on HRT but it was probably easier because I had done it once before and it was Testosterone not Estrogen. The "familiar" vs the unfamiliar.

Anyway, at least your not crying at On Star Commercials.... ;)

Keep your eyes on the Brass ring. Be it GRS or work stuff. I "think" that makes everything more doable.

God Bless!

Your Chum - MrT

MrT, my friend,

I appreciate your humor and good thoughts. I admit I wasn't fully prepared for the intensity of my emotions with my much desired female puberty. Not of the depth I experienced a few weeks ago.

Going forward, as 'they' like to say at the office (what choice is there, can we go backward in time?? - please explain that to me! 😄) and taking my life offline (another work thing - let's discuss this 'offline' - I do not like anyone presuming that I am so intimately connected with them, while 'online' at a meeting. that we share information as freely as networked computers!)...Back to the subject. Going forward, and offline too, I expect to be better prepared for the next emotional onslaught. I hope! :) If not, there are friends who understand and help me through it, including people here like you.

Who told you that I do not cry at On Star commercials? They may be misinformed. :)

Yes, I need to keep my eyes on the brass ring. I can do that, with effort. I tend to get side-tracked by different interests I want to pursue.

Today turned out to be very good, which surprised me. Not because I haven't had many good days. Rather, I awoke in a very bad mood after a night of strange dreams.

I think I have mentioned before that I dream a lot more now that I am on estrogen. My dreams may be conversations with people I know but have not seen in some time (like you, for example). Other dreams seem to be entire emails I, well, dream up. They are fairly detailed and, like the conversations, are from people I have not seen in awhile. Last night, I almost got out of bed to turn on my computer so I could read one such non-existent note. Then there are other types of dreams, but I'll save those for another time.

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Danya
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Ha! I meant ME! I was the one tearing up when the Onstar lady saved her family (Or whatever it was) Low Testosterone and Mr T = Mr Tina (Sob sister to the stars)....

As to dreams we MUST talk more... Growing up I had so few dreams (That I could remember) that any new one was a call to inform my friends. Rare! My Dr figured out I was missing REM sleep and got me on a transdermal that fixed that. Now I wake up wondering why I'm not tired because I'm running around all night in my dreams doing stuff. I've also had a lot of dreams where I'm reading... I know... WEIRD! Sadly the books don't exist and rarely make any sense.
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mrt (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:49 am I think thats a great idea and I "believe" it sets the price for the procedure so you don't pay 2011 prices if you make a downpayment. You would get 2009 prices. Setting things into motion even if its just a small step I think insures it happens. Every step in the right direction.

I agree Erica's idea is a very good one. I checked Marci Bower's web site, and the deposit is now $500. I think Erica said it was $250 when she paid.

Marci recently announced on her web site that the hospital she uses is raising its fee by $4,000. As a result, she is lowering her own fee a bit to make this easier on patients.

After looking over my finances, I decided I cannot afford $500 until May 1. Before then, to satisfy myself, I will investigate other surgeons. From what I have seen over the last several months, though, I doubt there is anyone I would prefer more than Marci Bowers.

I am working very hard at thinking about the best way to bring in more money. There are a number of things I can do, but I need to focus. In the next several weeks, I will probably start a web site to advertise my services to potential clients. I'm talking about legitimate services, here. 😄 I will likely also register a 'doing business as' name. I may go back to the model I used when I had my own business.

Yesterday, I found out something that made me angry at first. This was a good reaction. I am fine now, but I feel even more determined. Part of this is putting my anger to positive use to achieve my goals.

Another goal is getting out of debt. I owe a large amount of money, mostly on credit cards. This is left over from my unhappy days as that other person whom I will not mention. 😄 I am making very good progress in reducing my debt but it will take me at least 2 1/2 years to be debt-free.

I read today that the credit card companies a doing a dance of sorts. They want to reduce their risk while not alienating certain customers. I concluded several months ago that the old rules of paying off debt may no longer apply. If I pay no more than the minimum amount on lower interest cards to pay off the highest interest card first, the others may decide I am not paying off enough on theirs. They may then increase my interest rate or lower my credit limit (bad for my credit score.) This is just one example.

So I have been doing my own dance with my creditors, since early October, without knowing all the rules. So far, it has mostly worked.

My life is too complicated right now. :( At the same time, somehow I continue to thrive. :) I have a few down times, but I am still amazed at how well I am doing.

Hugs,

Danya
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mrt (imported) wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:40 am Ha! I meant ME! I was the one tearing up when the Onstar lady saved her family (Or whatever it was) Low Testosterone and Mr T = Mr Tina (Sob sister to the stars)....

I have never seen this commercial, but then I seldom turn on the TV, MrT. Now, if I had a nice male friend who wanted to watch the TV I would glady do that as long as we could also snuggle, kiss, hug.....
mrt (imported) wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:40 am As to dreams we MUST talk more... Growing up I had so few dreams (That I could remember) that any new one was a call to inform my friends. Rare! My Dr figured out I was missing REM sleep and got me on a transdermal that fixed that. Now I wake up wondering why I'm not tired because I'm running around all night in my dreams doing stuff. I've also had a lot of dreams where I'm reading... I know... WEIRD! Sadly the books don't exist and rarely make any sense.

I will note that the emails in my dreams do make sense, but they are not nearly book length, either. :)

We have not spoken in awhile. This weekend won't work for that as I am on-call. I cannot have a long conversation knowing that someone from the office may be trying to reach me. If we could keep it to 20 minutes or so, though, I could still speak with you.

Hugs,

Danya
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I was having a very difficult time of it the last half of the weekend. Erica Ann came to the rescue recently for my emotional overload troubles and really helped. I will call her soon.

My problem was of a different sort this weekend, at least initially. Communicating with my friend Tugon, and then simply hearing MrT's voice on a message, helped lift my spirits.

By this evening, I realized for a teenager (emotionally and psychologically, not chronologically), living alone can be a frightening experience. 😄 Sometimes, I need help from folks who are not only adults but adults in their emotional responses. Fortunately, the help of a number of friends (Erica Ann, Tugon, Jesus and others who have helped along the way like Kristoff and supportive posters) is enough of a shove to get my 57 year old brain back in the driver's seat. At least for a time.

Kristoff and MrT were there with me in the weeks before I transitioned, calming my anxiety about giving up the stable, if unfulfilling and unhappy, existence I had know for decades for the uncertainty of being Danya.

Earlier today, I followed some of the advice I have given others when they are feeling down. I got all dressed up, first of all, and that alone was a huge help in relieving my anxiety. I always feel calm when I look like, well, me.

Then I got out of the house and did a few things to interact with people. I spent some money to do this, although I did not charge anything on a credit card. My first stop was brunch. These days, I rarely go out to eat, it's just not something I can afford to do on a regular basis. So brunch was a special treat. I was nearly finished eating when I realized I didn't have my wallet with me! Fortunately, I had a check which they accepted. We emotional teenagers, this one anyway, can be quite irresponsible when it comes to being sure we have everything we need when we go out. :D

I need to make an effort to get out more on the weekends as this is the time when I usually run into emotional upheavals. I'm talking about major insecurities, at times, like "Does anyone like me?". :) I remember my niece asking the same type of question when she went through puberty. She had lots of other emotional hang-ups amazingly similar to what I am now experiencing!

So I need to work things better for weekends. I need to be around adults my own age, at least of a similar chronological age. I don't need to tell them that I'm, at times, the emotional equivalent of a teenager. 😄 When I am with people, I am invariably OK with myself and where I am going.

When I am at the office I am fine, content and happy. I am also assertive and very confident in who I am. On the weekends, when I am alone, there are times when I feel like someone simply must tell me that I am OK, the boys don't all dislike me, I'll grow up to be quite a nice woman, I really am a capable person, my boobs will fill out, I'll make some lucky man a wonderful wife and I'll have wonderful children of my own who will bug me, in their teens, just as much as I am bugging certain people now. :)

I don't seriously expect to find a man, but you never know. I can state with certainty that I will never have children, wonderful or not. :) I am blessed with wonderful friends who know where I'm coming from and are not bothered by my emails and calls.

The longer I am on estrogen, though, and the more feminine I feel it is becoming much clearer how I am a woman in every way I can be, given the limitations of my body right now. I recently read the text of a speech Marci Bowers gave at a meeting of the American Psychological Association. She stated exactly what I am feeling. GRS will allow me to feel whole, although by itself it is not the answer. Knowing beyond a doubt who I am is. She added that this completion is the important aspect about GRS. Sexuality is secondary. She noted that 60% of her patients never experience sex with a man after GRS. For those that do, it's terrific. The main thing her patients value is a feeling of things finally being set right.

Part of my insecurity right now is the uncertainty of when I will have GRS. Erica Ann's suggestion was an excellent one. I had a great day Saturday working on ways to make that happen. What I need to overcome to get this to happen is my tendency to want to go in too many directions. I enjoy doing a number of things that I can make money working at. I have made money doing these before, too. I really need to focus on a single method to bring in more money, though. Initially, I thought I could work on three things, then two. I need to get real about this. One area of concentration, maybe with a minor dabble into something else, is all I can hope for.

I also want results, now - if not sooner. 😄 I've always tended to be this way. In the past, though, I was able to step back and look at things logically. I would get where I wanted by taking a number of steps. Even if it took years to reach a difficult goal such as education. I was very patient then, once I accepted the reality of what was required to reach my goal.

Here again, I need to be reasonable, and also gentle with myself. It will take time to start bringing in extra money, especially these days. I can still get to where my heart is leading me.

This past week, I made an effort to reconnect with friends both at the office and away from work. I've already made plans with two of them for this week.

Friday night I stopped at a local gay bar. Someone who used to chair a committee I was on at church plays the piano there Friday evenings. He did not know about my transition so he had never seen me. He no longer attends the same church. I struck up a conversation with him and we had a wonderful time talking and catching up on each other's life.

Before I transitioned, it was much more difficult for me to get excited about meeting with friends. I enjoyed entertaining guests at home and that was about it. My attempts at anything else were sort of lame. The truth is, people back then did not get nearly as excited about getting together with me as they do now. Since becoming Danya, my real self, I want to be with people more and I am much more enthusiastic. People pick up on this and genuinely show an interest in spending time with me.

There have been people who have left the company who have gone out of their way to keep in touch with me. This never happened before I transitioned. Two of these people write to me and I never met them when they were coworkers. They lived in Florida and California. I still haven't met them.

All this leads me to the logical, if unemotional, conclusion that I am on the right track and things are going very well. I need to be reasonable and not be overly hard on myself. Everything that I seek will happen. I just need to work for it and be patient. Patience is very difficult for this adult going through her first female puberty. I've got to relearn this sometime. Friends will help me.
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Danya (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:20 pm Now, if I had a nice male friend who wanted to watch the TV I would glady do that as long as we could also snuggle, kiss, hug.....
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TV and films are best enjoyed that way. :D
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Thank God we did not get the snow that was predicted! 😄 There was a trace of those crazy crystals on my lawn this morning. That was the extent of the snowfall.

Talking to a number of people in the last two weeks has really helped me, as I already reported. Tonight I had the pleasure of reconnecting with MrT.

While I cannot guarantee that my teenage emotions and psyche won't ever get the better of me again, I know I can call friends for help. These people are remarkably wise. :)

As I continue to emphasize to superiors that I cannot continue the frantic pace of after hours work I have followed for several years, I am gaining confidence that I can bring in money from other (legal!) sources. I am formulating a plan, really a business plan of sorts, on how to do this.

Something else I am doing is getting back to the music I love. The first thing I do when I get home now is practice the piano. I would like to give another recital. The last time I gave a recital, on the pipe organ, was in the mid-1990s. Of my passions, music is at my core. I am assuming that I will give a recital again, I just don't know when. But I am practicing regularly to prepare. Practicing is also important in case I get the opportunity to try out for a staff organist position at a church or synagogue. This is another way I could bring in more income.

After my visit with Erica in Chicago, I realized how much I miss very large cities. I am originally from a large eastern city. I've probably mentioned this before. Another friend here suggested that, when the economy improves, I move to a larger urban area.

I miss the East Coast, as I was reminded when I took a work-related course in the NYC metro area in December of 2007. Chicago or certain parts of the West Coast would be nice, too.

It happens that a member of our upper management team, who is very familiar with my work, is leaving the company. Today was his last day. He was very supportive when I announced I would be transitioning. Today, I sent him an email (from my private account to his) reminding him of my background, education and skills. I mentioned plans for pursuing another career and said I did not consider my age (57) a problem. At least I am not discouraged. Certainly some employers would not be interested because of my age. I asked if he would be a reference, although I knew he would. It's always proper to ask.

Not only did he say he would serve as a reference, he liked the career plans I outlined and offered his strong encouragement. He is not the sort of person to do this unless he believes a plan is very possible. He is pragmatic but also a dreamer of better things for himself and those who work for him.

I was offered the chance for an interview in Manhattan over a year ago for exactly the type of position I would like. I turned it down because of the changes I anticipated in my life. Now I feel like no time is perfect. I will start looking into this now. I redid my resume a little over a year ago. I won't have to change these much at all. For the time being, especially given the economic situation, I will be content with posting my resume on sites specializing in my career area. I may contact one or two 'head hunters, too.

We've had various consultants at the office over the last several years for the big project I am a major contributor to. I have made it a priority to make a good impression on the consultants, in addition to my own management, because they might offer me a position or connect me with something else. If I ask. I am certain their contract with my company states that they cannot try to 'lure away' employees. The consultant with the biggest impact, who is also most familiar with my work, recently wrote to my boss that my work is a major service to the company. This doesn't necessarily translate into a job offer, if I ask. I'm also not sure if it's the type of job I would want. What I am doing, though, is keeping my options open.

Forgive me for rambling on about this. I am glad I can pursue other career options, and try to bring in additional income other ways, too. For months, I did not feel this way at all. I was too busy with my regular job and that was starting to wear on my nerves. So this is good news. Whether or not I am ever offered another job, that I really want, is beside the point. I am getting back to feeling in charge of my life. That's what is critical. All of these things are ways to achieve what I seek, not only GRS but in my whole life. Certainly, I cannnot actively pursue all of the things I've described, but I can do a lot in the time I have.

I have not always felt this way. Being my true self gives me more confidence in every part of my life. Having terrific friends here also is a huge help. Before transitioning, I would never have imagined having so many caring friends. This is a freely given gift from my friends. I am not exaggerating when I say that the people here, on the Archive, have been so accepting of me as to have made a real difference in my life.

I am so happy to have found myself, the real me. Now some of the confidence I have gained with transitioning is carrying over to other areas of my life.
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Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

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I had an amazing evening out with a former coworker. We shared appetizers and a few drinks at a Japanese restaurant not far from my office. When we had finished, I was surprised that nearly 3 hours had passed.

Nearly 10
Danya (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:26 am months have passed since I transitioned.
I have been so busy putting in extra hours for project work that I made no effort to form new friendships. I have been much more outgoing, but I simply had little free time. Earlier in the week I decided that needed to change. So, I invited 'S' out for drinks. She was laid off about 2 months ago.

This was one of the most positive and affirming evenings I have had in a long time. I am not counting the terrific encounters and support I have received from Archive members.

Turns out 'S', who is 35, has a cousin now living in Thailand. Her cousin used to be a man who had worked in the Peace Corps. He had a breakdown of some type and then, through therapy, accepted his transsexualism. It's been about 8 years since she had GRS. Now she lives with a woman partner in her Asian home.

'S' had very insightful observations into who I am, all very positive. I was stunned that she had picked up so much about who I am - the kind of person I am, my real self. I'm not sure how she did this, quite honestly. She continued to work at my office, but on another floor in a different department, for the first 8 months or so of my transition.

Toward the end of our time together, she asked if I had any pets. I told her I do not, but I would not mind having a small dog. She was surprised and told me I had more the 'aura' of a cat person. She explained that I am so calm.

When I thought about her remark I realized she may be right. I may be more of a cat person now. This may sound trivial and maybe it is. I do believe her comment reflects a major change in my personality.

I spent a lot of time learning about what is going on in her life. She opened up quite a lot to me. She told me some things about her childhood, boyfriends, a failed marriage, her career, her personality and life in general.

Our conversation was effortless and I felt totally at ease. We barely knew each other before this evening. Before transitioning, I would have been very guarded on first meeting someone like this, male or female. I still cannot get over how everything flowed so naturally tonight.

We hugged after we left the restaurant. I am certain we will get together again. I will check up on her now and then to see how she is doing. Being unemployed is difficult. I know, I've been there. We agreed we'd like to do more together.
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Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

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I may have been experiencing PMS symptoms today. 😄 Truth is, I was very frustrated about some issues related to the treatment of transgender and transsexual persons. A kind friend put up with my ranting for far too long. Then I spoke with my boss privately about much of the same stuff, although I presented it to him differently, of course.

Occasionally, I feel that I am fighting an uphill battle for my rights, as a TG person, all by myself. This is not really the case and there are people of good will all around who agree with my 'cause'. My rights are simply not an urgent issue for them, however.

Issue 1: A person, who should know better, suggested that 'sexual orientation', as a protected category in a non-discrimination policy, would certainly cover transgender people, too, right???

Isssue 2: Someone else, whom I also would have expected to know better, recently suggested that a company might exclude health insurance coverage for Gender Reassignment Surgery so as not to be viewed as promoting transsexuality. Huh?? Is this similar to irrational fears that homosexuals are recruiting little gay people from the ranks of children? What decent person would condone such a thing?? 🙄 Or is there a fear that, with GRS coverage, all sorts of employees would suddenly decide a new vagina or penis is just what they've been missing? 😄

Issue 3: Not related to my rights at all, but a little unsettling. I rarely feel old, although I am 57. Today, though, a coworker announced he had just turned 27. I thought, Oh My God, I'm 30 years older than him and over twice his age. How did this happen? I used to be the one people told "Oh, you're so young." :) As long a no one starts calling me "Granny", I'll be OK. 😄
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I had scheduled an extra appointment to see my gender therapist today. I wanted to get her feedback on my plan to start looking for a new career, possibly in another part of the country or even outside the US.

I am not trying to start a totally new career, but rather to construct one out of my varied educational and work experience background. There is some demand for what I want to do.

My therapist was very happy for me and encouraged me to pursue my dream. She knows that I am not thinking of leaving my current job before I have a new one. She also said that what I have in mind sounds like a very good thing for me. I discussed the age and mid-transition issues with her and told her some employers would be happy to work with me, others won't. I don't care about the ones who have no interest in what I have to offer solely because of who I am. She affirmed that I am looking at all of this realistically.

Although I may never find another position I want, at least I will have tried. This weekend, I'll continue working on identifying potential employers and checking into other parts of the country/world where I would like to live.
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Danya

It's really good to find you in good spirits

I hope things go well for you

Keep pressing forward toward your goal of fully becoming the person

You feel you are inside

You are doing a good job staying focused do not lose that

You have grown leaps and bounds

You have become a beautiful woman keep up the good work
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Danya (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:11 am I may have been experiencing PMS symptoms today. 😄 Truth is, I was very frustrated about some issues related to the treatment of transgender and transsexual persons. A kind friend put up with my ranting for far too long. Then I spoke with my boss privately about much of the same stuff, although I presented it to him differently, of course.

Occasionally, I feel that I am fighting an uphill battle for my rights, as a TG person, all by myself. This is not really the case and there are people of good will all around who agree with my 'cause'. My rights are simply not an urgent issue for them, however.

Issue 1: A person, who should know better, suggested that 'sexual orientation', as a protected category in a non-discrimination policy, would certainly cover transgender people, too, right???

Isssue 2: Someone else, whom I also would have expected to know better, recently suggested that a company might exclude health insurance coverage for Gender Reassignment Surgery so as not to be viewed as promoting transsexuality. Huh?? Is this similar to irrational fears that homosexuals are recruiting little gay people from the ranks of children? What decent person would condone such a thing?? 🙄 Or is there a fear that, with GRS coverage, all sorts of employees would suddenly decide a new vagina or penis is just what they've been missing? 😄

Issue 3: Not related to my rights at all, but a little unsettling. I rarely feel old, although I am 57. Today, though, a coworker announced he had just turned 27. I thought, Oh My God, I'm 30 years older than him and over twice his age. How did this happen? I used to be the one people told "Oh, you're so young." :) As long a no one starts calling me "Granny", I'll be OK. 😄

Health insurance "morality" drives me nuts. If they were to ever look at the costs of GRS based on how often this is used? It would be NOTHING! Its just not done that often. And who on earth would do this that REALLY didn't need it. Without making everyone who has a fetish interest in having their penis removed angry. Its just not that common a wish. Or at least I think so.... On a different wavelength but still on the "morality" of insurance. I'm quite amazed that they can exclude drugs like Viagra because they are "lifestyle" drugs. Or they limit them to 6 pills a month etc. What "lifestyle" is it that we are talking about. Those that have sex drives and participate in sex? I suppose the Insurance folks believe the only sex done is for procreation. As when I was 8 or 9 and figured my parents had sex only 3 times since there were three of us kids. PLEASE!!!

😠 Doesn't this stupid stuff just make you want to scream?! 😠
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Seems most people think sexual orientation and gender identity are the same thing, i know i have been asked by people and have had to set them straight, the doctor that does my laser hair removal and that lived and worked in Trinadad Colorado, knows Marcy Bowers and worked with many transsexual patients didn't know this but she does now. I'm not going to be ft till next year and my companies EO policy does not say gender identity, only sexual identity, i checked with them and transitioning will not be a problem so i suspect i may not be the first to do so.

Most company health care policies don't pay for much, and i agree paying for SRS or FFS for those transitioning is a mere drop in the bucket. There is so much miss information floating around like people think it's a disease and they might catch it 😄. I'm sure if insurance covered transitioning everyone would want to transition, who wouldn't want to lose their family, job, friends, home etc.

I know how you feel Danya, i turned 57 last Saturday, although i look and feel much younger, i envy those younger than i that are transitioning now, but i know trying to transition back in the 60's or 70's would get you locked up in a mental hospital, the younger ones don't know how good they have it these days.

I'm thinking maybe i should start my own thread on transitioning here even though i have several others.

Paula.
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Danya
kennath7 (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:53 am It's really good to find you in good spirits

I hope things go well for you

Keep pressing forward toward your goal of fully becoming the person

You feel you are inside

You are doing a good job staying focused do not lose that

You have grown leaps and bounds

You have become a beautiful woman keep up the good work

Hi Kennath7,

Thanks for your very kind words and thoughtfulness. You say a number of important things in a few words. I really appreciate your comments "You have grown by leaps and bounds. [quote="kennath7
mrt (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:46 am (imported)" time=1239238380]
You have become a beautiful woman keep up the good work.
"

Hugs,

Danya

Health insurance "morality" drives me nuts. If they were to ever
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look at the costs of GRS based on how often this is used? It would be NOTHING! Its just not done that often.

There are many studies that show that the cost, to companies who include GRS coverage, is minimal. It seems my own employer continues to exclude it, but I have not given up. I will build a better case over the next several months and resubm
mrt (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:46 am it this to management. The tide is changing, slowly, and more companies include this coverage every year.

....As when I was 8 or 9 and figured my parents had sex only 3 ti
mes since there were three of us kids. PLEASE!!!

😠 Doesn't this stupid stuff just make you want to scream?! 😠

MrT,

When I was 8 or 9, I had no idea my parents
paulault (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:55 pm had ever had sex. Things is, I didn't know what sex was. LOL

Yeah, the stupid stuff does make me want to scream. That's exactly what I told the friend I called when I was frustrated by all this.

Hugs,

Danya

Seems most people think sexual orientation and gender identity are the same thing, i know i have been asked by people and have had to set them straight, the doctor that does my laser hair removal and that lived and worked in Trinadad Colorado, knows Marcy Bowers and worked with many transsexual patients didn't know this but she does now. I'm not g
oing to be ft till next year and my companies EO policy does not say gender identity, only sexual identity, i checked with them and transitioning will no
paulault (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:55 pm t be a problem so i suspect i may not b
e the first to do so.

Hi Paula,

I'm very happy to hear that transitioning won't be a problem at your company.
paulault (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:55 pm I am surprised your doctor did not know the difference between sexual orientation and gender identity, since she's worked with a number of trans patients and knows Marci Bowers. I'm glad you set her 'straight'!

Most company health care policies don't pay for much, and i agree paying for SRS or FFS for those transitioning is a mere drop in the bucket. There is so much miss information floating
around like people think it's a disease and they might catch it 😄. I'm sure if insurance covered transitioning everyone would want to transition, who wouldn't want to lose their family, job, friends, home etc.

I need to double-check that GRS is actually still being excluded by my employer. They do not exclude hormones, gender therapy and other non-surgical options related to transitioning. They list a sur
paulault (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:55 pm gery exclusion on the web site, but it is vague and may include GRS while excluding FFS, etc. I need to talk with someone about this, rather than make assumptions based on the web site. That may even be out-dated.

I know how you feel Danya, i turned 57 last Saturday, although i look and feel much younger, i envy
those younger than i that are transitioning now, but i know trying to transition back in the 60's or 70's would get you locked up in a mental hospital, the younger ones don't know how good they have it these days.

You may not have noticed, Paula, that I started a Happy Birthday Paulault thread to wish you a happy birthday. :)

Occasionally I envy the younger folks, too. Mostly, though, I accept that it took m
paulault (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:55 pm e this long to transition for some very good reasons. The most important time is right now. I agree, it's easier
for younger folks, at least in some ways. Being older when you transition has some advantages, too.

I'm thinking maybe i should start my own thread on transitioning here even though i have several others.

Paula.

If you find it therapeutic, or just fun, to write about your experiences, I encourage you to start your own transition thread.

I have never kept a personal journal of my life. For some reason, unless I think there's a chance someone will read what I write, I'm not interested. Having my story here makes it easy to go back and see how far I have come.

Hugs,

Danya
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If I do not write any new posts over the coming weeks, or even months, it is because I am putting a lot of effort into getting where I need to be in my life. I value everyone's responses on this thread and to posts I've made elsewhere on the Archive. There are a number of people here who are friends, including some I have never met. There are also many wonderful, caring people here.

I mention this now only so you know that nothing is wrong if I am not posting. Especially since I have been posting very regularly for quite some time. I will update this thread when I have something major I want to report.

I always answer PMs and emails and welcome those from anyone who wants to contact me.
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